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Alternative or Country to reappear in NYC

mary said:
I would like NY country again, but classic country more,like wyny was :) music from that time. Alabama, Kenny, George Strait etc
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Mary, I love ya, but this time around that's not going to work. :(

The current based sounds like Taylor Swift, Kenny Chesney, Lady Antebellum, Dierks Bentley, Keith Urban is what's happening for country right now. I do agree that the conditions this time around warrant such a station. But the advertisers are still not convinced.

Seriously, you country fans gotta really get together and fight for this one. Serious.
 
NEWS FLASH (In mono so everyone can hear me)

NYC RADIO DOES NOT CARE ABOUT ALTERNATIVE OR COUNTRY MUSIC. NY could never program an alternative station right because they all think it should be done the same way they do it in LA. Just ask all the LA people that screwed K-Rock up a few years ago lol. As for country...yea they COULD do it. But it would suck because they would play the crap out of core artists (which NY radio LOVES to do) and ultimately make the audience very bored with them. Country listeners are NOT looking for heavy repetition.

When big companies and newer technology devalue the marketplace enough, independents will be able to buy them up and program them properly. Until then...enjoy the drivel they're givin' us.
 
Well, if you look at the ratings for WRFF in Philly, they evidently program it right. They have more variety in the artists they include than RXP did (and I say this as someone who thought it was one of the best stations in NY). I never listened to LA's Krock so I don't know if RXP really fits the description (although our version of Krock wasn't that good either in its last two years). My hope is that CC will buy WFME and give us a version of WRFF.
 
Jersey Maiden said:
My hope is that CC will buy WFME and give us a version of WRFF.
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Clear Channel is at its maximum of 5 FMs in NYC already. They can't buy it.
 
Cumulus should buy 94.7 and turn it into an Alternative Station like WRRV in Middletown/Poughkeepsie or a simulcast of WRRV-FM or just have Music All Morning as the morning show.
Emmis won't
What other companies that are in NYC can? I know CBS & CC can't.
 
XCountry285 said:
Cumulus should buy 94.7 and turn it into an Alternative Station like WRRV in Middletown/Poughkeepsie...
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A station whose billing is off by 50% since 2003 in a market where billing is off about 30% seems to be a terribly poor model.
 
DavidEduardo said:
XCountry285 said:
Cumulus should buy 94.7 and turn it into an Alternative Station like WRRV in Middletown/Poughkeepsie...
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A station whose billing is off by 50% since 2003 in a market where billing is off about 30% seems to be a terribly poor model.
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POW!! Right in the kisser!!
 
Most country and alternative music fans in the NY metro already have Sirius/XM in their cars. The non-drivers use Spotify/Pandora/Slacker. It's too late.
 
TALENTfilter said:
Most country and alternative music fans in the NY metro already have Sirius/XM in their cars. The non-drivers use Spotify/Pandora/Slacker. It's too late.
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1) Does Sirus work in New York with all the tall buildings?

2) Wouldn't Spotify etc users still tune into a radio station for interviews, news (both country music related and regular news), chit-chat, travel, weather etc. Not to mention listening in the bathroom or garage or anywhere where they might not want to take expensive kit but would risk a $10 FM radio.
 
TALENTfilter said:
Most country and alternative music fans in the NY metro already have Sirius/XM in their cars. The non-drivers use Spotify/Pandora/Slacker. It's too late.
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Do you have any data on this? I'm an alternative fan and I'm too cheap to get satellite. Country fans in NJ can get WKMK.
 
I cancelled my Sirius subscription since it sounded like music on AM or listening to an internet stream on an old 28k modem. Unless Sirius has or is going to give more bandwidth for their music channels it does not come close to the sound fidelity of FM.
 
The NYC Market's closest Alternative/Rock/AAA stations are:
107.1 The Peak WXPK White Plains
105.5 DHA Dover WDHA
92.7/96.9 WRRV/WRRB Middletown-Arlington, NY
95.9 The Rat Neptune, NJ
i95.1 CT
NYC's closest Country Stations:
WKMK 106.3/106.5 Jersey Shore
WRWD 107.3 Middletown/Hudson Valley, NY
94.3/97.3 The Wolf Hudson Valley (their signal isn't as strong as WRWD)
 
XCountry285 said:
The NYC Market's closest Alternative/Rock/AAA stations are:
107.1 The Peak WXPK White Plains
105.5 DHA Dover WDHA
92.7/96.9 WRRV/WRRB Middletown-Arlington, NY
95.9 The Rat Neptune, NJ
i95.1 CT
NYC's closest Country Stations:
WKMK 106.3/106.5 Jersey Shore
WRWD 107.3 Middletown/Hudson Valley, NY
94.3/97.3 The Wolf Hudson Valley (their signal isn't as strong as WRWD)
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I-95 is a classic rocker, no?
 
XCountry285 said:
The NYC Market's closest Alternative/Rock/AAA stations are:
107.1 The Peak WXPK White Plains
105.5 DHA Dover WDHA
92.7/96.9 WRRV/WRRB Middletown-Arlington, NY
95.9 The Rat Neptune, NJ
i95.1 CT
NYC's closest Country Stations:
WKMK 106.3/106.5 Jersey Shore
WRWD 107.3 Middletown/Hudson Valley, NY
94.3/97.3 The Wolf Hudson Valley (their signal isn't as strong as WRWD)
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The Rat's signal is so bad it shouldn't even count. I live in Edison and I get better reception from WRFF (which isn't that great to begin with). I live further away from Dover than Point Pleasant and yet DHA's signal is so much better than the Rat's (the sound quality does go down whenever it rains though).
 
XCountry285 said:
The NYC Market's closest Alternative/Rock/AAA stations are:
107.1 The Peak WXPK White Plains
105.5 DHA Dover WDHA
92.7/96.9 WRRV/WRRB Middletown-Arlington, NY
95.9 The Rat Neptune, NJ
i95.1 CT
NYC's closest Country Stations:
WKMK 106.3/106.5 Jersey Shore
WRWD 107.3 Middletown/Hudson Valley, NY
94.3/97.3 The Wolf Hudson Valley (their signal isn't as strong as WRWD)
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For country you forgot WJVC (96.1) out in Suffolk County
 
TALENTfilter said:
Most country and alternative music fans in the NY metro already have Sirius/XM in their cars. The non-drivers use Spotify/Pandora/Slacker. It's too late.
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And you know this by the comprehensive market studies you've commissioned in New York, Talentfister? Or is it just an assumption based on some anecdotal observations you've made in bars and at parties? Just wonderin'.
 
XCountry285 said:
Of those stations I love WRRV & WRWD the most.
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Honestly, it seems like all around, the Hudson Valley really has it down packed with radio stations that cover the majority of tastes out there. :)
 
XCountry285 said:
NYC's closest Country Stations:
WKMK 106.3/106.5 Jersey Shore
WRWD 107.3 Middletown/Hudson Valley, NY
94.3/97.3 The Wolf Hudson Valley (their signal isn't as strong as WRWD)
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There is also Kicks 105.5 in Danbury that plays country. Also 96.1 out of Allentown comes in pretty well once you get west of exit 35 on I-80 in Morris County.
 
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