All Access To Discontinue 8/15

[TheBigA]

Would any of this reflect on how labels may view radio in general?

It depends on the format. They aren't investing at all in some. Country still gets a lot of money.

But if you're not releasing a lot of new singles, there's not much to advertise. They don't spend on catalogue.

Joel was CHR editor at R&R, and he built his career on that format. Unfortunately it let him down.

 

[davideduardo]

But if you're not releasing a lot of new singles, there's not much to advertise. They don't spend on catalogue.

Good point to emphasize. Many of the "radio listener but not a radio professional" participants here don't realize that labels never have spent time and money on catalog material. It is all about new releases and "going for adds" and "hits your desk" as preface for "play my record".

Gold is often treated by separate promotion staffs who focus on sales, not airplay. They used to visit record stores to get PoP displays and the like for "Biggest Hits" and collection albums/CDs/Tapes. Heck, some of the promotion was ads in the AARP magazine or Life magazine!

Joel was CHR editor at R&R, and he built his career on that format. Unfortunately it let him down.

Just as MediaBase and BDS killed much of the need for R&R, Gavin, FMQB, and all the rock "tip sheets".

 

[TheBigA]

Just as MediaBase and BDS killed much of the need for R&R, Gavin, FMQB, and all the rock "tip sheets".

Perhaps the other problem with AA was his expenses. I read where he had 25 employees? That's a lot for that kind of thing.

I doubt that RAMP has 25 employees.

 

[nickp]

I can’t imagine the radio business without All Access

 

[SomeRadioGuy]

That was always the case as I recall, same with Radio and Records, I agree, I don't have a lot of interest in the comings and goings at the labels but it is what it is

allaccess was not always as deep into the record/music company minutia as theyd gotten in the last year or two

 

[CTListener]

But if that's where your advertising revenue comes from, you report it.

Perhaps the labels didn't care about all the radio news. So they stopped advertising.

Interesting to me that Billboard, which has a similar business model, has doubled down on music industry news.

As a country fan, Billboard's weekly updates are must-reads for me. Links to them are posted on The Pulse's country message board within hours of their release. They are nicely balanced between radio and music industry coverage.

 

[TheBigA]

As a country fan, Billboard's weekly updates are must-reads for me. Links to them are posted on The Pulse's country message board within hours of their release. They are nicely balanced between radio and music industry coverage.

The fact that Billboard does its own charts (using Mediabase data) makes them fairly indispensable to the labels.

The newsletter business seems to be better than the website business. Perhaps that's what Joel will do once things settle.

 

[JD36108]

See if Joel would just throw more occasional crazy QANON or red meat conspiracy theories into All Access, he'd be as safe as AM radio. Oh..wait....

You never followed his twitter account, have you?

I'm sad to see the site go, but deep down a part of me sees this moment as karma for the way he treated people on twitter.
if you're on a major social media platform with enough followers to put you into "celebrity/influencer" status, then you should probably bite your tongue
and learn to get along with those who disagree with you, show some professionalism and humility!

instead Joel would launch multiple expletives towards myself and others who tried to offer a rebuttal to his political opinions,
going so far as to block people and wish them failure at every turn.

I understand i'm going to start a war with those who place Joel Denver on such a high pedestal, but i'll die on this hill.

 

[lanceventa]

I will miss it too but in the last year or two they went down the rabbit hole of reporting every little minutia of record company news that i bet alot of radio people knew nothing about or cared about.

Their whole business was built around the record labels. The business was promoting songs to stations. They've always covered label news, it just became more noticeable when there was less radio news around it.

The changes Joel alluded to were the labels pivoting promotion to radio to going direct to consumer with promotion to platforms like TikTok and Spotify. You don't need people calling every PD to get a song added to a playlist when there's corporate controlled playlists either...

 

[TheBigA]

You don't need people calling every PD to get a song added to a playlist when there's corporate controlled playlists either...

They don't call every PD. Just the few who are chart reporters. It's been that way since monitored charts.

But I get your point that labels don't need to advertise to all of radio when they only need to reach a small number.

 

[leethalweapon]

allaccess was not always as deep into the record/music company minutia as theyd gotten in the last year or two

Maybe that is/was because the radio industry is shrinking. Staffing isn't what it use to be. There doesn't appear to be a great deal of movement in the industry.

 

[JeremyAndrews]

The music industry and radio are also in a sour position with the music industry wanting royalties from radio airplay. Lots of back and forth.

This was a non issue before, because the labels needed radio. Now they no longer do as much. I see more unrelated ads than I do music related on the site now.

The future for new music is streaming obviously. On the radio, gold formats. New music? Not as much.

None of this helps those that relied on AllAccess for the information and tools they offered obviously. But it's reality for the industry.

 

[101tm]

Also, stuff like voiceovers - the big companies like iHeart, Audacy, and Cumulus have their own people at arms length that they use or do business with. They don’t have to go combing through an online directory.

 

[Mykel the Radio Guy]

I see more unrelated ads than I do music related on the site now.

The last music-related ad I saw was for Pitbull and Lil Jon's Jumpin.

 

[pjc1961]

Choices/alternatives for the future:

The aforementioned, headed up by Lance Venta: RadioInsight

Also aforementioned but misspelled, Fred Deane (formerly of FMQB) : DeaneMediaSolutions.com
--- intro page: Fred Deane Launches Deane Media Solutions
--- Unfortunately the DMS Mediabase Charts have not been updated for several months, some longer than others.

Which leads to this site for selected Mediabase charts and music news: HITS Daily Double
--- click on drop down menu arrow next to "Radio" to access Mediabase charts and adds.

The HitsDailyDouble.com Mediabase charts are more easily readable than
the also aforementioned direct link to the Mediabase Charts: Mediabase - Account Login
--- no account or login needed to see the charts - just scroll down a bit on the home page.
--- more charts available here than on HitsDailyDouble.com

 

[gr8oldies]

The fact that Billboard does its own charts (using Mediabase data) makes them fairly indispensable to the labels.

The newsletter business seems to be better than the website business. Perhaps that's what Joel will do once things settle.

No one truly replaced Tom Taylor's daily newsletter for that matter. Maybe that's an opportunity like you said

 

[genius]

No one truly replaced Tom Taylor's daily newsletter for that matter.

Thank you for mentioning Tom, I really enjoyed his newsletter back in the day on the old Radio-Info site and followed him to All Access later on. I had almost forgotten all about him until you mentioned him.

I haven’t looked at All Access in years myself but this makes me sad to hear. Just lost relevance to me I suppose.

 

[macattack]

You never followed his twitter account, have you?

I'm sad to see the site go, but deep down a part of me sees this moment as karma for the way he treated people on twitter.
if you're on a major social media platform with enough followers to put you into "celebrity/influencer" status, then you should probably bite your tongue
and learn to get along with those who disagree with you, show some professionalism and humility!

instead Joel would launch multiple expletives towards myself and others who tried to offer a rebuttal to his political opinions,
going so far as to block people and wish them failure at every turn.

I understand i'm going to start a war with those who place Joel Denver on such a high pedestal, but i'll die on this hill.

I remember Joel venting his political opinions through the official AllAccess Twitter profile multiple times over the last couple of years. Regardless of which side of the political aisle you are on, this is NOT the smart thing to do.

 

[JD36108]

Choices/alternatives for the future:

The aforementioned, headed up by Lance Venta: RadioInsight

Also aforementioned but misspelled, Fred Deane (formerly of FMQB) : DeaneMediaSolutions.com
--- intro page: Fred Deane Launches Deane Media Solutions
--- Unfortunately the DMS Mediabase Charts have not been updated for several months, some longer than others.

Which leads to this site for selected Mediabase charts and music news: HITS Daily Double
--- click on drop down menu arrow next to "Radio" to access Mediabase charts and adds.

The HitsDailyDouble.com Mediabase charts are more easily readable than
the also aforementioned direct link to the Mediabase Charts: Mediabase - Account Login
--- no account or login needed to see the charts - just scroll down a bit on the home page.
--- more charts available here than on HitsDailyDouble.com

what about alternatives for New Music downloads for each format?

plaympe is hit and miss, spotify or itunes is probably frowned upon?

NewMusicserver.com is picky/clq-ish about who they cater to, which leaves a lot of Low power/stream only stations hung out to dry.

 

[pjc1961]

I don't know of another radio-type affiliated site with downloading available; hopefully someone can advise.

PS More radio news alternatives:

insideradio.com | The Most Trusted News in Radio,
RADIO ONLINE ®
and RAMP - Radio and Music Pros