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ALL ACCESS SEZ AAR PAYING FOR PLAY IN LA

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fred flintstone

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In their story on AAR's schedule changes next week, All Access reports the same information Old Akronite has already posted here and on his own blog, and then adds....
And AAR will be paying for a few fewer hours of clearance on CLEAR CHANNEL Talk KTLK-A/LOS ANGELES, which will carry MADDOW 6-8p but is dropping the 8-10p hours from AAR presently occupied by SEDER and has picked up WOR RADIO NETWORK's LIONEL for 10p, moving local host CARY HARRISON to 8-10p.

Note: All Access is an industry news site, not a political blog. This is a non-political source reporting AAR does pay to play. Earlier, Byron Maloney had claimed AAR pays for clearances on Clear Channel's stations in both LA and San Francisco.

The other interesting point here: Post-Malloy, Lionel has picked the progressive talk station in the number two market. Looks like they are not waiting around to see who finally gets Malloy's slot permanently. One station is not a trend, but this station's move could influence other stations.
 
fred flintstone said:
The other interesting point here: Post-Malloy, Lionel has picked the progressive talk station in the number two market. Looks like they are not waiting around to see who finally gets Malloy's slot permanently. One station is not a trend, but this station's move could influence other stations.

Good point! It will be interesting to see how the new AAR line-up fares after the dust settles. I think Werbe will be a relatively good fit in Malloy's spot. They are personal friends and Malloy's base will probably warm up to Werbe. I think the new morning show featuring the Young Turks is a loser. They are light weights and I think that AAR is basically conceding the 6 am - 9 am to Stephanie Miller. That means, they already concede six hours a day to non AAR talkers (Schultz owns the late AM early PM spot). If Lionel makes gains in the late night spot you could see more stations looking outside AAR for talent.
 
Interesting. The only constant factors in the AAR schedule are Franken and Randi (although Randi is often heard on delay). Currently, outside programs are winning the battle for clearances in three of six dayparts (Steph in late morning, Schultz in PM drive and Lionel in late night). Big Ed's performance in signing stations may have as much to do with deal-making as audience response to either show. I think Randi might out-perform Ed in some markets and give him a good run for his money in others (while Ed would continue to be the bigger draw in others). Ironically, Randi delayed wins the battle for clearances in early evening (Peter B. Collins has yet to gain traction).

This leaves morning drive where so far inertia rules. Maron-Reilly, Reilly/Maddow or Bill Press have not taken off. Local shows in morning drive are increasing slowly, but progressive talk (AAR or any other program producer) have yet to offer a competitive entry in morning drive. Progressive talk is weakest in the most important - and most profitable - daypart. Here, the winner is probably Morning Edition. (It appears Ed and Randi are able to do better against ATC than any progressive talker has against Morning Edition. Maybe part of that has to do with what listeners are in a mood for after work.)

But, yes, a good portion of AAR affiliates - reaching a substantial portion of the potential audience - are taking programming from other sources for half the day, and it looks like this could increase. Whatever AAR puts on in late morning and early evening may only reach the turnkey stations (plus XM and the audio stream). The Young Turks face an uphill battle in morning drive. Stronger affiliates in larger markets will look increasingly at adding local shows. Unless the Turks prove a very good draw, they could end up as filler for the turnkey stations, as well.

Which brings us back to the pay to play issue. Will AAR pay stations specifically to clear their weaker entries (especially if Jones is offering incentives)? Will we see a price war for clearances? And will we see additional efforts by AAR or Jones to clear programs on other than progressive talk stations?

One other thought: With Lionel picking up ground on progressive talk stations, and maybe doing well in some new markets, might Buckley start thinking about more progressive talk programming on their "network" - maybe even - dare I say it? - progressive talk on WOR? WOR needs a fix of some kind? It seems to be having trouble finding its way with a hodge-podge mix of advice, lifestyle and 2nd string conservative talk. The schedule is in constant flux. The audience is dying or moving to Florida. Progressive talk, including local shows with a little New York edge, might do well for WOR (and vice versa). And WOR would give progressive talk a good daytime signal in a good portion of the Northeast corridor.
 
The Buckleys are conservative. They program their station idiosyncratically. Putting more progressive talk, or more conservative talk, on WOR, and giving the station a clear direction one way or another, makes too much sense. Thus it won't happen on the Old 710.
 
fred flintstone said:
Note: All Access is an industry news site, not a political blog. This is a non-political source reporting AAR does pay to play. Earlier, Byron Maloney had claimed AAR pays for clearances on Clear Channel's stations in both LA and San Francisco.

And AAR continues to deny this. It's hard to prove unless the station publicly declares otherwise.

The other interesting point here: Post-Malloy, Lionel has picked the progressive talk station in the number two market. Looks like they are not waiting around to see who finally gets Malloy's slot permanently. One station is not a trend, but this station's move could influence other stations.

This is no surprise. I was suggesting Lionel was going to pick up new affiliates as soon as I read Malloy was out the door. Their weeknight lineup on AAR has gotten weaker since Malloy was shown the door.
 
"The other interesting point here: Post-Malloy, Lionel has picked the progressive talk station in the number two market."

LA is the #2 market?
 
Phillip Dampier said:
fred flintstone said:
Note: All Access is an industry news site, not a political blog. This is a non-political source reporting AAR does pay to play. Earlier, Byron Maloney had claimed AAR pays for clearances on Clear Channel's stations in both LA and San Francisco.

And AAR continues to deny this. It's hard to prove unless the station publicly declares otherwise.

Phil, I was thinking of you when I posted this - otherwise I would have made in Lionel in LA the lead (yes, LA is number two in population).

C'mon. You've said you want a credible source on this. Here it is.
Besides, what's the big deal? Pay to play is no disgrace. It's good business. AAR was on the receiving end of pay to play with the Satellite Sisters in New York. If pay to play gets them cleared on a good signal in a large or major market, they should go for it. At some point, if a show takes off they can go to straight barter or even charge stations. But right now, it makes sense. But this would require AAR to think like business people instead of public sector bureaucrats.
 
fred flintstone said:
Phil, I was thinking of you when I posted this - otherwise I would have made in Lionel in LA the lead (yes, LA is number two in population).

C'mon. You've said you want a credible source on this. Here it is.
Besides, what's the big deal? Pay to play is no disgrace. It's good business. AAR was on the receiving end of pay to play with the Satellite Sisters in New York. If pay to play gets them cleared on a good signal in a large or major market, they should go for it. At some point, if a show takes off they can go to straight barter or even charge stations. But right now, it makes sense. But this would require AAR to think like business people instead of public sector bureaucrats.

I personally don't care if they pay or not - I just want the facts to be straight and while All Access may be saying this on the side, AAR is still denying it. As AAR is a private company, they don't have to make their books public. Ultimately if the station itself says it is getting paid, I'd believe that.
 
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