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Air America Phoenix R.I.P

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KeithE

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They signed off today. Announcement <a target="_blank" href=http://www.1010kxxt.com/>here.</a>

My feeling is if there is a demand for it, and money can be made, liberal talk will resurface somewhere. Apparently they offered to buy a couple of stations (unnamed, but my guess is ex-All Comedy Radio KPHX 1480 and sports station KDUS 1060, who's in trouble if Sporting News Radio goes belly-up). We'll see what happens.
 
> They signed off today. Announcement here.

They were bought several months ago by a Christian radio outfit which is the only reason it was booted off. Phoenix is a glut of Christian and brokered radio tape mills.

> My feeling is if there is a demand for it, and money can be
> made, liberal talk will resurface somewhere.

I agree, especially if they did achieve #3 among 25 AM stations in the market as claimed. It will probably be one of the group-owned currently low-rated AM outlets that would flip.
 
> > They signed off today. Announcement here.
>
> They were bought several months ago by a Christian radio
> outfit which is the only reason it was booted off. Phoenix
> is a glut of Christian and brokered radio tape mills.
>
> > My feeling is if there is a demand for it, and money can
> be
> > made, liberal talk will resurface somewhere.
>
> I agree, especially if they did achieve #3 among 25 AM
> stations in the market as claimed. It will probably be one
> of the group-owned currently low-rated AM outlets that would
> flip.

As I said on the Phoenix board, we've seen the last of it for quite some time. The standards station in Vegas that flipped last year close to a 5-share 12+ IIRC. Doesn't mean there's money.

Besides, while religious stations run rampant, they're making money. There's only one brokered station to speak of, and I wouldn't really call in a "tape mill". They do have a local morning show and Savage in PMD, and they're making plenty of money to not justify a flip. Although don't rule out Mike Newcomb from returning to the station.
 
> Besides, while religious stations run rampant, they're
> making money. There's only one brokered station to speak of,
> and I wouldn't really call in a "tape mill". They do have a
> local morning show and Savage in PMD, and they're making
> plenty of money to not justify a flip. Although don't rule
> out Mike Newcomb from returning to the station.

My guess/half-hearted prediction: Clear Channel flips standards KOY to libtalk. It's only a "I wouldn't put money on it" prediction, due to the demographic composition of the market...but you're right, even "high rated" standards stations don't make as much money as other formats.

It may or may not be different in the market that's home to world famous retirement communities. But if 1110 has indeed made some money with libtalk, that might tip the balance.

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> > They signed off today. Announcement here.
>
> They were bought several months ago by a Christian radio
> outfit which is the only reason it was booted off. Phoenix
> is a glut of Christian and brokered radio tape mills.
>
> > My feeling is if there is a demand for it, and money can
> be
> > made, liberal talk will resurface somewhere.
>
> I agree, especially if they did achieve #3 among 25 AM
> stations in the market as claimed. It will probably be one
> of the group-owned currently low-rated AM outlets that would
> flip.
>
They were actually TIED for #3 among AM stations. That's not really saying much, though. The Number One talker in Phoenix is KFYI, the Clear Channel station with Rush, Hannity, and local guys. KTAR is second. They have Paul Harvey, Tony Snow and are the local heritage talker. Air America is waaaaaay behind those two by several shares. They would be tied with the Salem talker and a sports talker; each of which barely show up in the book. And there is a whole slew of FM stations between KTAR and Air America (KXXT).

It's true Air America Phoenix took a station that didn't show up at all and got some ratings and apparently made some money. But preacher tapes are evidently more profitable. That's the biz....
 
> My guess/half-hearted prediction: Clear Channel flips
> standards KOY to libtalk. It's only a "I wouldn't put money
> on it" prediction, due to the demographic composition of the
> market...but you're right, even "high rated" standards
> stations don't make as much money as other formats.
>
> It may or may not be different in the market that's home to
> world famous retirement communities. But if 1110 has indeed
> made some money with libtalk, that might tip the balance.

You're onto something, OA, but in today's world, the older demos that listen to standards have to put up with a certain amount of the tape-mill philosophy that these stations have to resort to in order to remain viable. While the daytime is wall-to-wall-music, they do bury a decent number of infomercials in early mornings and on the weekend.

While I'm still betting against it, I can assure you one thing: if CC opens up a libtalker, they're not going to pay bloggers with no radio experience (albeit small) salaries to do boring shows and take an attitude that "brokered programming is bad" and cancel all the $500-750/hour shows. Independent operators need to use creative revenue strategies to stay relevant, or what you've just seen will keep happening.
 
> It's true Air America Phoenix took a station that didn't
> show up at all and got some ratings and apparently made some
> money. But preacher tapes are evidently more profitable.
> That's the biz....

It shouldn't take a genius to realize that running as fourth-string conservative shows isn't going to attract more than the 1,000 or so conservatives who can't stand Rush. Libtalk was a better option, but they were still operating as a sexier loss leader compared to the weak-signaled sister KXEG, who had always propped up the 1010 stick. With all the religious frequencies, it might be nice to let 15kW 1010 do the paid religion and have KXEG throw in a few brokered foreign language shows for the small populations of Chinese, Vietnamese... maybe a few paid Gospel shows from the days when a local group leased KIDR to program 24/7 gospel, but again, "religion" is where the money is at.
 
http://www.azcentral.com/blogs/index.php?blog=85&p=2369&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#more2369

MacEachern: Air America Phoenix meets reality
03/01/2006 05:53:37


Republic editorial writer and columnist Doug MacEachern returns to the blogosphere with a requiem for liberal Air America Phoenix (KXXT-AM), which he says was done in by market forces.

MacEachern takes on the conspiracy theorists:

Is there a local conspiracy to silence liberals? Oh, I suppose. It's about as possible as Bill Clinton engaging in a conspiracy of murder and extortion to cover up all the millions he never made from Whitewater. Or as possible as a transgenerational Illuminati conspiring to launch world wars. Or a papist conspiracy to cover up the birth of the son of the Son of God. Or whatever. But, you know, I think that in the end the Holy Buck would have transcended it all. I mean, we're talking about the radio business, not the prophecies of Nostradamus.

What I find interesting from the plaintive teeth-gnashing over AA PHX is that its mourners truly believe that someone "took" something from them. As though a law should be passed that affirms, in the spirit of National Public Radio, that Randi Rhodes should have a platform for her mean-spirited vituperation just because Rush Limbaugh does.

And to Air America Phoenix's weepers and wailers:

I don't blame them for denying . . . reality, especially since their own religious radio icon, Air America, was replaced by (of all things) a tool of the infidel.... Christian radio! I DO feel their pain. That really is cruel.

And now for a little balance:

http://tinyurl.com/o6r9e

RESPONSE TO MACEACHERN

I had the honor of being the station voice (promos/liners) for KXXT for the 17 months it was on the air.

Doug MacEachern's blog post is filled with all the typical stereotypes
that conservatives loves to push about progressives.

To say that we detest market forces is pure crap and an insulting cop-out.

Believe me, as a broadcast professional here in the Valley, and as a sworn liberal, I'm well aware of how the broadcasting business works.

In that vein, I would ask you to remember a few things:

-- There is an almost universal dissatisfaction with radio today that
extends not only to the listeners but to inside the industry as well. It is rare to find a truly happy (much less secure) radio broadcaster working
today. In other words- radio, on the whole, has disappointed not only its
audience, but its workers. Don't mistake that dissatisfaction with
detesting "market forces."

-- It needs to be said that the company that bought KXXT has NEVER NOT
OWNED a Christian station. What kind of business sense does it make
to turn KXXT into another one? As of Tuesday at midnight, KXXT became
the 9th(!) Christian station in the market. Also, KXEG was also acquired in the sale. They are ALREADY Christian. How smart is it to have TWO Christian stations under the same roof? Would you buy a donut shop, and then open another one right next door to compete with yourself? Our corporate owner sold us. We (the Phoenix staff) didn't give up. We would never roll over like that. So, in that sense, I would say: YES, Air America Phoenix was TAKEN from us. I'm not arguing their right to do it, but we had no say in the matter. And to turn KXXT Christian, the new company has turned its back on a growing listenership and a pile of potential revenue. How does THAT make sense?

-- Air America Phoenix was making serious inroads in the market- both
in ratings and revenue. We were profitable in less than a year. We
had a loyal audience and a loyal client roster. And both their ranks
were growing- all on a station that didn't spend A SINGLE DIME on outside promotion. Every single new listener we gained was from word of mouth, or accidentally "finding" us. At every event we held, including a packed house at The Venue of Scottsdale for our birthday party in
September, or a Randi Rhodes appearance-both of which I had the
pleasure of hosting, I have never experienced the kind of loyalty and
enthusiasm for a radio station as I did that night- and I have 14 stations
on my resume.

-- It's an invalid argument to compare Air America to individual hosts like Rush/O'Reilly/Hannity/etc. Remember, to be an Air America
affiliate, you have to literally BLOW UP your radio station. It's a
24-hour/7-day a week commitment. What would Rush's numbers have
looked like, and where would he be today if his first station had done
ZERO promotion, and allowed only a 17-month run?

As usual, conservatives have missed the entire point with Air America and
KXXT. There is a growing number of people (notice I didn't say Democrats) that are waking up to what we have become as a country. And they are not liking what they're seeing. This is happening independently of Air America. We gave a voice to that dissatisfaction and frustration. It is far too simplistic to say that we were only about Bush-bashing. It's also wrong to say that we were only about liberalism. We are ALL Americans. And we believe in giving voice to that dissent. It's debate that makes us
STRONGER as a nation.

Conservatives should be mourning Air America Phoenix's departure as
much as liberals and progressives. Without it, on the radio at least, the
American conversation becomes one-sided and weak (yet again) because there's nobody there to argue the other side in the public square. The Valley has lost a voice that challenged the wisdom of popular opinion. How can you take pride in your ideals when they've never been tested?

I would never want to believe anything that wasn't hated somewhere...anywhere.

It's where conviction comes from.

Will Air America return to the Valley at some point in the future?

I pray that it does.

For America's sake.

Doren Fronterhouse
Glendale

> They signed off today. Announcement here.
>
> My feeling is if there is a demand for it, and money can be
> made, liberal talk will resurface somewhere. Apparently
> they offered to buy a couple of stations (unnamed, but my
> guess is ex-All Comedy Radio KPHX 1480 and sports station
> KDUS 1060, who's in trouble if Sporting News Radio goes
> belly-up). We'll see what happens.
>
 
> And now for a little balance:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/o6r9e
>
> RESPONSE TO MACEACHERN
>
> I had the honor of being the station voice (promos/liners)
> for KXXT for the 17 months it was on the air.
>
> Doug MacEachern's blog post is filled with all the typical stereotypes
> that conservatives loves to push about progressives.
>
> To say that we detest market forces is pure crap and an
> insulting cop-out.
>
> Believe me, as a broadcast professional here in the Valley,
> and as a sworn liberal, I'm well aware of how the
> broadcasting business works.
>
> In that vein, I would ask you to remember a few things:
>
> -- There is an almost universal dissatisfaction with radio today that
> extends not only to the listeners but to inside the industry
> as well. It is rare to find a truly happy (much less secure)
> radio broadcaster working today. In other words- radio, on the whole, has disappointed
> not only its audience, but its workers. Don't mistake that dissatisfaction with
> detesting "market forces."
>
> -- It needs to be said that the company that bought KXXT has
> NEVER NOT OWNED a Christian station. What kind of business sense does
> it make to turn KXXT into another one?

Many, if not most, christian radio stations don't put making money at the top of their list of priorities any more than your local minister does when he runs his church. I'm not 100% sure, but I'll bet Salem's secular talk stations prop up their religious stations financially.

> As of Tuesday at midnight,
> KXXT became the 9th(!) Christian station in the market. Also, KXEG was
> also acquired in the sale. They are ALREADY Christian. How
> smart is it to have TWO Christian stations under the same
> roof?

Depends on what their programming is. KXEG 1280 carries a lot of Spanish-language programming as well as English. I'm not aware of what Communicom plans to do differently on 1010 than on 1280, though. Nor do I care. I won't be listening to either one. Besides, religion on 1010 is nothing new. They've been preaching for most of their existence, from about 1971 to 2001, when KXEG moved to 1280 (a frequency that has been religious for almost 100% of its existence, except for 1999-2001).

> Would you buy a donut shop, and then open another one
> right next door to compete with yourself?

If they're selling different kinds of donuts, why not? Besides, religious stations don't exactly "compete."

> Our corporate owner sold us.

No, James Crystal Radio sold the radio stations it owned to Communicom. It had absolutely every right to do that. No one sold Air America Phoenix. If they want to continue as a separate business, they can.

> We (the Phoenix staff) didn't give up. We
> would never roll over like that. So, in that sense, I would
> say: YES, Air America Phoenix was TAKEN from us. I'm not
> arguing their right to do it, but we had no say in the
> matter. And to turn KXXT Christian, the new company has
> turned its back on a growing listenership and a pile of
> potential revenue. How does THAT make sense?

Communicom has every right to do whatever it pleases with KXXT and KXEG. Nobody else has the right to bitch. Like I said, they won't be having me as a listener in either case.

> -- Air America Phoenix was making serious inroads in the market- both
> in ratings and revenue. We were profitable in less than a year. We
> had a loyal audience and a loyal client roster. And both their ranks
> were growing- all on a station that didn't spend A SINGLE
> DIME on outside promotion. Every single new listener we
> gained was from word of mouth, or accidentally "finding" us.

Air America Phoenix may have been profitable, but they were renting your "store" from James Crystal Radio, who decided to sell the "building" they were renting. Happens all the time. If Air America Phoenix can find a new home, either to buy or rent (LMA or otherwise), then more power to them. So far, nobody wants to sell, or wants more money than Air American Phoenix is willing to pay.

> At every event we held, including a packed house at The
> Venue of Scottsdale for our birthday party in
> September, or a Randi Rhodes appearance-both of which I had the
> pleasure of hosting, I have never experienced the kind of loyalty and
> enthusiasm for a radio station as I did that night- and I have 14 stations
> on my resume.

And I hope she finds other broadcasting work in Phoenix. She and the others found themselves out of work because they have noplace to broadcast from. That's unfortunate but it does happen.

> -- It's an invalid argument to compare Air America to
> individual hosts like Rush/O'Reilly/Hannity/etc. Remember,
> to be an Air America affiliate, you have to literally BLOW UP your radio station.
> It's a 24-hour/7-day a week commitment. What would Rush's numbers
> have looked like, and where would he be today if his first
> station had done ZERO promotion, and allowed only a 17-month run?

Huh? Then why did KXXT go local (Mike Newcomb, Charles Goyette) during some dayparts instead of running AAR network fare 24/7?

> As usual, conservatives have missed the entire point with Air America and
> KXXT. There is a growing number of people (notice I didn't
> say Democrats) that are waking up to what we have become as
> a country. And they are not liking what they're seeing. This
> is happening independently of Air America. We gave a voice
> to that dissatisfaction and frustration. It is far too
> simplistic to say that we were only about Bush-bashing. It's
> also wrong to say that we were only about liberalism. We are
> ALL Americans. And we believe in giving voice to that
> dissent. It's debate that makes us STRONGER as a nation.

Any comment to this will probably get this whole thread moved to the Off The Air Board or deleted completely.

> Conservatives should be mourning Air America Phoenix's departure as
> much as liberals and progressives. Without it, on the radio at least, the
> American conversation becomes one-sided and weak (yet again)
> because there's nobody there to argue the other side in the
> public square. The Valley has lost a voice that challenged
> the wisdom of popular opinion. How can you take pride in
> your ideals when they've never been tested?

If they can find another station willing to sign them, then they can broadcast to their heart's content. There are plenty of AM stations in Phoenix that aren't doing well (read: All of them not owned by Clear Channel or Bonneville). If Air America Phoenix can come up with enough dough, then they'll have a new home. They haven't been able to do that yet.
 
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