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AM 1630 Spanish Religion in San Bernardino?

Hi all,

Hope I'm posting this in the right place. I don't see a San Bernardino / Riverside / Inland Empire board, so I picked L.A. (over San Diego), as I think L.A. stations are more likely to be heard in the I.E. and vice versa than San Diego stations. (although from San Diego, L.A. is much more common than I.E.)

I've often visited the San Bernardino & Loma Linda area, and over the past few years or so I've noticed a Spanish-language religious station in the area on 1630 kHz. Per my limited observations, they are fairly weak but readable at the Greyhound bus station, and a little stronger a few blocks to the east on 5th Street. To the south, I could also hear them quite weak near Inland Center mall (or outside El Pollo Loco a block or two up E Street). At a few places on Hospitality Lane, like Souplantation or Guitar Center, IIRC, 1630 was faint, but audible. At Loma Linda Dental School / Medical Center, there was a carrier on 1630, but too weak for audio.

I was there again this past Wednesday and Thursday, and recorded a TOH ID on 1630 on my PL-398mp while across the street from the Greyhound terminal. This was done at 7pm, so there's skywave interference from Tijuana's XEUT (mostly from the offset heterodyne - the local Español religion is on top). Provided you have good headphones, a very good "DXer's ear" and are somewhat fluent in Spanish, anyone have any idea what this station is? Partway through the clip they give a website (and later maybe a church name), but I'm having a tough time makIng it out.

I'll be in the area again this Wednesday, and if the opportunity presents itself I may try to record the TOH ID in the middle of the day when the signal is relatively clean. If someone could help ID it from the clip, though, I'd like to, time and local public transit routes and schedules permitting, visit the transmitter site. Otherwise, besides my Loma Linda appointment, I anticipate possibly visiting a piano store in Loma Linda where an acquaintance is the owner, and/or visiting a field just east of Bessant St (north of Baseline St) in San Bernardino to experiment & test a few of my AM radios. I already have this gut feeling that receiving 1280-KFRN, 1300-KAZN or 1300-KROP would be a bit difficult from the middle of the field, even with my DSP-selective Tecsun PL-398mp. ;) I wonder if I might hear that 1630 from somewhere else in the field, though…

73, Stephen
 
According to Uncle Charlie, there don't appear to be any licensed stations at 1630 in the state of California.

Val
 
1630 on your radio is probably a result of strong signal-mixing in the R.F/ I.F. section. I would expect that what you are hearing is KHPY 1670. Its signal is being mixed with another strong, nearby AM station, resulting in a 'phantom' or image on 1630. The FM sections of my Tecsuns have their own issues w/strong signals, also.
 
I don't think it's 1670. When I've been in Moreno Valley, where 1670 is stronger due to their directional antenna and transmitter location, there was no trace of San Bernardino's 1630. Also KGPY is Catholic, and I've never heard any Dios te salve, Maria… on 1630.
I also thought of 1240, but 1 - 1630 got stronger walking EAST of the Greyhound depot AWAY from KEZY (Radio Nueva Vida), and tuning over to 1240 revealed different programming.

This signal seems too small to be a licensed expanded band station. (As well, it's too close to XEUT Tijuana, unless it had so deep of a null to the south that its carrier completely faded below the atmospheric noise while still close enough to see the paint pattern on the towers.) I suspect it's a part 15 operation. It's too small for a TIS/HAR, based on my faintly hearing San Ysidro's 1620 WNSB415 at the east side of the Viejas Outlet Center parking lot, or my barely-there reception of a carrier from Vista's 530 WNRS427 at my house just north of Rancho San Diego. Those HARs seem to get out several times farther than San Bernardino's 1630.

Was just wondering if someone who lives in the area knows what & where the 1630 is? Can anyone get any ID clues from the video?
 
I *think* it might be connected with one of the local Spanish-speaking Baptist churches in San Berdoo....I might try to listen tomorrow...
 
Yesterday afternoon I was in the area & had a few minutes, so did a little driving around, attempting to locate it. Unfortunately, time constraints and other engagements prevented me from accomplishing my objective at all, but I think I have some idea where it is.

On Tippecanoe Ave just north of Hospitality Lane, the signal was barely readable on my mom's '02 Honda Accord.
Near 6th & Sierra it was nulling when the loopstick axis was pointed approximately east/west on my PL-398mp, and in the low 30s dBu or so. (I got out of the car to check this.)
On Baseline a bit west of Arrowhead, the signal was peaking pointing north/south.
I checked a few other spots, but made the mistake of not noting them.
Also I drove down a few streets (Baseline, 5th, E, Arrowhead, Sierra) attempting to locate it based on varying signal strength, but was unsuccessful. I also drove by a few churches, but none of them revealed a strong signal nearby.

Unfortunately I was unable to meet my primary goal of locating the actual transmitter and antenna (and overloading my radio to the point of complete blocking on-channel), or even my secondary goal of getting a very strong (88+ dBu) signal and moderate-to-severe front-end desense. I think I do have some idea what area of town it may be in, though, but I'm not sure.
Next time I go I won't have a car, so will be using the bus for transportation. I'd like to visit it, but would need to already know where it is.

I did hear parts of the TOH ID yesterday, but failed to record it, and was driving through a noisy / shadow area. I did hear them mention San Bernardino, Radio El Shaddai (but the website wouldn't come up - could be I mis-copied it), and something about Iglesia and/or Bautista or so. They also gave an address, but as I said I was in a noisy / weak spot so I couldn't copy it.

Maybe if charles hobbs is in the area, you (or someone) could record the TOH ID (after you find a spot with a usable signal - doesn't have to be completely static free, though - 10-15dB S/N is probably good enough) and post it somewhere?
 
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You're a brave man (or very naive), wandering into San Bernardino like that with all the murders that have taken place there lately.

One very recent Saturday nigh in Berdoo had four (4!) murders take place in a very small square block area within a 12-hour span!

In the following link, here's a picture of a billboard that the SB Chamber of Commerce (that almost qualifies as an oxymoron) wouldn't want you or anyone else to see:

http://www.sbsun.com/news/ci_23142032/billboard-congratulates-san-bernardino-being-worst-run-city

San Bernardino has become the Flint, Michigan of the west.

Post script: Check the street signs. Is that a corner of Highland & Highland in that picture? There is a corner of Third & Fifth in that area!
 
Rico, the article mentioned its Highland and E st
They just happened to have two signs showing Highland.
I guess to make sure no one gets lost in that paradise.
 
I was in and around downtown Fontana this morning, about 8:30-9 am. Here's what I heard on 1630.

I was over by the Metrolink train station at about 8:30, I tuned the radio to 1630 and heard some oldies (songs like Turn Turn Turn by
the Byrds, etc.) I drove south on Sierra to the Kaiser medical center, the signal got weaker. There was a lot of powerline noise, and the static
from my car's ignition didn't help matters either.

I left Kaiser about 9:15, traveling north on Sierra, then left on Foothill. As I approached Foothill and Cherry, the signal actually increased. There was a male voice speaking in what sounded like Spanish, and which might have been preaching, but the signal was still too noisy to make out what he was saying.

I didn't have time to go further east, may give it a shot next week.

Oh, and I concur with RicoGregg about San Bernardino. Outside of the immediate downtown area, I wouldn't go near it. A few years ago, I occasionally visited a relative there and never felt so unsafe in my life...and you're talking to someone who has worked in the Watts/Willowbrook/Compton/North Long Beach area for the past 15 years with no ill effect!
 
charles hobbs, me thinks thou wast in the wrong area looking for the signal. I was hearing the signal in San Bernardino, not Fontana. I'm guessing the 1630 I'm talking about would be tough to hear south of Redlands Blvd, west of I-215, north of Highland or east of the SBD airport. Maybe a good radio & antenna would bring it in outside that range - I can detect a trace of it with my PL-398mp outside the Loma Linda Dental School, but not enough to copy audio.

Also I was completely unaware of the crime situation in SBD. BTW my transmitter hunting was conducted in broad daylight. I wouldn't be doing it at night due to skywave interference, even without being aware of the other factors. (I do want to go meet my Creafor sooner rather than later, but preferably not THAT way. :) )

I don't know when the next time I'll be in the SBD / Loma Linda / Moreno Valley area is, but probably within the next couple months or less, maybe sooner. Any chance someone could record the station's TOH ID? (The song "El Shaddai" plays throughout the ID".) It mught help me locate the transmitter, as they give a church's address that I couldn't make out last time I was there, and I'd guess the transmitter oughtta be near there. Now if I could get close enough to get a somewhat moderately strong signal like this (but using ONLY the radio's internal ferrite bar, without adding the Select-A-Tenna or utility ground wire like in the linked video clip)… ;)
 
I took a drive around San Bernardino/Redlands this afternoon, using the 210, 30, and 10 freeways. Mostly static on 1630, though I did hear a bit of a man talking in Spanish as I passed through Colton (I-10/I-215 interchange). The signal wasn't strong enough to make out what he was saying, though.

I stayed on the freeways, and didn't try to find out if the signal is stronger near Downtown San Bernardino. Maybe later....
 
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