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ALA CART by ownership......I'll explain

Has anyone ever thought of doing ala cart by ownership.for example...

I get cable I want to order

locals
NBC/Universal channels-CNBC,MSNBC,USA,SYFY,etc...

FOX-FOX NEWS,FOX BUS News etc

but I'm not a sports fan so I dont ask ABC owned channels ABC family,ESPN's etc.
Your choice by company and a percentage of the subsciptions go to the companies (NBC/universal),FOX,etc......
Anybody get what Im getting at. Programming would be better if they were competing for the cable/sat subsciber and not the cable or sat company.
Thoughts
 
I can see one immediate drawback. If the company in question owns a channel you're not fond of, you're stuck with it - kind of like having to accept ShopNBC along with the other NBC/Universal channels. If you do it on a per-company basis, you're in the same boat as you are now (how many shopping channels does AT&T U-Verse have?).

If you do it on a true a la carte basis, though, you could cherry-pick the channels you want to watch. That could cut the total number of channels you receive down from about 350 or so to about 20 or 25. (That doesn't count any OTA channels you pick up with your antenna - we get 88 in the D/FW market, though most are either unwatchable or air no content). Then if you were charged on an a la carte basis, your monthly TV bill could be much lower. And you could still view movies on demand, and any shows you wanted to watch for which you didn't choose the channels you could probably still watch on Hulu Plus or Netflix.

Of course the cable, fiber, and satellite companies will never go for this because it cuts into their bottom line.
 
I don't understand why people have the misconception that they pay for shopping channels on cable. Shopping channels, along with most religious channels, actually pay the TV provider a fee for carriage, lowering your overall cable bill.

I still think that TRUE Ala Cart won't work with the existing business model, and I don't think it would ever work for any land based delivery such as cable, simply because the cost to keep the network going would outpace revenue gained, and drive up the per channel costs to make up for it.

What I instead think will work is the following. You pay a flat fee for cable connection into your home, say $10 per month. This covers the local access channels, and any free-to-air channels. This would NOT cover any free channels that charge cable companies for carriage, those would cost extra. This is similar to the basic charge that we all pay for gas, electric, water, etc. to pay for the infrastructure and upkeep of the infrastructure. Any cable channel that wants to be carried "free" would be included in this basic access. Then, each channel you want to watch you would need to contact the programming service for. So, if you wanted to watch MTV, you would call Viacom and negotiate pricing for that channel. All billing would be handled by the local cable company, and in exchange for the access to the customer base and taking care of the billing, the cable company would keep a portion of the cost of that channel, say 20%.

Of course, for those that are single, they would see their cable bills go down, at least at first. But, for those with families, or who watch many TV networks, their bills would go up. But, this would eliminate the middle man (pay TV provider) and force the content providers to ask their viewers directly for money. By doing this, you are asking consumers directly what a channel is worth to THEM, and if you constantly raise the price of these channels, you'll see people start to leave for other channels. Of course, this also eliminates the ability to launch new channels (unless the programming provider offers free previews) and would likely kill many of the smaller networks, as they no longer have carriage. It would also place the burden on the programming providers to get the word out about new shows, to try to get people to subscribe to the channels. But, all of a sudden, when AMC or Viacom asks for more money, now they are asking me DIRECTLY if their channels are worth "pennies more per day", and I can make the choice rather than being forced into the decision so I can keep watching the channels I really do enjoy.
 
kenwood101 said:
Has anyone ever thought of doing ala cart by ownership.for example...

Once again, for those who forgot, cable companies don't like ala cart. The content owners are looking to provide their programming direct to consumers by various online streaming systems like Hulu. Soon, you'll probably be able to buy ala cart from content owners direct that way. But if you want the convenience of cable, you have to buy their packages, because that's how they make money. Cable companies sell convenience and service.

Also, if you seriously assess your station usage, you'll find you use five or six companies. Assume they'll each charge $9.95/month on average for their company's content, with ESPN being an extra $15. That means you're writing a bunch of extra checks a month to save $20 a month. Is it really worth it?
 
Wright County Guy said:
Our local CBS station did a report on a-la-carte channels by cost. http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2012/...at-are-we-paying-for-cablesatellite-channels/

What networks cost the cable and satellite companies doesn't necessarily equate too what they'd charge. If "a la carte" were ever offerred, cable and satellite companies would find a way to make the consumer pay as much or more than they do now. They're in business to make revenue, not give it up because some consumers want an alternative.

If you're like me, and watch a total of about 50 channels, "a la carte" would cost me as much as my current cable bill at only $2 per channel per month.

The problem with "a la carte" by ownership is that I would have to pay more for an "owner's" package though I may not want all the channels. Disney/ABC for example. I would want the ABC broadcast network, but I'm not a sports fan, so I wouldn't want ESPN. My kids are grown, so I wouldn't want The Disney Channel.

Same with Viacom - Comedy Central YES, MTV and Nickolodeon, NO.
 
Shaking my head. No. It can't work that way.
Fox does not own all its affiliates. It's a network and supplies programming to its affiliates. It owns about 20 of them.
The other 200 or so stations are owned by other companies and they have to do their own deals for cable carriage.
Therefore, you couldn't do a deal for Fox, Fox News, Fox Business, etc. Same applies to ABC, CBS and NBC.

A la cart will not happen unless mandated by congress. If that happens, most of the current networks on your cable system will cease to exist in short order and the cost of your subscription to others will skyrocket as the networks try to compensate for the reduction in households or become premium channels.

A la cart might have been a good idea years ago when the cable business was starting, but doing it now would not have a positive impact for anyone.
 
tested said:
A la cart will not happen unless mandated by congress.

You're right. And we all know Congress hates big business and big companies like Comcast don't have any influence because they don't have lobbyists or make contributions to individual candidates.

Pigs will fly first.
 
mnradiofan said:
I don't understand why people have the misconception that they pay for shopping channels on cable. Shopping channels, along with most religious channels, actually pay the TV provider a fee for carriage, lowering your overall cable bill.

I still think that TRUE Ala Cart won't work with the existing business model, and I don't think it would ever work for any land based delivery such as cable, simply because the cost to keep the network going would outpace revenue gained, and drive up the per channel costs to make up for it.

What I instead think will work is the following. You pay a flat fee for cable connection into your home, say $10 per month. This covers the local access channels, and any free-to-air channels. This would NOT cover any free channels that charge cable companies for carriage, those would cost extra. This is similar to the basic charge that we all pay for gas, electric, water, etc. to pay for the infrastructure and upkeep of the infrastructure. Any cable channel that wants to be carried "free" would be included in this basic access. Then, each channel you want to watch you would need to contact the programming service for. So, if you wanted to watch MTV, you would call Viacom and negotiate pricing for that channel. All billing would be handled by the local cable company, and in exchange for the access to the customer base and taking care of the billing, the cable company would keep a portion of the cost of that channel, say 20%.

Of course, for those that are single, they would see their cable bills go down, at least at first. But, for those with families, or who watch many TV networks, their bills would go up. But, this would eliminate the middle man (pay TV provider) and force the content providers to ask their viewers directly for money. By doing this, you are asking consumers directly what a channel is worth to THEM, and if you constantly raise the price of these channels, you'll see people start to leave for other channels. Of course, this also eliminates the ability to launch new channels (unless the programming provider offers free previews) and would likely kill many of the smaller networks, as they no longer have carriage. It would also place the burden on the programming providers to get the word out about new shows, to try to get people to subscribe to the channels. But, all of a sudden, when AMC or Viacom asks for more money, now they are asking me DIRECTLY if their channels are worth "pennies more per day", and I can make the choice rather than being forced into the decision so I can keep watching the channels I really do enjoy.

They would have to scramble all of their standard service channels to do this, as they would have to scramble the signal. Otherwise changing the filters on the tap could get very expensive.

Then Paragon San Antonio, had the option of having WGN, and TBS or not, HBO or Showtime. That right there is 3 to 4 different filters to put on the cable tap. (I don't know if I still have a cable filter I found on the sidewalk a couple of years ago, but Time Warner uses those to block Expanded Service.) It used to be before Road Runner Internet, you could pick WGN or TBS, then that choice was gone it was the superstation pack or no superstations TBS or WGN.

And HBO and Showtime moved to digital the same time First Choice PPV became on demand (2002)
 
Lkeller said:
tested said:
A la cart will not happen unless mandated by congress.

You're right. And we all know Congress hates big business and big companies like Comcast don't have any influence because they don't have lobbyists or make contributions to individual candidates.

Pigs will fly first.

I disagree. Ted Turner who owns a part of Time Warner was a die hard Clinton fan, and his wife Jane Fonda.

Ted Turner is huge contributor to the Democratic National Committee.

Lobbyists? YOU BET.

Same goes for Rupert Murdoch before the hacking probe.

A la Carte will only happen when Cable companies start to realize that Cable TV revenues down more than 50 percent, and Internet usage by said carrier is up by 40 percent. Then they will jack up the price for Cable Internet, DSL will follow suit. So you will pay more for the Internet, but they will offer A la carte via Stream.

Isn't Brighthouse doing this already?
I can pick up some Brighthouse stations courtesy of PlayOn via Netgear Digital Navigator.
 
Lkeller said:
And we all know Congress hates big business and big companies like Comcast don't have any influence because they don't have lobbyists or make contributions to individual candidates.

Pigs will fly first.


I sense a tongue is planted firmly in cheek. This is one of those things where one has to choose between two Golliaths: Comcast or Viacom. That's why Congress does what it does best: nothing. That way they still get to eat steak for free.
 
willdav713 said:
ThenThey would have to scramble all of their standard service channels to do this, as they would have to scramble the signal. Otherwise changing the filters on the tap could get very expensive.

I may be wrong but believe most larger cable companies went to addressable boxes long ago. There are no filter taps on these systems.
 
Re: Á LA CARTE by ownership......I'll explain

They did that here in the late '80s, during the very beginning of the Columbia Cable era. For many years the ubiquitous Pioneer cable receivers were the standard if you wanted to get access to the five or six actual *pay* (scrambled) movie channels or pay-per-view and were clumsy with a soldering iron (hint hint), or had a set/VCR that wasn't cable-ready, as many of them still were back then.

(It's á la carte, people. Spell it right. Á la carte.)
 
landtuna said:
willdav713 said:
ThenThey would have to scramble all of their standard service channels to do this, as they would have to scramble the signal. Otherwise changing the filters on the tap could get very expensive.

I may be wrong but believe most larger cable companies went to addressable boxes long ago. There are no filter taps on these systems.

There still is in Austin and San Antonio Time Warner markets. But you would have the filter if you only had Cable High Speed and no Cable TV service, or Basic Package without Standard Service. Everything else needs the box.
 
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