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Air America

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1560 KILE will drop it's Punjabi music and other ethnic programming Sept. 1 or so for Air America. It is about time. They will have a decent 50k signal during the day and that of a bad jazz station at night not getting north of Bellaire.
 
What is your source for this post? If Air America were going to be in Houston in Sepbember on a 50kW AM, I'm certain they would be talking about it on the air and I haven't heard a single mention. It would be great to have them on a high powered station here but I think they would be making some kind of splash if it were true. Also, I doubt Air America would be buying the time (which is the only way to get on the air at a time brokered station like KILE) since their (Air America's) experience with time brokering has not been a good one (remember the Multicultural Broadcasting debacle?). Are they buying KILE? Is KILE for sale now that the 50 kW is nearly on the air? What would a 50kW high dial position AM in Houston be worth these days?

Which reminds me, I need to check into the current state of construction at the new site down south. Last time I looked, the six tower array was in the air and pretty impressive (very tall towers for 1560 kHz). KILE's CP runs out soon and those boys had better be pickin' 'em up and layin' 'em down if they're going to be finished in time to meet the deadline.
 
Why "Air America: won't work in Houston

I've heard about "Air America" and I've something about it being on KILE. I don't know how much of it's just here-say or how much is concrete fact. But I will say this much: While I think it or a format like it should be in Houston, I have very serious doubts about it's commercial viability.

The reasons are too many to name, but it doesn't stand a prayer of a chance. For starters, it's Liberal radio. Liberal radio, though very much needed to balance the conservative toxicity currently corrupting the Houston airwaves, simply doesn't work. It just doesn't fly. It will never find an audience here.
Liberal radio rarely works anywhere and hasn't worked in previous incarnations-before "Air America". Not even when Bill and Hillary were in power.

Why? Well, I'm Liberal and here's the reality--as I see it. It seems to me that Liberal radio listeners are very different from their Conservative counterparts. For some reason, Conservatives like listening to shows and show hosts who share their political points of view. But it seems Liberals are the exact opposite. They'd rather listen to conservative talk in order call in with counter points as opposed to a show that constantly espouses their own views. I know I would. I used to love to listen to Rush just to get angry and call in.

I know I speak for many when I say Liberals like good arguments and while I applaud us for our spunk and spirit, it makes for lousy radio without our input. Conservatives won't listen to "Air America". So then, who will? Al Franken's family and maybe a handful of others? Maybe, but the numbers won't add up to much and we all know what happens when the numbers aren't there.

I'm sorry to say this, but "Air America" won't work here. Not in Houston and certainly NOT in Houston in the year 2005.

As a Liberal, I hope I'm proven wrong, but I don't think I will be.
 
Re: Why "Air America: won't work in Houston

What makes you think Air America is aimed just at liberals? A significant percentage of the audience for "liberal" talk is conservative just as a significant number of "liberal" listeners listen to so-called conservative talk radio. I listen to Dennis Prager as I know him personally but I don't share his views about 50% of the time. Probably a third of Rush's listeners cringe everytime he opens his mouth. The "appeal thrill" is in the controversy. Being that Houston is the only major market not airing Air America, its arrival here would be interesting...

> I've heard about "Air America" and I've something about it
> being on KILE. I don't know how much of it's just here-say
> or how much is concrete fact. But I will say this much:
> While I think it or a format like it should be in Houston, I
> have very serious doubts about it's commercial viability.
>
> The reasons are too many to name, but it doesn't stand a
> prayer of a chance. For starters, it's Liberal radio.
> Liberal radio, though very much needed to balance the
> conservative toxicity currently corrupting the Houston
> airwaves, simply doesn't work. It just doesn't fly. It
> will never find an audience here.
> Liberal radio rarely works anywhere and hasn't worked in
> previous incarnations-before "Air America". Not even when
> Bill and Hillary were in power.
>
> Why? Well, I'm Liberal and here's the reality--as I see it.
> It seems to me that Liberal radio listeners are very
> different from their Conservative counterparts. For some
> reason, Conservatives like listening to shows and show hosts
> who share their political points of view. But it seems
> Liberals are the exact opposite. They'd rather listen to
> conservative talk in order call in with counter points as
> opposed to a show that constantly espouses their own views.
> I know I would. I used to love to listen to Rush just to
> get angry and call in.
>
> I know I speak for many when I say Liberals like good
> arguments and while I applaud us for our spunk and spirit,
> it makes for lousy radio without our input. Conservatives
> won't listen to "Air America". So then, who will? Al
> Franken's family and maybe a handful of others? Maybe, but
> the numbers won't add up to much and we all know what
> happens when the numbers aren't there.
>
> I'm sorry to say this, but "Air America" won't work here.
> Not in Houston and certainly NOT in Houston in the year
> 2005.
>
> As a Liberal, I hope I'm proven wrong, but I don't think I
> will be.
>
 
Re: Why "Air America: won't work in Houston

> Why? Well, I'm Liberal and here's the reality--as I see it.
> It seems to me that Liberal radio listeners are very
> different from their Conservative counterparts. For some
> reason, Conservatives like listening to shows and show hosts
> who share their political points of view. But it seems
> Liberals are the exact opposite. They'd rather listen to
> conservative talk in order call in with counter points as
> opposed to a show that constantly espouses their own views.
> I know I would. I used to love to listen to Rush just to
> get angry and call in.
> I know I speak for many when I say Liberals like good
> arguments and while I applaud us for our spunk and spirit,
> it makes for lousy radio without our input. Conservatives
> won't listen to "Air America". So then, who will? Al
> Franken's family and maybe a handful of others? Maybe, but
> the numbers won't add up to much and we all know what
> happens when the numbers aren't there.

I don't think I buy the argument that liberal radio won't work for those reasons. Don't forget that, although Rush Limbaugh is the most listened to talk host in America, the second and third most listened to talk programs are Morning Edition and All Things Considered. I would consider both of those programs to be liberal. If Air America fails, it won't be because of the viewpoint; it will be because it was either a substandard quality of programming or was on such poor signals its target audience couldn't find it. Good talk works. Bad talk doesn't. It's as simple as that; everything else is irrelevant.
 
I think it can...

If you look at the diverse population of Houston and the lack of variety in Talk, I think Air America will be moderately successful. It will surely be an improvement in ratings over what KILE is currently doing. KPFT is the only thing that comes close to that format in town. As a moderate, I think it will be nice for Houstonians, who don't get XM or Sirius to hear another point of view. So, I hope this news is true. <P ID="signature">______________
Put Down The Cell Phone, and Use Your Turn Signal!</P>
 
Re: Why "Air America: won't work in Houston

>
> I know I speak for many when I say Liberals like good
> arguments and while I applaud us for our spunk and spirit,
> it makes for lousy radio without our input. Conservatives
> won't listen to "Air America".
>

First, I am a liberal and you don't speak for me, okay! Second, I am not impressed by a business (Air America) that has embezzled 800K from a childrens' non-profit charity just to stay on the air. They are corrupt.


------------------------------------
"Air America – A Liberal Media Business Lesson"

"One thing is certain, when liberals, socialists or other assorted lefties attempt to enter the business world, they have a lot to learn. First, the whole idea of “capitalism” is evil to liberal democrats..."

"So it was quite an interesting fanfare when the liberal media put on such an amazing show for the unveiling of “Air America.” You would think that the liberal’s savior had been born!"

"When Air America did not have the money that it needed to actually run a business, it started short paying, or not paying various vendors."

"After the money dried up, Air America’s former Chairman, Evan Montvel Cohen, decided that taxpayer money was the liberal antidote to solve Air America’s problems. Like all typical liberals, he appears to believe that the end justifies the means. So using his other position with the Boys and Girls club, he decided that no poor inner city boys and girls really needed that money. The liberal machine needed that taxpayer money even more than the poor kids did so $875,000.00 was taken from the Boys and Girls Club CHARITY to be given to Air America."

"What a testament to liberalism, anything goes, even if it means stealing from poor inner city kids. Anything goes as long as it is somehow funded by taxpayers."
------------------------------------

Other surces for liberal media:
ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, and NPR
 
Re: Why "Air America: won't work in Houston

But wasn't that the doings of the FORMER chairman and isn't the current management of Air America working to give that money back or to at least correct that wrong?
I don't have any links handy, but I believe I read that they were, possibly on All Access

> >
> > I know I speak for many when I say Liberals like good
> > arguments and while I applaud us for our spunk and spirit,
>
> > it makes for lousy radio without our input. Conservatives
>
> > won't listen to "Air America".
> >
>
> First, I am a liberal and you don't speak for me, okay!
> Second, I am not impressed by a business (Air America) that
> has embezzled 800K from a childrens' non-profit charity just
> to stay on the air. They are corrupt.
>
>
> ------------------------------------
> "Air America – A Liberal Media Business Lesson"
>
> "One thing is certain, when liberals, socialists or other
> assorted lefties attempt to enter the business world, they
> have a lot to learn. First, the whole idea of “capitalism”
> is evil to liberal democrats..."
>
> "So it was quite an interesting fanfare when the liberal
> media put on such an amazing show for the unveiling of “Air
> America.” You would think that the liberal’s savior had been
> born!"
>
> "When Air America did not have the money that it needed to
> actually run a business, it started short paying, or not
> paying various vendors."
>
> "After the money dried up, Air America’s former Chairman,
> Evan Montvel Cohen, decided that taxpayer money was the
> liberal antidote to solve Air America’s problems. Like all
> typical liberals, he appears to believe that the end
> justifies the means. So using his other position with the
> Boys and Girls club, he decided that no poor inner city boys
> and girls really needed that money. The liberal machine
> needed that taxpayer money even more than the poor kids did
> so $875,000.00 was taken from the Boys and Girls Club
> CHARITY to be given to Air America."
>
> "What a testament to liberalism, anything goes, even if it
> means stealing from poor inner city kids. Anything goes as
> long as it is somehow funded by taxpayers."
> ------------------------------------
>
> Other surces for liberal media:
> ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, and NPR
>
 
Re: Why "Air America: won't work in Houston

> But wasn't that the doings of the FORMER chairman and isn't
> the current management of Air America working to give that
> money back or to at least correct that wrong?
> I don't have any links handy, but I believe I read that they
> were, possibly on All Access
>

It doesn't matter. If a liberal organization is going to preach about the corruption of the conservatives then said organization needs to be free of corruption itself.

I am a liberal and I do not want a corrupt organization speaking for me. We can't have it both ways. If we speak out against corruption then we ourselves cannot be corrupt.

Embezzling money for a childrens' charity and taxpayers money in order to preach against the corruption of the conservatives is not my cup of tea. The ends do not justify the means. As a liberal YOU should be outraged by this.
 
Re: Why "Air America: won't work in Houston

But it's old leadership vs. new leadership and it looks like the new leadership is trying to clean up the mess of the old leadership.

I don't quite see where you are coming from.
No, I am not happy that it happened, but if the guilty party or patries are no longer involved and the current leadership are working to make things right, I'll give them credit for that.
What else can they do?

I'm not going to criticize Germany because Hitler once ran the country.

What makes you so sure I'm liberal?


> > But wasn't that the doings of the FORMER chairman and
> isn't
> > the current management of Air America working to give that
>
> > money back or to at least correct that wrong?
> > I don't have any links handy, but I believe I read that
> they
> > were, possibly on All Access
> >
>
> It doesn't matter. If a liberal organization is going to
> preach about the corruption of the conservatives then said
> organization needs to be free of corruption itself.
>
> I am a liberal and I do not want a corrupt organization
> speaking for me. We can't have it both ways. If we speak
> out against corruption then we ourselves cannot be corrupt.
>
>
> Embezzling money for a childrens' charity and taxpayers
> money in order to preach against the corruption of the
> conservatives is not my cup of tea. The ends do not justify
> the means. As a liberal YOU should be outraged by this.
>
 
Re: Why "Air America: won't work in Houston

I'm not a liberal or a conservative. I hate labels and don't fall prey to the thought process that there are only two sides to an issue or two ways of thinking, etc.

Having said that, I agree one should practice what one preaches and also that you can't hold an orginization reponsible for the actions of an individual that was removed. One would best be served to keep a watchful eye as well.

But my main point I'd like to comment about, as inpartial observer is about the article you quoted. It has a clearly biased tone against liberals. I don't put much stock in any such clearly slanted story.

As for all the media sources you quoted as being liberal, that's simply not true. Just because an orginization reports a story you don't agree with or is against your way of thinking, doesn't make them the enemy. This is the same thinking that gives us only two choices and two views to any subject. The whole "if you're not with us you're against us" approach of each orginization.

People should be allowed to think for themselves and express differing viewpoints without being demonized.

-J.Banks-

> But it's old leadership vs. new leadership and it looks like
> the new leadership is trying to clean up the mess of the old
> leadership.
>
> I don't quite see where you are coming from.
> No, I am not happy that it happened, but if the guilty party
> or patries are no longer involved and the current leadership
> are working to make things right, I'll give them credit for
> that.
> What else can they do?
>
> I'm not going to criticize Germany because Hitler once ran
> the country.
>
> What makes you so sure I'm liberal?
>
>
> > > But wasn't that the doings of the FORMER chairman and
> > isn't
> > > the current management of Air America working to give
> that
> >
> > > money back or to at least correct that wrong?
> > > I don't have any links handy, but I believe I read that
> > they
> > > were, possibly on All Access
> > >
> >
> > It doesn't matter. If a liberal organization is going to
> > preach about the corruption of the conservatives then said
>
> > organization needs to be free of corruption itself.
> >
> > I am a liberal and I do not want a corrupt organization
> > speaking for me. We can't have it both ways. If we speak
>
> > out against corruption then we ourselves cannot be
> corrupt.
> >
> >
> > Embezzling money for a childrens' charity and taxpayers
> > money in order to preach against the corruption of the
> > conservatives is not my cup of tea. The ends do not
> justify
> > the means. As a liberal YOU should be outraged by this.
> >
>
 
Re: Why "Air America: won't work in Houston

Personally, I would welcome them to the fold of talk radio in Houston. It gives us more choices of listenership. What I DO disagree with is calling 'conservative talk' as toxic, which was stated in a previous post in this thread.
 
Re: It just might work...

> As for all the media sources you quoted as being liberal,
> that's simply not true. Just because an orginization
> reports a story you don't agree with or is against your way
> of thinking, doesn't make them the enemy. This is the same
> thinking that gives us only two choices and two views to any
> subject. The whole "if you're not with us you're against
> us" approach of each orginization.

Well said. The whole Rush Limbaugh mentality of Republican=Right that shaped talk radio over the years is reprehensible. If one happens to disagree they can only be one thing: a Liberal, and therefore not "Right." Or as you said,

> People should be allowed to think for themselves and express
> differing viewpoints without being demonized.

I listen to Air America on occasion on their Dallas affiliate and it's refreshing to hear another viewpoint, although I agree with little of what they espouse. I also listen to Rush, Hannity, Savage and even some of the talkers on Salem's conservative network. Gosh, I check out "Morning Edition" and "All Things Considered" on NPR too. You see, I'm neither a full-time liberal or conservative. While I was in high school I was constantly at odds with my father over John Kennedy, but I later supported Barry Goldwater in his presidential bid. I voted for a woman (a Democrat) for Texas governor in the 70's, but I consider Ronald Reagan to be one of our greatest Presidents. Did I agree with everything that Kennedy or Reagan stood for? Of course not. They both employed questionable means to justify the ends.

Considering President Bush's current approval rating which indicates a growing dissatisfaction with both his foreign and domestic policies, I don't think one can rule out the possibility that an Air America affiliate could meet with some success in a supposed "Republican stronghold" like Houston. The market is getting younger and more diverse by the day. Stranger things have happened.
 
Re: Why "Air America: won't work in Houston

One aspect of Air America that's being overlooked: Some national agency commercial copy says "Not to air on Howard Stern, Air America or other controversial programming." Note: that does not specifically include Limbaugh, Hannity or the others. This does not bode well for Air America. There seems to be some concern that the personalities there lean toward "potty mouth" or otherwise may lose control.

Chuck, I just caught up with your recent post...I'll call you Saturday.
 
Re: Why "Air America: won't work in Houston

> I don't think I buy the argument that liberal radio won't
> work for those reasons. Don't forget that, although Rush
> Limbaugh is the most listened to talk host in America, the
> second and third most listened to talk programs are Morning
> Edition and All Things Considered. I would consider both of
> those programs to be liberal. If Air America fails, it
> won't be because of the viewpoint; it will be because it was
> either a substandard quality of programming or was on such
> poor signals its target audience couldn't find it. Good
> talk works. Bad talk doesn't. It's as simple as that;
> everything else is irrelevant.
>

I have a friend that refers to All Things Considered as "All Things Communist". While I believe that NPR slants to the liberal side, there are things on there that I enjoy listening to - just don't use my tax dollars to subsidize radio. I would be very happy to see the government completely out of the broadcasting business - that is, get rid of PBS and NPR and if they are good enough to subsist on TV or radio, someone will sponsor them much as they do now in their non-profit "sponsorships".
 
Re: I think it can...

> If you look at the diverse population of Houston and the
> lack of variety in Talk, I think Air America will be
> moderately successful. It will surely be an improvement in
> ratings over what KILE is currently doing. KPFT is the only
> thing that comes close to that format in town. As a
> moderate, I think it will be nice for Houstonians, who don't
> get XM or Sirius to hear another point of view. So, I hope
> this news is true.
>
In answer to the very first question in this thread, KILE is for sale to the best of my knowledge. KILE had sold to SkyWave Broadcasting of Fort Worth for $7.725M and another $2M if a nighttime Construction Permit was obtained for 5kW or more power back in March of 2004. I understand the deal fell apart and KILE is still trying to get a nighttime license. The latest application from RAFTT is for 100 watts non directional from a CenterPoint Energy tower in most likely the 4300 block of Bissonnet in West U.

I'm surprised that KILE is even bothering to apply for a night license. The are licensed for sunrise to sunset only, but operate from 6am to midnight year round. They just had their license renewed for another eight years, so they are good to go on breaking the rules.

I would like to see Air America come to Houston to add to the variety of Talk programming that is already airing in Houston. I doubt that KILE is going to be the AAR outlet in Houston though. The station is doing very well brokering their time to various groups. There is no record of KILE in the process of being sold, and I doubt that they will find anyone that will pay close to $10M for a 50kW station on 1560kHz with a very tight pattern that will not likely cover metro Houston very well, if at all. The station is legally a daytime station and if the new owners played by the rules, a lot of drive time will be during times the station is off the air, especially when the extended DST begins in 2007.

I do not know if Air America would pay for time on a station, even in Houston at this point. There also are not many stations that even available for AAR. KYND 1520 is a possibility, although their nighttime service is probably a good year plus away and that will only cover a small portion of NW Harris County. KIKK 650 is a doubtful and at 250 watts daytime only not a very good place for AAR to start out in Houston. On the for For Sale is KYST 920 and KGOL 1180, KYST does not have very good coverage of Houston north of the I-10 corridor at night and KGOL does not have any coverage of Houston at night.

KGOL has resurrected an old application from 1987 to increase nights to 3kW from 1kW, but will only benefit those that live north of the Pasadena Freeway and a slighty broader nighttime pattern to include the NE section inside The Loop and out to Crosby.

If Air America had a station lined up for September 1st, I would think there would be something on their website and there is only the info that AAR has added KTXX 103.1 San Antonio to their line-up of stations. If Air America does show up on the Houston dial in a week, I do not know what station it would be broadcasting from, KYST 920 would be my guess at this point, but unlikely.

Air America if it is on a station that can be heard through out Houston, it could do well enough to survive. They likely will not make the ratings or just barely. If they hit the core demo that's all that matters. It would be a curiosity station for a while if nothing else, although another point of view would be welcome in a city that has a good amount of talk stations. My guess is Air America would be KPFT light. Two talk stations yet to make the ratings that I thought would are KXYZ 1320 and KNTH 1070, not that either need to make the ratings to be successful.

Mike O
 
Re: The further adventures of KILE...

> ...KILE is still trying to get a nighttime
> license. The latest application from RAFTT is for 100 watts
> non directional from a CenterPoint Energy tower in most
> likely the 4300 block of Bissonnet in West U.

And they mention on the application, in so many words, that the 100 watts is kind of a temporary fix until they get the OTHER application approved. (100-watt cart pulling a 5000-watt horse, I guess. Think about it.)

> I'm surprised that KILE is even bothering to apply for a
> night license. The are licensed for sunrise to sunset only,
> but operate from 6am to midnight year round. They just had
> their license renewed for another eight years, so they are
> good to go on breaking the rules.

Didn't somebody try to convince us one time that KILE actually does have a post-sunset authority? If that were true it would allow them to operate until sunset in Bakersfield CA, but certainly not 'til midnight Houston time.

CW mentioned that the CP for the new 50,000 watt daytime array is about to run out, but I just noticed that they had another application reinstated (50kW day/5kW night, different site at night). There were also a couple of engineering amendments made to the [amended] application, so we'll see. I'm sure they'll buy ($$$) some time with the FCC if it gets to crunch time for firing up the big rig.
 
Re: The further adventures of KILE...

> > ...KILE is still trying to get a nighttime
> > license. The latest application from RAFTT is for 100 watts
> > non directional from a CenterPoint Energy tower in most
> > likely the 4300 block of Bissonnet in West U.
>
> And they mention on the application, in so many words, that
> the 100 watts is kind of a temporary fix until they get the
> OTHER application approved. (100-watt cart pulling a
> 5000-watt horse, I guess. Think about it.)
>
> > I'm surprised that KILE is even bothering to apply for a
> > night license. The are licensed for sunrise to sunset only,
> > but operate from 6am to midnight year round. They just had
> > their license renewed for another eight years, so they are
> > good to go on breaking the rules.
>
> Didn't somebody try to convince us one time that KILE
> actually does have a post-sunset authority? If that were
> true it would allow them to operate until sunset in
> Bakersfield CA, but certainly not 'til midnight Houston
> time.
>
I made some phone calls and finally got someone named George, I think, that said they had permission to operate until 10pm everynight because they had pre and post sunset authorization. We both know that pre and post auth only buys you two hours of time. If by chance KILE had been given the same privileges as WQEW, the 50kW Radio Disney outlet from NYC, they would have had four hours at night. KILE is strictly a sunrise sunset operation, that has gotten away with a lot and keeps pushing it further. He didn't even know how much power KILE was allowed to run days, except it would be 50kW very soon. This call was probably two years ago. If you go to KILE's web site though, they have programs scheduled from 0600 to 2400!
>
> CW mentioned that the CP for the new 50,000 watt daytime
> array is about to run out, but I just noticed that they had
> another application reinstated (50kW day/5kW night,
> different site at night). There were also a couple of
> engineering amendments made to the [amended] application, so
> we'll see. I'm sure they'll buy ($$$) some time with the
> FCC if it gets to crunch time for firing up the big rig.
>
The permit for KILE to be operating at 50kW daytime runs out on September 28th at 0300. They have four days to proof the pattern and get the FCC's blessing to operate or they lose that CP. The FCC does not toll or extend CP's any more, except under the most extreme case. I doubt that RAFTT has the pull or $$$$ to get an extension like Cumulus pulled off with KIOL. Somehow 1560 better be pumping out 50000 watts in the correct pattern or they will lose that CP. Their filing three or four apps at the last minute is not going to win them any friends or time at the FCC. They did get screwed on a 10kW nighttime app they had though. The FCC turned it down because it sent too much power over Cuba! Cuba has been f'ing with our stations for years and yet the FCC still abides by the NARBA Treaty, the only country that does. Even Canada and Mexico only use the Treaty when it might be to their advantage. Both countries are citing the Treaty as a reason against nighttime IBOC, which I agree with. Canada or more exactly, Toronto is using some of the same frequencies that Buffalo is assigned. The Canadian stations are careful not to send any power into the States, but if they followed the Treaty they are cochannel short by about 230km. I just read in M Street Journal that the town of Haldimand where my late aunt lived, was just authorizied a station on 92.9, less than 60 miles from Buffalo's 92.9 which operates with nearly 100kW. I think the Canadian station is authorized around 30kW, should be a mess. Buffalo's 92.9 is south of the city in the foothills of the Alleghany's with a tall antenna and has a straight water path across Lake Erie to Haldimand. I do like Canada's spacing requirements for Toronto, no spacing distance even for a second adjacent FM in the city. KIOL-KFNC and other rimshot stations would not have the problem getting a signal into Houston that is usable 24/7 they do now.

I should start another poll, now that Mexico is using the X-Band, what month and year will the X-Band be a sea of Spanish-language stations and not a US signal to be heard in the SW US? I say March 06.

Mike O
 
Re: Why "Air America: won't work in Houston

> > I don't think I buy the argument that liberal radio won't
> > work for those reasons. Don't forget that, although Rush
> > Limbaugh is the most listened to talk host in America, the
> > second and third most listened to talk programs are
> Morning
> > Edition and All Things Considered. I would consider both
> of
> > those programs to be liberal. If Air America fails, it
> > won't be because of the viewpoint; it will be because it
> was
> > either a substandard quality of programming or was on such
> > poor signals its target audience couldn't find it. Good
> > talk works. Bad talk doesn't. It's as simple as that;
> > everything else is irrelevant.
> >
>
> I have a friend that refers to All Things Considered as "All
> Things Communist". While I believe that NPR slants to the
> liberal side, there are things on there that I enjoy
> listening to - just don't use my tax dollars to subsidize
> radio. I would be very happy to see the government
> completely out of the broadcasting business - that is, get
> rid of PBS and NPR and if they are good enough to subsist on
> TV or radio, someone will sponsor them much as they do now
> in their non-profit "sponsorships".
>
I agree get the government out of broadcasting, at least NPR and officially let the stations like KUHF, KTSU, KPFT, KSBJ, ect sell air time like any commercial station to stay a float. I rather put up with commercials than beg-a-thons that disrupt the programming and are more annoying than the majority of commercials.

Mike O
 
Agencies in talk radio

Many an agency spot's instructions over the years has specifically named a litany of conservative hosts on whose shows it cannot air: Limbaugh, Liddy,
Dr. Laura, etc. Let's face it, a female-driven retailer like J.C. Penney or a consumer products company like P&G just doesn't want to be on talk radio, period.

> One aspect of Air America that's being overlooked: Some
> national agency commercial copy says "Not to air on Howard
> Stern, Air America or other controversial programming."
> Note: that does not specifically include Limbaugh, Hannity
> or the others. This does not bode well for Air America.
> There seems to be some concern that the personalities there
> lean toward "potty mouth" or otherwise may lose control.
>
> Chuck, I just caught up with your recent post...I'll call
> you Saturday.
>
 
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