already listening to NPR....

[evnlee]

"....Here’s the deal with liberal talk radio – it sucks! I don’t know if you’ve ever listened to it…I’m talking like the liberal talk radio, like on Air America ,which is not free market. It’s a bunch of donors getting together and starting, you know, a business. It’s not a business…I don’t know what it is, I don’t know if the listeners are more naturally conservative, and liberals are already listening to NPR, and they’re not looking for something new. All I know is that I’ve tried to listen to it, and I’m not talking about Alan [Colmes], I'm talking about Air America, and I just don’t find it compelling. And obviously other people don’t find it compelling, cause it’s not successful."

democratic strategist Kristen Powers

http://www.changetheparty.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=120&Itemid=90

audio link

http://homepage.mac.com/mkoldys/iblog/C168863457/E20070622105019/index.html

;D

 

[NewsVet]

Her bosses at Fox News must have been pleased.

 

[evnlee]

Her bosses at Fox News must have been pleased.

this is a favorite tactic of 'eat thier own' liberals.....

Apparently, if a liberal goes on Fox News to debate, they are automatically 'sell outs'.

Does anyone find it ironic that this is what Liberal news talk is supposed to be doing, arguing thier points on 'away' turf, yet let Alan Colmes or Powers go on Fox to do it, and they are shunned by the great unwashed!!

So it's okay for all the Republicans to go into enemy territory for thier debates, but heaven forbid any Democrat candidates give Fox News the time of day....Even when they consistently beat the competition in the ratings.

That's pretty sorry!

 

[NewsVet]

Her bosses at Fox News must have been pleased.

this is a favorite tactic of 'eat thier own' liberals.....

Apparently, if a liberal goes on Fox News to debate, they are automatically 'sell outs'.

Does anyone find it ironic that this is what Liberal news talk is supposed to be doing, arguing thier points on 'away' turf, yet let Alan Colmes or Powers go on Fox to do it, and they are shunned by the great unwashed!!

So it's okay for all the Republicans to go into enemy territory for thier debates, but heaven forbid any Democrat candidates give Fox News the time of day....Even when they consistently beat the competition in the ratings.

That's pretty sorry!

Who said anything about "liberals" going or not going on Fox to "debate?" My point was that Powers, who draws a Fox paycheck, was taking the Fox/Republican party line. As for Fox News "consistently beating the competition," the last time I looked its ratings were minuscule compared to those of CBS, NBC, and ABC (all "liberal" networks in your eyes) and trailed the combined ratings of CNN, Headline News, and MSNBC (more "liberal" outlets in your eyes).

 

[evnlee]

Her bosses at Fox News must have been pleased.

this is a favorite tactic of 'eat thier own' liberals.....

Apparently, if a liberal goes on Fox News to debate, they are automatically 'sell outs'.

Does anyone find it ironic that this is what Liberal news talk is supposed to be doing, arguing thier points on 'away' turf, yet let Alan Colmes or Powers go on Fox to do it, and they are shunned by the great unwashed!!

So it's okay for all the Republicans to go into enemy territory for thier debates, but heaven forbid any Democrat candidates give Fox News the time of day....Even when they consistently beat the competition in the ratings.

That's pretty sorry!

Who said anything about "liberals" going or not going on Fox to "debate?" My point was that Powers, who draws a Fox paycheck, was taking the Fox/Republican party line. As for Fox News "consistently beating the competition," the last time I looked its ratings were minuscule compared to those of CBS, NBC, and ABC (all "liberal" networks in your eyes) and trailed the combined ratings of CNN, Headline News, and MSNBC (more "liberal" outlets in your eyes).

You are claiming that since she 'takes a paycheck' from Fox, that she must have 'sold out' her liberal positions...

Yet, you would take as gospel anything offered up by David Brock, a shameless liar by his own admission, and co founder of Media Matters.

At least Fox News has on liberals, even if they dont measure up to your 'standards'... :

 

[NewsVet]

You are claiming that since she 'takes a paycheck' from Fox, that she must have 'sold out' her liberal positions...

Yet, you would take as gospel anything offered up by David Brock, a shameless liar by his own admission, and co founder of Media Matters.

At least Fox News has on liberals, even if they dont measure up to your 'standards'... :

Please stop putting words in my mouth (and putting quotation marks around words I've never said). I never said that Powers had "sold out her liberal positions." I don't know if she has any liberal positions and have never seen or heard her on Fox or anywhere else -- I was merely pointing out that the Powers quotes you used were in line with a Republican/Fox talking point.

And what does David Brock have to do with all this? I've never mentioned him.

And there are plenty of conservatives on the cable channels that you consider "liberal;" including Glenn Beck, Nancy Grace, Joe Scarborough, Lou Dobbs, and Pat Buchanan.

 

[KevinFodor]

In the spirit of being "fair and balanced", you might want to look at this link:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/06/radio_imbalance_is_in_the_tale.html

 

[FilmCritic3K]

Kirsten Powers is a Lieberman lackey through and through.

She's a Democrat like I'm a Karl Rove aide.

 

[Radio_Realist]

I notice that everyone who has checked in on this discussion is nit-picking over who said what, while no one has said a word about what was said.

 

[Radio_Realist]

"....Here’s the deal with liberal talk radio – it sucks! I don’t know if you’ve ever listened to it…I’m talking like the liberal talk radio, like on Air America ,which is not free market. It’s a bunch of donors getting together and starting, you know, a business. It’s not a business…I don’t know what it is, I don’t know if the listeners are more naturally conservative, and liberals are already listening to NPR, and they’re not looking for something new. All I know is that I’ve tried to listen to it, and I’m not talking about Alan [Colmes], I'm talking about Air America, and I just don’t find it compelling. And obviously other people don’t find it compelling, cause it’s not successful."

The thing is, though NPR (and it's public radio service brethern) does have a liberal slant on their news programming, they do not offer news/talk in the classic sense. They have no (or few) standard "host who takes a few phone calls" type programs. They aren't really a competitor to traditional-style liberal-slanted news/talk programming.

I don't dispute that people who have a liberal point of view on politics don't listen to public radio. But rather than proving that public radio is too tough a competitor for liberal news talk to deal with, I think this simply proves that liberal listener want to listen to programming that is different from the traditional news/talk format.

If some syndicator could find the liberal equivalent of Rush Limbaugh, that liberal host would not attract liberals the way that the Rush attracts conservatives. Not enough liberals like the traditional news/talk format for that format to succeed nationally.

To make a comparison, consider news/talk radio as if it were music. The conservative content of hosts like Rush is the lyrics, the basic format of a guy talking and sometimes taking phone calls is the tune. Liberals not only dislike the lyrics, they also dislike the tune. Getting liberal talk hosts to put liberal lyrics to the traditional news/talk tune won't work. Public radio not only has liberal lyrics, it also has a different tune -- and it's a tune that liberals like.

And before someone jumps in with "What about so-and-so who gets good ratings in one or two markets", I'm talking about general nationwide trends, not the occaisional exception.