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Alex Langer grabs WFNX call sign

Big Yawn.
What Plot? ???


Fenway1912 said:
The plot thickens

http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/callsign/query.hts

Call Sign WFNX is not available.

A request for WFNX dated 07/30/2012 has been filed
by LANGER BROADCASTING GROUP , LLC.
Our records contain the following address(es) for above requester(s):
REQUESTED CALL SIGN WFNX
LICENSEE/PERMITTEE LANGER BROADCASTING GROUP , LLC
MAILING ADDRESS 94 ST. ROSE STREET

BOSTON STATE MA ZIP 02130-
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Fybush says that the FNX calls will be heading south; the application is for a CP of an AM station in Coral Springs FL. Parking...?
 
Maybe CBS Radio is launching a new all-sports FM station there! :D
 
Does WEEI keep those calls under all ESPN programming? (Fybush wonders if they may carry Sox games
though, as there are some weak spots). For purposes of ratings what happens with same calls on
AM and FM in same market but DIFFERENT programming? I don't know about PPMs (he was a one-eyed,
one-horned, flying purple people meter) or writing down the calls etc. but what happens if
WEEI (AM) ESPN
WEEI-FM Local talk, Sox, C's ? Would there be confusion re: ratings?
In Philly I believe WIP (610/94.1) and WPEN (950/97.5) are 100 per cent simulcast of local sports talk etc.
but what if, say, one AM of either combo went to all-network? Would they have to change calls to
avoid ratings confusion?

(WEBI is AFAIK still available--sounds more than a bit like "WEEI" but is slightly different though the
similarity could pose problems, but with PPM perhaps no worries?)
 
raccoonradio said:
For purposes of ratings what happens with same calls on
AM and FM in same market but DIFFERENT programming?
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The question is answered right here in the Boston market. WBZ-AM and WBZ-FM...same calls (minus the hyphenated band designation), different programming.
 
very true! And I guess 1030 of course says "WBZ (and WBZ HD)" while 98.5 would say "WBZ-FM" (and all the HD stuff). No IDs of course say "WXXX-AM" it would be "WXXX" for the AM...and in a situation where calls
exist only on an FM, then the FM suffix isn't needed right?

WMWM Salem
If there were a WMWM on the AM dial somewhere (and I don't believe there is) I believe it would have to say "WMWM-FM" ...
 
raccoonradio said:
very true! And I guess 1030 of course says "WBZ (and WBZ HD)" while 98.5 would say "WBZ-FM" (and all the HD stuff). No IDs of course say "WXXX-AM" it would be "WXXX" for the AM...and in a situation where calls
exist only on an FM, then the FM suffix isn't needed right?

WMWM Salem
If there were a WMWM on the AM dial somewhere (and I don't believe there is) I believe it would have to say "WMWM-FM" ...
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I am pretty sure you are correct. The "-FM" designation is exclusively used when there is an AM with the same calls. "-AM" is not something that is used.
 
rockcaptain said:
I am pretty sure you are correct. The "-FM" designation is exclusively used when there is an AM with the same calls. "-AM" is not something that is used.
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I have a feeling that that is at least not always the case. I thought FM's had the option of being Wxxx (FM) or Wxxx-FM. And it's even more likely that an FM that had been Wxxx-FM until its sister AM (Wxxx (AM)) changed calls can keep Wxxx-FM if it so chooses. When WQXR (AM) became WQEW, I think (although I am not sure) that WQXR's FM station retained the WQXR-FM calls. If so, despite a change in ownership, a change in frequency, and a facilities downgrade, the FM may still be WQXR-FM. Anyone know if that is so?

There is a sort of rationale for what I believe to be the rule: If an FM keeps the -FM suffix, it may have more control over the use of the base call-sign by an AM. True that, as the "owner" of the base call sign, the station can refuse to allow an AM to use its base call sign, but by choosing to be Wxxx (FM), as opposed to Wxxx-FM, the FM station would seem to have a little more control over the call-sign's use on AM.
 
An FM station (or a TV station) may choose to use the "-FM" or "-TV" suffix, or not. (Provided, of course, that there's not already an un-suffixed AM station using the same base call.)

Whether or not WXXX is "WXXX-FM" or simply "WXXX" has no bearing on whether or not another station can use the same base call on another service. It still requires permission from the incumbent user of the base call.
 
WBZ-FM is branded "98.5, The Sports Hub" .You only hear "WBZ-FM and HD 1 Boston" at the top of the hour ID. Where your hear "WBZ Newsradio 1030" all through the hour.
 
Scott Fybush said:
An FM station (or a TV station) may choose to use the "-FM" or "-TV" suffix, or not.
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I know what Scott's saying here, but for clarity's sake: they can choose to have (or not have) the -FM or -TV suffix added to the legal calls, but they can't ID with them if they're not on the license.

Example: Minneapolis' heritage CHR is licensed as KDWB-FM. There is no KDWB (AM), but the -FM suffix is on the license, so they have to legal ID as "KDWB-FM." It is correct that there's no -AM suffix.
 
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