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All Access reports (via a Philly paper): Kidd Chris to K-Rock

You can tell there is a certain brightness, an awareness, interaction in their voices when they're on the air.

Maybe you can hear that. I can't hear anything in their voices other than vocal performing skill. I can't tell any difference between a taped bit with a caller over the phone that was made 10 minutes before it was aired or one that was taped a day earlier. I can't tell anything in their phone interaction with callers that indicates it was a local call with no different area codes involved.

Understand, those three do sound good. But I don't hear anything in their voices that wouldn't be there if they were voice-tracked and/or working from another city.

"But since you're on record as seeing no use for a modern disk jockey,"

On the contrary, I'm in favor of modern disc jockeys. I have little use for old-fashioned disc jockeys that are replicas of the DJ's of three or four decades ago.
 
You're not in favor of a modern disk jockey--you're in favor of a modern recorded announcer.

There's a difference.

But, as I mentioned in another thread on this topic elsewhere on this site, we've made our respective positions known. Now, please don't bring live vs. recorded up again. I promise I won't.
 
Radio_Realist said:
Maybe you can hear that. I can't hear anything in their voices other than vocal performing skill. I can't tell any difference between a taped bit with a caller over the phone that was made 10 minutes before it was aired or one that was taped a day earlier. I can't tell anything in their phone interaction with callers that indicates it was a local call with no different area codes involved.
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Sometimes, old boy, I detect a faint scent of sour grapes.

Are you a tad jealous that you didn't have the career in radio of Messrs. Summers, McDowell, and McGann? I thought that you had "moved on," as your pithy signature line indicates.

The main theme of all of your comments on this forum lately is that you wish to see live voices on the radio replaced by recorded ones. It seems you have a mania for redundancies, or as you Yanks say, "layoffs."

Does anyone currently working in broadcasting in Pittsburgh meet with your approval? Or shall they all be sacked and replaced by recorded voices?
 
"Sometimes, old boy, I detect a faint scent of sour grapes."

Sorry, old chap, but you're chasing the wrong fox. If there is anyone working in radio today whose career I would choose over my own, it would be either Rush Limbaugh's or Jim Quinn's.

"The main theme of all of your comments on this forum lately is that you wish to see live voices on the radio replaced by recorded ones."

Once again, old bean, you're dead wrong. I don't wish to see any local Pittsburgh DJ fired. I don't wish to see anyone who is currently live and local replaced with someone on tape. I don't wish to see anyone who is voice tracked in Pittsburgh replaced with someone live and local. For the most part, the live and local DJ's on Pittsburgh sound perfectly adequate, as do those appearing via voice-tracking. My point has never been that voice tracking provides a superior on-air product. It has only been that voice-tracking does not in and of itself provide an inferior product.

Perhaps if you spent less time worrying about how to come across as a fake Brit and actually read what I've written, you'd grasp that.

As Bill Murray so eloquently put it, it just doesn't matter. Between ultra tight playlists and limited break sets and major restrictions on how much a DJ is allowed to say, the suits who run the radio stations have squeezed out 99% of the potential for any DJ to actually make a difference on the air.

If DJ's had some level of control over their own shows, if their air shifts truly were their "shows", then whether a DJ is live and local or on Memorex would matter. But since DJ's no longer have "shows", they simply hold down an airshift, it just doesn't matter.
 
Radio_Realist said:
If DJ's had some level of control over their own shows, if their air shifts truly were their "shows", then whether a DJ is live and local or on Memorex would matter. But since DJ's no longer have "shows", they simply hold down an airshift, it just doesn't matter.
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I agree with you radio realist. DJ's don't have shows anymore, they simply are holding down air shifts. The are limited in allowing to express their ideals, gifts, and talents on air and are restrained to a playlist and a style that is set by the station and her owners.

But comon, you wouldn't mind being Jim Quinn, the burned out dj from the 70s who was fired for sexual harrasement but talks about morals and conserative values every morning? See, everybody forgot that. I could see being Rush, he is good, but personally I would like to be Michael Savage. He is my hero.
 
"you wouldn't mind being Jim Quinn"

I didn't say I'd want to be him, I said I wouldn't mind having his current career.

Also, I'm one of those who regards Quinn's firing as a set-up. And I'm one of those rare individuals who actually believe that people can learn and grow over the years, and that it is possible that people don't have to maintain the exact same attitudes and opinions in their late 50's that they held in their 30's.
 
Radio_Realist said:
Perhaps if you spent less time worrying about how to come across as a fake Brit and actually read what I've written, you'd grasp that.
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I'm just as British as you are a "realist," my friend.

I read what you write. But it's hard to "grasp" anything that slides around so much.

You see, you change your arguments any time you start to lose. I dare say you run a rigged game. You also enjoy selectively quoting people; or, rather, quoting people out of context, and then rebutting the points you wish they'd made, rather than the ones they actually argued.

I could sit here and cite --- just in the past fortnight --- the times you've contradicted yourself. But you'd merely change tactics again.

Frankly, though, it is great fun to wind you up. You're not half as "foxy" as you think you are. And, you lose your temper so easily!
 
"Fired for sexual harassment" is not only incorrect, but an obfuscation of the facts of the incident. I was the PD of B94 when Jim Quinn came to court on the charges related to his on-air comments (although I was not the PD when those comments were made) and I spent lots of time, as did Tex Meyer, dodging pesky reporters -- both at the station and at my home -- who apparently wanted to pillory me and the radio station along with Quinn.

And pillory him they did. His treatment by the media convinced him and many others of the truth of media bias. It changed Quinn from a diehard liberal to a diehard conservative almost overnight. The fact that it coincided with the rise of Rush Limbaugh was another influence. Quinn changed, as a person -- dramatically -- and his on-air approach changed, and they tried to move him over to 100.7. which he declined, and they eventually squeezed him out. I was gone by then, myself.

It may be true that Jim Quinn's comments had an effect on his later departure, but the statement that he was "fired for sexual harassment" is about as true as "Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers." Quinn is a reasonable (and highly intelligent) human being, and I have great respect for him and his talent, not to mention his remarkable ability to re-invent himself.

The comments themselves? I think they were ill-advised. But, what happens in a courtroom isn't always fair or objective, and when a woman accuses a man of being or doing something awful, he is usually presumed guilty until proven innocent. And the standard of proof is pretty damn high in such cases - even more so in the vaunted "court of public opinion".

Today, he probably would have been bounced five minutes after the comments, without even the chance to tell his side of the story.
 
Yeah but he will never be a PIT radio legend like Jack Bogut or Chilly Billy in my book. Maybe you can change your ways, but I don't admire him and I am more of a conserative than he is.
 
ChancellorDukat said:
Yeah but he will never be a PIT radio legend like Jack Bogut or Chilly Billy in my book. Maybe you can change your ways, but I don't admire him and I am more of a conserative than he is.
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You're entitled to your opinion, but Jim Quinn is the only person I have ever seen with 100% name recognition in a research study. (Editorial comment: this was NOT a Clear Channel project, so the folks at Fleet Street can stop worrying that I'm divulging sensitive and/or internal information. I'm quoting something much older.)

Quinn is a Pittsburgh legend for my money. (So are Bogut and Chilly Billy, in different ways, and in different places.)
 
??? Ohh, Kidd Chris' Pgh debut... Great addition!

Mark Madden is fat and ugly and from Western PA and is very employed. I heard the last part of Kidd's Friday show and was impressed. Laughed out loud a bunch, the show was smooth and damned funny. The complete opposite of Opie & Anthony.

I'm looking forward to hearing Chris live this Monday afternoon while lying about for the holiday. Local hosts are best, but entertainment and funnay are a home run from anywhere. :)

Cheers, happy holiday.
 
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