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Altoona Mirror Article

News paper article was shallow.
Dick didn't leave he was fired.

Many people at Forever do not get along they simply deal.
Walt Frank missed the mark. Article has little of the realty that local radio is dealing with, particularly in the clusters where revenues are w-a-y off. People let go, services dropped and profits are all but disappearing.
Had Frank taken a little time to check with people who have left radio in the last two years he would have learned about some of the real crap that is going on. Maybe it would remind Frank too much of the newspaper's problems.
Less readers, less ads, more phone books. It's a different world Frankie.

Headbone out!
 
Radioheadbone said:
News paper article was shallow.

Nothing against newspapers, but most every newspaper article is shallow; if you want deep thoughts you should be reading something other than newspapers. Maybe someone will write a book for you to read. Frank should write one and I would read it.

Here are a few key points that I picked up on:
This article focused a lot on Forever, perhaps because of the number of stations??
"Carol Logan, president of Forever Broadcasting, said her stations do not really compete against each other."
That is true, but I think that some competition would improve the quality of Altoona radio. I enjoy driving through cities with multiple stations programming the same or similar formats and going after the same demos. Those are the most exciting markets to drive through. I live for great radio and therefore I live for competition. I always enjoy seeing an underdog compete with the big guys because it brings improvements to both parties. I am really excited about some of the recent developments in Altoona radio and think that the increased competition will have a positive impact on all of the stations.

The best part of this article or at least what really spoke to me was the last portion:
‘‘The teen audience is going away from radio. My kids grew up with a transistor radio. My grandchildren don’t have any loyalty to radio,’’ Simpson said.

Barger agreed, adding that it’s local personality and local content that will draw in listeners.

‘‘If you just want music, you can get all you want by plugging it into your iPod. You can get what you want when you want it and not depend on a DJ and there are no commercials,’’ he said. ‘‘If all we are delivering is music, we have competitors that are much more efficient.’’


I have a lot more songs on my iPod than any radio station programs and I hate none of them. I still listen to radio because of the DJ's and personalities. I tune into a lot of stations over the internet and listen all day at work in my office. Many stations that I stream online are actually broadcast stations, but they are stations that are still working hard to create interesting programming and going to great lengths to compete in a global marketplace (the web). The more entertaining and exciting voices I can hear yapping on my radio, the less iPod and the more radio. I think that too many radio people are in denial of this fact, so it was nice to see this article touch on it.

Local stations need to invest in local personalities (this might involved some live overnights to allow people to become better and find their thing). With enough entertaining personalities, local radio will have a great future. If the shows are really unique those local personalities will become global personalities by way of the web.

I will also note that people at Forever do get along. Sure Radioheadbone, in any workplace there are people who just deal, but from what I have observed, many personalities at Forever share a love for radio and get along well. Look at the banter on some of the jocks MySpace comments for evidence of this.
 
Dick joined Bixler to be a newsman which he what he was doing in his declining days at WFBG. When Bixler couldn't pay the bills and Randy was tired of dumping in money, Bixler cut expenses, fired the blind guys, and forced Dick to go into sales in order to keep his job. Dick Dowdell would have been a good source for the article during this point in time. WFBG brought Dick back in sales in the mid 70's after Bixler began experiencing some FCC problems like double billing and forgetting to play the Mutual spots but forgetting to let Mutual know. As usual, Ron Radio (Roger Corey) has a selective memory. While I remember no funeral wreath being laid on the WFBG show wagon, I do remember one being left at the WVAM door on "Broadcast Hill" back when Corey was carrying a briefcase to work and claimed to be doing "research" or "showprep" or some silly such thing. I think Corey was long gone from WVAM when the Show Wagon was towed to the junk yard. It had no motor so it was always TOWED to all of it's appearances. As for Tim Burns and Tom Foolery, they were gone from the market by 1972 at the latest when Corey was still working WKMC in the cove. When Corey and his briefcase got dispatched to WEIR in Weirton, West Virginia to do mornings, he took along the famous McKay laugh track and tried to sound mean spirited, nasty, and sarcastic. A poor imitation of McKay at best. Somewhere in the middle of this mess, Dick PRE-RECORDED a school patrol report and said everything was fine and they were crossing the PA border and "whooooosh....here we are in Maryland". Problem was that the bus had broken down and the report was inaccurate. I can't remember how that deal came out and it seems to be the FCC got involved in that fiascal also. Ask Corey, he'll probably what he thinks he remembers.
 
If you have ever observed or been part of Alt Mirror interview, you will notice the report writes as fast as they can, they always point out how their writing is chicken scratch and always add, "I have a hard time reading it."

Then they rush back to the news room and type in as much as they can remember as fast as they can (gotta a deadline for an article they were working on last week), occassionally looking at their notes and trying to make out some of the words to jog their memories. That finally gets written up into an article that, in many cases, the interviewee reads and declares, "I NEVER SAID THAT! THEY GOT IT ALL WRONG."

That's why some people refuse to talk to the Alt Mir. They know their record for inaccuracy!
 
Broadcastress said:
If you have ever observed or been part of Alt Mirror interview, you will notice the report writes as fast as they can, they always point out how their writing is chicken scratch and always add, "I have a hard time reading it."

Then they rush back to the news room and type in as much as they can remember as fast as they can (gotta a deadline for an article they were working on last week), occassionally looking at their notes and trying to make out some of the words to jog their memories. That finally gets written up into an article that, in many cases, the interviewee reads and declares, "I NEVER SAID THAT! THEY GOT IT ALL WRONG."

That's why some people refuse to talk to the Alt Mir. They know their record for inaccuracy!

I've observed, been part and have seen the reporters using recorders while they take notes. Calling BS on your post.
 
You are more than a bit confused. Seldom is seen a recording device with an A.M. reporter. Ask the people working at A.M. That is mostly a radio technique.
 
I've seen it. Most use recorders to back up any notes, at minimum. If someone has a problem with being misquoted, take it to the management of the paper with proof. Don't whine about it in generalities on a message board.
 
NICE POSTING, FRYMAN!

You said it all...no wait...you missed something. At 'VAM there was a snake in the grass. Someone going behind people's back trying to stir up trouble, spreading lies, trying to undermine etc, etc, etc. Golly, I wonder who this was? Could it be the snake's playbook was in the brief case???

Dick Dowdell. What a fantastic voice. I think I heard him in the Tampa area in recent years. I wonder if he's still around? Dick Dowdell...now there's a name which brings back thoughts of broadcast excellence!
 
A snake in the grass that I remember today is doing mornings in a local a.m. station.
 
Talknet said:
Dick Dowdell. What a fantastic voice. I think I heard him in the Tampa area in recent years. I wonder if he's still around? Dick Dowdell...now there's a name which brings back thoughts of broadcast excellence!


Are you sure you heard him in Tampa? Last time I knew, which was a few years back, Dick had gotten out of radio all together and was the Safety Manager for a trucking company in Altoona.

Dick was a great person. Taught me a lot about radio while back in the days at WHPA.
 
Yes. Although it was a few years ago...maybe 5 or more. I recognized the voice in a heartbeat and he identified himself as Dick Dowdell. I don't remember which Tampa station.
 
Yes, you did hear me in Tampa because I worked as a broadcaster for AccuWeather and voiced the forecasts for about 69 stations on the Florida Radio Network, along with many others from Canada to all 50 states and the Leeward Islands. And, yes, I was the Safety and Compliance Manager for trucking companies in the Altoona area. In fact, I wrote a Manual to help truckers and found the best way for them to use it was the Internet, so I built a website to sell it: www.trucking-compliance.com. I just discovered this site by accident when I Googled my own name. Thanks for remembering me.
 
DickDowdell said:
Yes, you did hear me in Tampa because I worked as a broadcaster for AccuWeather and voiced the forecasts for about 69 stations on the Florida Radio Network, along with many others from Canada to all 50 states and the Leeward Islands. And, yes, I was the Safety and Compliance Manager for trucking companies in the Altoona area. In fact, I wrote a Manual to help truckers and found the best way for them to use it was the Internet, so I built a website to sell it: www.trucking-compliance.com. I just discovered this site by accident when I Googled my own name. Thanks for remembering me.

Is that you on those milk commercials?
 
No, that isn't me on any milk commercials; wish it were. My voice work in the past several years has been limited to Automated Attendant on some business phone systems.
 
If you mean the Allied Milk Producers commercials, those have been voiced for many years by Ron Lorence, former WJAC-TV weatherman and radio station owner in the Johnstown/Somerset market.
 
RFHog said:
If you mean the Allied Milk Producers commercials, those have been voiced for many years by Ron Lorence, former WJAC-TV weatherman and radio station owner in the Johnstown/Somerset market.

What is Brad Lorence up to lately?
 
I remember back as early as 1969, the talented Dowdell did much of the production at WVAM including all those Gables' commercials with the Gables' bed in the background ending with the vocal "it's Gables in Altoona". Dick was also a GREAT newsman in the Denny Bixler days doing many of the WVAM newscasts. Dick was more than hip...he had long hair, a beard, and drove a VW. You don't get much cooler than that. In fact, Dick was so hip that he seldom would eat a square meal.
 
For another commercial (this one on television every Christmas, how about the one WJAC did for a Johnstown bank using Kenny Rogers "Through the Years" as background. And how about the old WJAC guys...Ron Stevenson by the American Flag, Ron Lawrence doing weather not to mention the late Chic someone...I think it was Young who was able to present "weather in motion". The man was ahead of computers and ahead of his time. Denny Pompa grew up watching channel 6 from high atop the Allghenies.
 
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