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AM 1510 playing "Standards" now...

I've been tuning in to this station from time to time to hear what's on and looking forward to the arrival of "the Pig" ... this morning there is a Sinatra-heavy mix of "Magic 61 / KABL" style tunes.

hmmmmm
 
> I've been tuning in to this station from time to time to
> hear what's on and looking forward to the arrival of "the
> Pig" ... this morning there is a Sinatra-heavy mix of "Magic
> 61 / KABL" style tunes.
>
> hmmmmm
>

Right after the toh id at 10a, they played "Piggies" by the Beatles, then back to the Standards... I wonder where the source of their audio is... who's playin' the happy tunes here?
 
> > I've been tuning in to this station from time to time to
> > hear what's on and looking forward to the arrival of "the
> > Pig" ... this morning there is a Sinatra-heavy mix of
> "Magic
> > 61 / KABL" style tunes.
> >
> > hmmmmm
> >
>
> Right after the toh id at 10a, they played "Piggies" by the
> Beatles, then back to the Standards... I wonder where the
> source of their audio is... who's playin' the happy tunes
> here?
>
its because they are broadcasting the l.a station and they where even when they where oldies<P ID="signature">______________
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> > > I've been tuning in to this station from time to time to
>
> > > hear what's on and looking forward to the arrival of
> "the
> > > Pig" ... this morning there is a Sinatra-heavy mix of
> > "Magic
> > > 61 / KABL" style tunes.
> > >
> > > hmmmmm
> > >
> >
> > Right after the toh id at 10a, they played "Piggies" by
> the
> > Beatles, then back to the Standards... I wonder where the
> > source of their audio is... who's playin' the happy tunes
> > here?
> >
> its because they are broadcasting the l.a station and they
> where even when they where oldies

So why would the LA station play "Piggies" followed by Sinatra and Andy Williams? Clearly the big KPIG switch is imminent -- the "Oldies 1510" IDs have been replaced by "AM 1510". Guess this is supposed to make the Oldies listeners (all 5 of 'em) go away...
 
Here's Why 1510 Is Doing Standards in June

> So why would the LA station play "Piggies" followed by
> Sinatra and Andy Williams? Clearly the big KPIG switch is
> imminent -- the "Oldies 1510" IDs have been replaced by "AM
> 1510". Guess this is supposed to make the Oldies listeners
> (all 5 of 'em) go away...

If I remember right, Saul Levine has had 1510 voicetracked from his AM 1260/540 combo in Los Angeles. That combo recently changed from oldies to standards, after a brief stop at "oldies shuffle".

I'm guessing that since the L.A. folks are doing standards now, they aren't doing any extra work to ship oldies up to the Bay Area...since 1510 will be oinking in a couple of weeks or so. So, they just ship up, electronically, the format they're doing now on 540/1260.

-OA
 
RadioJunkieMike wrote:

> So why would the LA station play "Piggies" followed by
> Sinatra and Andy Williams? Clearly the big KPIG switch is
> imminent -- the "Oldies 1510" IDs have been replaced by "AM
> 1510". Guess this is supposed to make the Oldies listeners
> (all 5 of 'em) go away...
>

Hey, wait a minute! There are six of us, and we're going to protest the format switch in front of the station's studios in Piedmont next Thursday. Or maybe Friday. One or two of us may be busy on Thursday.

KMZT/1510 has been playing "Piggies" a lot lately, perhaps as a "mini stunt" foreshadowing things to come.

D.J.
 
Re: Here's Why 1510 Is Doing Standards in June

> > So why would the LA station play "Piggies" followed by
> > Sinatra and Andy Williams? Clearly the big KPIG switch is
>
> > imminent -- the "Oldies 1510" IDs have been replaced by
> "AM
> > 1510". Guess this is supposed to make the Oldies listeners
>
> > (all 5 of 'em) go away...
>
> If I remember right, Saul Levine has had 1510 voicetracked
> from his AM 1260/540 combo in Los Angeles. That combo
> recently changed from oldies to standards, after a brief
> stop at "oldies shuffle".
>
> I'm guessing that since the L.A. folks are doing standards
> now, they aren't doing any extra work to ship oldies up to
> the Bay Area...since 1510 will be oinking in a couple of
> weeks or so. So, they just ship up, electronically, the
> format they're doing now on 540/1260.
>
> -OA

Thanks, that makes more sense. But what's Saul Levine thinking? doesn't LA already have a fine Standards station ("Fabulous 690")?

In any case, the SF version is playing "Piggies" once an hour, and we haven't heard any commercials since the switch. Interesting mix, tho' -- ever other song is Sinatra, the rest mostly Streisand, Tony Bennett, the Rod Stewart standards albums, and the occasional odd "soft rock" nugget (Heard Bread's "Aubrey" earlier for the first time in ages).
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by RadioJunkieMike on 06/19/05 06:03 PM.</FONT></P>
 
Question about KMZT 1510

I'm surprised the FCC even allowed KMZT's license to come into existance. KGA 1510 here in Spokane is 50kw 24/7.

How badly does KGA tear up KMZT at night? I would imagine KMZT's low power coupled with a 50kw coming from the north gives them a 5-10 miles radius.

Thanks<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by chokesman-review on 06/19/05 07:16 PM.</FONT></P>
 
Re: Question about KMZT 1510

chokesman-review wrote:

> How badly does KGA tear up KMZT at night? I would imagine
> KMZT's low power coupled with a 50kw coming from the north
> gives them a 5-10 miles radius.
>

KMZT at night? May as well be a daytimer-only if you are outside San Francisco and Marin County. Here's their night-time coverage:

KMZT/1510 Nighttime Coverage Pattern

During day hours here at the base of the Altamont, KMZT is extremely weak. At night, it's like we're a suburb of Spokane on 1510.
 
Why Saul went Standards (again)

> Thanks, that makes more sense. But what's Saul Levine
> thinking? doesn't LA already have a fine Standards station
> ("Fabulous 690")?

The JSA Clear Channel holds for XETRA/690 Tijuana is being divested to comply with a FCC decision that LMAs or JSAs count for a company's total number of allowable stations in a market. Prior to that decision, CC had JSA'd several Tijuana-licensed stations to gain an advantage in the San Diego market, where they already own the maximum number of San Diego-licensed stations.

XETRA will be doing Spanish language talk under the new JSA holders. Thus Saul is moving before the actual format change of 690 to establish his format on 540 Tijuana/San Diego and 1260 Beverly Hills/L.A. (Incidentally, it will be the fifth time Saul will have done Standards on 1260 since he bought it a little over a decade ago.)
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Re: Why Saul went Standards (again)

> > Levine was doing Standards in LA before Clear Channel flipped KLAC to that format. He got royally and publicly POed, and made lots of accusations - claiming CC was trying to run him out of business, and so forth. He flipped to the Oldies format a few months later.

AM 1510's signal is awful. I lived in a canyon in Marin County when it was KTIM-AM a couple of decades ago. At night it would fade in and out, just miles from the transmitter. I love KPIG, but don't think I'll be listening much in low fidelity monaural sound with constant crackling interference.

Thanks, that makes more sense. But what's Saul Levine
> > thinking? doesn't LA already have a fine Standards station
>
> > ("Fabulous 690")?
>
> The JSA Clear Channel holds for XETRA/690 Tijuana is being
> divested to comply with a FCC decision that LMAs or JSAs
> count for a company's total number of allowable stations in
> a market. Prior to that decision, CC had JSA'd several
> Tijuana-licensed stations to gain an advantage in the San
> Diego market, where they already own the maximum number of
> San Diego-licensed stations.
>
> XETRA will be doing Spanish language talk under the new JSA
> holders. Thus Saul is moving before the actual format
> change of 690 to establish his format on 540 Tijuana/San
> Diego and 1260 Beverly Hills/L.A. (Incidentally, it will be
> the fifth time Saul will have done Standards on 1260 since
> he bought it a little over a decade ago.)
>
 
Re: 1510 Reception In Marin County

Lkeller wrote:

> AM 1510's signal is awful. I lived in a canyon in Marin
> County when it was KTIM-AM a couple of decades ago. At
> night it would fade in and out, just miles from the
> transmitter. I love KPIG, but don't think I'll be listening
> much in low fidelity monaural sound with constant crackling
> interference.
>

L,

But they didn't add nighttime service until May 2004, so how were you listening at night way back then? And a couple of decades ago, the station's transmitter was at Silveira Ranch on Redwood Highway in Marin County (from 1974 through 1999), and their signal was solid in Marin County.

The 1510 station has been through enough call letter changes in the last 20 years that it could fill a book, after being KTIM from 1946 to 1988:

* KCAF (July 1988)
* KTID (May 1989)
* KAPX (November 1990)
* KTID (again, November 1992)
* KKHI (October 1994, after Westinghouse bought 1550)
* KNOB (April 1995)
* KKHI (again, February 1997)
* KJQI (December 1998)
* KMZT (February 2000)
* KJQI (again, March 2001)
* KJAZ (March 2002)
* KTIM (again, August 2002)
* KMZT (again, August 2003)

That's 13 call letter changes, with recycling of KKHI, KJAZ, KTID, KMZT and KJQI -- plus their own original KTIM -- with another change coming when the station becomes KPIG-By-The-Bay.

DJ
 
Re: 1510 Reception In Marin County

> The 1510 station has been through enough call letter changes
> in the last 20 years that it could fill a book, after being
> KTIM from 1946 to 1988:
>
> * KCAF (July 1988)
> * KTID (May 1989)
> * KAPX (November 1990)
> * KTID (again, November 1992)
> * KKHI (October 1994, after Westinghouse bought 1550)
> * KNOB (April 1995)
> * KKHI (again, February 1997)
> * KJQI (December 1998)
> * KMZT (February 2000)
> * KJQI (again, March 2001)
> * KJAZ (March 2002)
> * KTIM (again, August 2002)
> * KMZT (again, August 2003)
>
> That's 13 call letter changes, with recycling of KKHI, KJAZ,
> KTID, KMZT and KJQI -- plus their own original KTIM -- with
> another change coming when the station becomes
> KPIG-By-The-Bay.

And note that ten of those call letter changes were under Saul Levine's ownership, with the KNOB calls coming from his former 540 Costa Mesa station after it flipped to News, KJQI being from his 1260 Beverly Hills station after it went back to its original KGIL calls, KJAZ also coming from 1260 after it flipped to Standards for the fourth time, and KMZT being on his 105.1 in Los Angeles.
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Re: Why Saul went Standards (again)

Why? Why? You ask? Who knows why he does what he does other than he's freakin' crazy - it's a real life radio version of Citien Kane

> > > Levine was doing Standards in LA before Clear Channel
> flipped KLAC to that format. He got royally and publicly
> POed, and made lots of accusations - claiming CC was trying
> to run him out of business, and so forth. He flipped to the
> Oldies format a few months later.
>
> AM 1510's signal is awful. I lived in a canyon in Marin
> County when it was KTIM-AM a couple of decades ago. At
> night it would fade in and out, just miles from the
> transmitter. I love KPIG, but don't think I'll be listening
> much in low fidelity monaural sound with constant crackling
> interference.
>
> Thanks, that makes more sense. But what's Saul Levine
> > > thinking? doesn't LA already have a fine Standards
> station
> >
> > > ("Fabulous 690")?
> >
> > The JSA Clear Channel holds for XETRA/690 Tijuana is being
>
> > divested to comply with a FCC decision that LMAs or JSAs
> > count for a company's total number of allowable stations
> in
> > a market. Prior to that decision, CC had JSA'd several
> > Tijuana-licensed stations to gain an advantage in the San
> > Diego market, where they already own the maximum number of
>
> > San Diego-licensed stations.
> >
> > XETRA will be doing Spanish language talk under the new
> JSA
> > holders. Thus Saul is moving before the actual format
> > change of 690 to establish his format on 540 Tijuana/San
> > Diego and 1260 Beverly Hills/L.A. (Incidentally, it will
> be
> > the fifth time Saul will have done Standards on 1260 since
>
> > he bought it a little over a decade ago.)
> >
>
 
Re: 1510 Reception In Marin County

> But they didn't add nighttime service until May 2004, so how
> were you listening at night way back then? And a couple of
> decades ago, the station's transmitter was at Silveira Ranch
> on Redwood Highway in Marin County (from 1974 through 1999),
> and their signal was solid in Marin County.

KMZT-soon-to-be-KPIG(AM)-1510 now has its antenna atop a warehouse in West Oakland, just across the bay from San Francisco.

The bulk of the signal shoots into SF, with a lobe back into the east bay. Here's the usual "for entertainment purposes only" map from Radio-Locator, day signal:

http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=KMZT&service=AM&status=L&hours=N

Actual signal may vary, etc...

-OA
 
Re: Question about KMZT 1510

They used to be daytime only until they move to Piedmont.
 
I'll show up with ya! I guess that would make me listener #7.
 
Re: 1510 Reception In Marin County

> Uh...well...mea culpa, I guess. It's a 30 year old memory. I listened to KTIM FM at home, and would attempt to get a good signal in my car on my perfectly decent stock AM only tuner. I guess that means the signal must have sucked in Fairfax/San Anselmo during the DAY. The point is...while I liked the music on 1510 when it was Oldies recently, I didn't listen much due to the sound quality in San Francisco. Low-fi monaural I can live with, but if I want cracks, pops, and static, I can listen to some of my 40 year old LPs, and at least get stereo.

As to the checkered history of both frequencies...if my apparently failing memory is correct - KTIM FM and AM were both owned by the San Rafael Independent Journal in the 70s (possibly before). The paper was very succesful, but the radio stations never made much money. When the paper was sold to a big newspaper corporation in 1988 or 89,(to Knight-Ridder, I think...though I may be off on that) the stations were sold to a different company. The new owners really ran them into the crapper with "The Wave"(early smooth jazz). They were sued by the owners of The Wave in LA for violating copyright, became "The Tide" instead...then filed bankruptcy sometime later.

Lkeller wrote:
>
> > AM 1510's signal is awful. I lived in a canyon in Marin
> > County when it was KTIM-AM a couple of decades ago. At
> > night it would fade in and out, just miles from the
> > transmitter. I love KPIG, but don't think I'll be
> listening
> > much in low fidelity monaural sound with constant
> crackling
> > interference.
> >
>
> L,
>
> But they didn't add nighttime service until May 2004, so how
> were you listening at night way back then? And a couple of
> decades ago, the station's transmitter was at Silveira Ranch
> on Redwood Highway in Marin County (from 1974 through 1999),
> and their signal was solid in Marin County.
>
> The 1510 station has been through enough call letter changes
> in the last 20 years that it could fill a book, after being
> KTIM from 1946 to 1988:
>
> * KCAF (July 1988)
> * KTID (May 1989)
> * KAPX (November 1990)
> * KTID (again, November 1992)
> * KKHI (October 1994, after Westinghouse bought 1550)
> * KNOB (April 1995)
> * KKHI (again, February 1997)
> * KJQI (December 1998)
> * KMZT (February 2000)
> * KJQI (again, March 2001)
> * KJAZ (March 2002)
> * KTIM (again, August 2002)
> * KMZT (again, August 2003)
>
> That's 13 call letter changes, with recycling of KKHI, KJAZ,
> KTID, KMZT and KJQI -- plus their own original KTIM -- with
> another change coming when the station becomes
> KPIG-By-The-Bay.
>
> DJ
>
 
Re: Question about KMZT 1510

> I'm surprised the FCC even allowed KMZT's license to come
> into existance. KGA 1510 here in Spokane is 50kw 24/7.
>
> How badly does KGA tear up KMZT at night? I would imagine
> KMZT's low power coupled with a 50kw coming from the north
> gives them a 5-10 miles radius.
>
> Thanks
>
You can't stations from far away from 1200kz on or can you now? When I was a kid, I tried and got static. One night in the 60's I got WCBS 880.
 
Re: KMZT Call Letter History

KMR wrote:

> ...KJAZ also coming from 1260 after it flipped to Standards for the fourth time.


Those KJAZ digits have their heritage in the Bay Area, however, having taken root on Pat Henry's pioneering jazz station in Alameda back in 1959. The KJAZ calls remained on 92.7 through the Nineties when Ron Cowan finally gave up on the station.
 
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