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Alice 96.1...shake up soon?

J

jaydavenport

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after vieweing the ratings and seeing how much Alice has gone down, an old friend of mine has mentioned that it's time to do something different format wise with alice.

i say leave alice the way it is, and maybe there would be a better way to fix this station, possibly shuffle staff, increase marketing.

any ideas??<P ID="signature">______________
<a target="_blank" href=http://www.jaydavenport.net>Jay Davenport</a>


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> jason... please...stop...
>

skip,

i'm not bashing the station or anyone on air with them, i'm just saying i talked to a friend of mine who says he stopped listening to alice and buying time on alice and thinks that with the rating, something could be done.

maybe oldies?

maybe FM talk?<P ID="signature">______________
<a target="_blank" href=http://www.jaydavenport.net>Jay Davenport</a>


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> > jason... please...stop...
> >
>
> skip,
>
> i'm not bashing the station or anyone on air with them, i'm
> just saying i talked to a friend of mine who says he stopped
> listening to alice and buying time on alice and thinks that
> with the rating, something could be done.
>
> maybe oldies?
>
> maybe FM talk?
>

We can only hope they blow out the current format at Alice and replace it with something relevant and with the potential for a better income stream.

As for Skippy...why the hostility? I have read your post before and they all seem to be confrontational or defensive...are you mad at someone or since I dont know you, is this just your personality?<P ID="signature">______________
Brian</P>
 
thank you b5, i agree, why be hostile skip? i was merely providing an opinion mixed with a question


> We can only hope they blow out the current format at Alice
> and replace it with something relevant and with the
> potential for a better income stream.
>
> As for Skippy...why the hostility? I have read your post
> before and they all seem to be confrontational or
> defensive...are you mad at someone or since I dont know you,
> is this just your personality?
> <P ID="signature">______________
<a target="_blank" href=http://www.jaydavenport.net>Jay Davenport</a>


</P>
 
OK... Jay... don't take this personal 'cause it ain't meant to be.... it's a general statement to everyone who wants to weigh in their opinion about what someone should or shouldn't do with a radio station...

1)People will think a lot more of your "opinion" if it's based with relevant facts... for example... you speak of ratings... do you have access to ratings? Or are you going off of the 12+ numbers released to the mass media? do you have any idea of how this station is tracking based over several books? do you have any idea of who Alice's target audience is? Do you have any idea who Alice's competition is? Keep in mind- NO ONE- programs,sells, or most importantly- BUYS to 12+....I could make a page of relevant questions that you may not have even begun to think of.

2)Did you know that Alice is up 25-30% in revenue this year over last year. Sorry to hear about your friend who stopped spending with Alice... I've looked thru the books and can't figure out who it was...most people find Alice works very well for them...we'd like to have them back- cause ever nickel counts. Give me there name and I'll personally go see them.


3) You're right, we should blow this station up. You want to explain why we should abandon this and go for your idea of FM talk or Progressive Rock? You want to speak to me about how well either of those formats are doing ratings wise or revenue wise in any other market similar to Montomgery.... you might not have access to them...I do... and let me tell you, Wells Fargo is not making extra stops at any of those stations to pick up the extra cash.

4) Why is Skip being Hostile? He's not... he's trying to keep you from continuing to dig your hole deeper by saying things that don't make sense to people on the inside.... he knows that FOX had a good book...it's about where it has been over the last several years- except last Fall when they got screwed. Who knows what the next book will look like? I sure don't and won't pretend to speculate.

Here at Bluewater we're happy as a teenage boy on Prom night...excited about where we are now and looking forward to where we are headed...




> thank you b5, i agree, why be hostile skip? i was merely
> providing an opinion mixed with a question
>
>
> > We can only hope they blow out the current format at Alice
>
> > and replace it with something relevant and with the
> > potential for a better income stream.
> >
> > As for Skippy...why the hostility? I have read your post
> > before and they all seem to be confrontational or
> > defensive...are you mad at someone or since I dont know
> you,
> > is this just your personality?
> >
>
 
Thank you Terry.
Everyone please re-read Terry's post if it didn't sink in the 1st time.
regards,
skipper
 
> Thank you Terry.
> Everyone please re-read Terry's post if it didn't sink in
> the 1st time.
> regards,
> skipper
>

Alice 96.1 isn't going anywhere. They just invested in a new Morning Drive show, and as the saying goes, "as goes mornings, so goes the station". Budell ought to be good for 3-4 shares. Convert 70% of that to other dayparts and you have a very sellable station. BTW, where exactly are the 35-54 MEN supposed to go if they don't like Blink 182 or Brooks and Dunn? Alice just got a hit. Up one book, down another. It ain't about the book. It's about whether the station works for it's clients....and it does.
 
> OK... Jay... don't take this personal 'cause it ain't meant
> to be.... it's a general statement to everyone who wants to
> weigh in their opinion about what someone should or
> shouldn't do with a radio station...
>

i'm sorry if i hurt your feeling by stating my opinion.

> 1)People will think a lot more of your "opinion" if it's
> based with relevant facts... for example... you speak of
> ratings... do you have access to ratings? Or are you going
> off of the 12+ numbers released to the mass media? do you
> have any idea of how this station is tracking based over
> several books? do you have any idea of who Alice's target
> audience is? Do you have any idea who Alice's competition
> is? Keep in mind- NO ONE- programs,sells, or most
> importantly- BUYS to 12+....I could make a page of relevant
> questions that you may not have even begun to think of.
>


yes i have access to an arb book, in fact i have one sitting here in my hand, the drop in numbers for alice i was speaking about reflected the overall number that were posted on radio-andrecords, if that was the 12+ then i retract my post.



> 2)Did you know that Alice is up 25-30% in revenue this year
> over last year. Sorry to hear about your friend who stopped
> spending with Alice... I've looked thru the books and can't
> figure out who it was...most people find Alice works very
> well for them...we'd like to have them back- cause ever
> nickel counts. Give me there name and I'll personally go see
> them.
>

sorry terry, i will not release his name, i value my friendships too much to give out his name here.

>
> 3) You're right, we should blow this station up. You want to
> explain why we should abandon this and go for your idea of
> FM talk or Progressive Rock? You want to speak to me about
> how well either of those formats are doing ratings wise or
> revenue wise in any other market similar to Montomgery....
> you might not have access to them...I do... and let me tell
> you, Wells Fargo is not making extra stops at any of those
> stations to pick up the extra cash.
>

now you were mis-reading me there, i meant that in the since of what has not been done on the 96.1 freq., again that was merely an opinion, but marketing wise maybe you could blow it up and increase marketing.

> 4) Why is Skip being Hostile? He's not... he's trying to
> keep you from continuing to dig your hole deeper by saying
> things that don't make sense to people on the inside.... he
> knows that FOX had a good book...it's about where it has
> been over the last several years- except last Fall when they
> got screwed. Who knows what the next book will look like? I
> sure don't and won't pretend to speculate.
>
here we go again, i have the right to make any opinion i see fit. i'm sure i can find people in other markets who agree with my way of thinking. sure you don't have to like it, but this is who i am. in fact the more you hate me, the more i will just smile and say hello when i see you.

> Here at Bluewater we're happy as a teenage boy on Prom
> night...
excited about where we are now and looking forward
> to where we are headed...
>
>

well again, congrats on the success that you have and are building upon.<P ID="signature">______________
<a target="_blank" href=http://www.jaydavenport.net>Jay Davenport</a>


</P>
 
> Alice 96.1 isn't going anywhere. They just invested in a
> new Morning Drive show, and as the saying goes, "as goes
> mornings, so goes the station". Budell ought to be good for
> 3-4 shares. Convert 70% of that to other dayparts and you
> have a very sellable station. BTW, where exactly are the
> 35-54 MEN supposed to go if they don't like Blink 182 or
> Brooks and Dunn? Alice just got a hit. Up one book, down
> another. It ain't about the book. It's about whether the
> station works for it's clients....and it does.
>


my original post got twisted in every direction, i was merely posting an opinion peice on that if the station wasn't doing well enough what could it go to that has not been tried either on that freq. or in montgomery in general?.<P ID="signature">______________
<a target="_blank" href=http://www.jaydavenport.net>Jay Davenport</a>


</P>
 
> > Alice 96.1 isn't going anywhere. They just invested in a
> > new Morning Drive show, and as the saying goes, "as goes
> > mornings, so goes the station". Budell ought to be good
> for
> > 3-4 shares. Convert 70% of that to other dayparts and you
> > have a very sellable station. BTW, where exactly are the
> > 35-54 MEN supposed to go if they don't like Blink 182 or
> > Brooks and Dunn? Alice just got a hit. Up one book, down
> > another. It ain't about the book. It's about whether the
>
> > station works for it's clients....and it does.
> >
>
>
> my original post got twisted in every direction, i was
> merely posting an opinion peice on that if the station
> wasn't doing well enough what could it go to that has not
> been tried either on that freq. or in montgomery in
> general?.
>
And I believe informed people pointed out to you in a delicate,patient way that the station is doing quite well, so there's no need at changing anything.
 
> > > Alice 96.1 isn't going anywhere. They just invested in
> a
> > > new Morning Drive show, and as the saying goes, "as goes
>
> > > mornings, so goes the station". Budell ought to be good
>
> > for
> > > 3-4 shares. Convert 70% of that to other dayparts and
> you
> > > have a very sellable station. BTW, where exactly are
> the
> > > 35-54 MEN supposed to go if they don't like Blink 182 or
>
> > > Brooks and Dunn? Alice just got a hit. Up one book,
> down
> > > another. It ain't about the book. It's about whether
> the
> >
> > > station works for it's clients....and it does.
> > >
> >
> >
> > my original post got twisted in every direction, i was
> > merely posting an opinion peice on that if the station
> > wasn't doing well enough what could it go to that has not
> > been tried either on that freq. or in montgomery in
> > general?.
> >
> And I believe informed people pointed out to you in a
> delicate,patient way that the station is doing quite well,
> so there's no need at changing anything.
>


actually, no landecker, they assumed i was bashing the station, and they can kiss the fattest part of my rear in that case.

they are jumping on me because i may have a problem with the family of their afternoon host.<P ID="signature">______________
<a target="_blank" href=http://www.jaydavenport.net>Jay Davenport</a>


</P>
 
> > > > Alice 96.1 isn't going anywhere. They just invested
> in
> > a
> > > > new Morning Drive show, and as the saying goes, "as
> goes
> >
> > > > mornings, so goes the station". Budell ought to be
> good
> >
> > > for
> > > > 3-4 shares. Convert 70% of that to other dayparts and
> > you
> > > > have a very sellable station. BTW, where exactly are
> > the
> > > > 35-54 MEN supposed to go if they don't like Blink 182
> or
> >
> > > > Brooks and Dunn? Alice just got a hit. Up one book,
> > down
> > > > another. It ain't about the book. It's about whether
>
> > the
> > >
> > > > station works for it's clients....and it does.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > my original post got twisted in every direction, i was
> > > merely posting an opinion peice on that if the station
> > > wasn't doing well enough what could it go to that has
> not
> > > been tried either on that freq. or in montgomery in
> > > general?.
> > >
> > And I believe informed people pointed out to you in a
> > delicate,patient way that the station is doing quite well,
>
> > so there's no need at changing anything.
> >
>
>
> actually, no landecker, they assumed i was bashing the
> station, and they can kiss the fattest part of my rear in
> that case.
>
> they are jumping on me because i may have a problem with the
> family of their afternoon host.
>



That's right Jay, cause you know, Bluewater doesn't do anything without checking with the Hagler's first. What BS. Actually, truth be told, you get jumped on cause you are an uniformed hack who doesn't know what he's talking about, but can't resist the temptation to spout anyway. At least you're entertaining. BTW, you ever consider that many of the management at CC, CU and Bluewater follow your rantings with interest? I'm sure you're helping your standing in the broadcasting community here in Montgomery.
 
HEY DAVENPORT.TALKED TO MOM AND DAD AND SAID THEY NEVER HEARD OF YOU.WHAT GIVES?> > > > Alice 96.1 isn't going anywhere. They just invested
> in
> > a
> > > > new Morning Drive show, and as the saying goes, "as
> goes
> >
> > > > mornings, so goes the station". Budell ought to be
> good
> >
> > > for
> > > > 3-4 shares. Convert 70% of that to other dayparts and
> > you
> > > > have a very sellable station. BTW, where exactly are
> > the
> > > > 35-54 MEN supposed to go if they don't like Blink 182
> or
> >
> > > > Brooks and Dunn? Alice just got a hit. Up one book,
> > down
> > > > another. It ain't about the book. It's about whether
>
> > the
> > >
> > > > station works for it's clients....and it does.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > my original post got twisted in every direction, i was
> > > merely posting an opinion peice on that if the station
> > > wasn't doing well enough what could it go to that has
> not
> > > been tried either on that freq. or in montgomery in
> > > general?.
> > >
> > And I believe informed people pointed out to you in a
> > delicate,patient way that the station is doing quite well,
>
> > so there's no need at changing anything.
> >
>
>
> actually, no landecker, they assumed i was bashing the
> station, and they can kiss the fattest part of my rear in
> that case.
>
> they are jumping on me because i may have a problem with the
> family of their afternoon host.
>
 
Jason... from your post:


"they are jumping on me because i may have a problem with the
family of their afternoon host."

Joe & his wife don't know who you are??? whas up wit dat..???
 
jay davenport

everybody in montgomery treats jay davenport like the town idiot.
why? because he asks questions? because he is a little eccentric?
who the hell are any of us?????

WE ARE IN MONTGOMERY!

if i was him i'd give EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU THE MIDDLE FINGER AND WALK AWAY--

EVERYBODY IS SO ARROGANT--

LOOK--THERE ARE 2 GOOD JOCKS LEFT IN MONTGOMERY: SKIPPER AND JOEY D--

SORRY-- BUT THE REST ARE "B" TEAMERS--

give him a break-- everytime he makes a statement-- WHY DOES IT ALWAYS TURN INTO JASON BASHING?

I'VE KNOWN THE DUDE 15 YEARS AND BELIEVE ME-- I KNOW THE THINGS HE SAYS-- BUT I SAY THEM TOO--

we all say dumb (BLEEP).

here's to new beginnings-- stop treading on jason.

john garrett
 
Re: jay davenport

> everybody in montgomery treats jay davenport like the town
> idiot.
> why? because he asks questions? because he is a little
> eccentric?
> who the hell are any of us?????
>
> WE ARE IN MONTGOMERY!
>
> if i was him i'd give EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU THE MIDDLE
> FINGER AND WALK AWAY--
>
> EVERYBODY IS SO ARROGANT--
>
> LOOK--THERE ARE 2 GOOD JOCKS LEFT IN MONTGOMERY: SKIPPER AND
> JOEY D--
>
> SORRY-- BUT THE REST ARE "B" TEAMERS--
>
> give him a break-- everytime he makes a statement-- WHY DOES
> IT ALWAYS TURN INTO JASON BASHING?
>
> I'VE KNOWN THE DUDE 15 YEARS AND BELIEVE ME-- I KNOW THE
> THINGS HE SAYS-- BUT I SAY THEM TOO--
>
> we all say dumb (BLEEP).
>
> here's to new beginnings-- stop treading on jason.
>
> john garrett
>
HEY JOHN,DAVENPORTS NOT BASHING YOU! MET THE GUY MABY TWICE.BY THE WAY ITS GREAT TO BE ON THE 'B' TEAM
 
Re: jay davenport

> > everybody in montgomery treats jay davenport like the town
>
> > idiot.
> > why? because he asks questions? because he is a little
> > eccentric?
> > who the hell are any of us?????
> >
> > WE ARE IN MONTGOMERY!
> >
> > if i was him i'd give EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU THE MIDDLE
> > FINGER AND WALK AWAY--
> >
> > EVERYBODY IS SO ARROGANT--
> >
> > LOOK--THERE ARE 2 GOOD JOCKS LEFT IN MONTGOMERY: SKIPPER
> AND
> > JOEY D--
> >
> > SORRY-- BUT THE REST ARE "B" TEAMERS--
> >
> > give him a break-- everytime he makes a statement-- WHY
> DOES
> > IT ALWAYS TURN INTO JASON BASHING?
> >
> > I'VE KNOWN THE DUDE 15 YEARS AND BELIEVE ME-- I KNOW THE
> > THINGS HE SAYS-- BUT I SAY THEM TOO--
> >
> > we all say dumb (BLEEP).
> >
> > here's to new beginnings-- stop treading on jason.
> >
> > john garrett
> >
> HEY JOHN,DAVENPORTS NOT BASHING YOU! MET THE GUY MABY
> TWICE.BY THE WAY ITS GREAT TO BE ON THE 'B' TEAM

Hey John,

At least the "B" teamers are working in the business. Those that can't, teach... right? Or at least criticize.
>
 
Re: jay davenport

> At least the "B" teamers are working in the business. Those
> that can't, teach... right? Or at least criticize.
> >
>

Well, the majority of people in radio today should be teachin'
then. The benefits, job security and time off are much better.
So, I don't think you trashed teacher for his/her comments in
the long run. Sad story that so many egos and superstars have
fallen victim to the $8.00 per hour pick me scam mentality.
Regardless, I'd never wanna be a teacher.
 
Re: jay davenport

> > At least the "B" teamers are working in the business.
> Those
> > that can't, teach... right? Or at least criticize.
> > >
> >
>
> Well, the majority of people in radio today should be
> teachin'
> then. The benefits, job security and time off are much
> better.
> So, I don't think you trashed teacher for his/her comments
> in
> the long run. Sad story that so many egos and superstars
> have
> fallen victim to the $8.00 per hour pick me scam mentality.
> Regardless, I'd never wanna be a teacher.
>


Hey Tibbs,

I didn't want to be a teacher either-- until about 2001-2002. No offense but the job I was working really started to suck.

THEN "THANK ( PICK THE GOD OF YOUR CHOICE )" ...

I GOT FIRED!

And it was being unemployed, that opened my eyes to life without full time radio.

believe me-- I DONT THINK IT'S ABOUT THE ART-- it's about the money. That's cool. I wish I made a ton. But i don't and what I do make-- I WILL MAKE MY OWN WAY.
 
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