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AM 890

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tanner

I was traveling thru Altamonte Springs this evening around 5pm and there was a carrier signal on AM 890. Is a station testing and planning to go on the air soon?
 
tanner said:
I was traveling thru Altamonte Springs this evening around 5pm and there was a carrier signal on AM 890. Is a station testing and planning to go on the air soon?
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YES... There is a new 50kwDA-D AM station on 890 licensed to Longwood soon to commence broadcast service. The new station is owned by Family Radio (Family Stations, Inc. Harold Camping, President) based out of San Francisco.

Mark Tillery
General Manager
WELE-AM 1380
Ormond Beach - Daytona Beach, Florida
[email protected]
 
jmtillery said:
tanner said:
I was traveling thru Altamonte Springs this evening around 5pm and there was a carrier signal on AM 890. Is a station testing and planning to go on the air soon?
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YES... There is a new 50kwDA-D AM station on 890 licensed to Longwood soon to commence broadcast service. The new station is owned by Family Radio (Family Stations, Inc. Harold Camping, President) based out of San Francisco.

Mark Tillery
General Manager
WELE-AM 1380
Ormond Beach - Daytona Beach, Florida
[email protected]
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Mark, do you know what the DA-D pattern is? South or out to the ocean..Format?
 
Do you know what the DA-D pattern is? South or out to the ocean..Format?
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http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?stat...&slat2=&NS=N&dlon2=&mlon2=&slon2=&EW=W&size=9

If I'm looking at it correctly, it looks like the pattern will be towards the south east. If it's Family Radio it will be a Religious formatted station.
Also, Family Radio is all listener supported, they don't do pay for play according to Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Radio
And FWIW,a 50k daytimer? Why bother, especially in this economy which may explain why they're not on the air as of yet.
 
This is your basic 2-tower cardioid pattern. Since the towers are oriented on a 120º line, the major lobe will be on that heading. The transmitter is located on Orange Blvd., to the NW of Sanford, so the signal will be blowing directly over that city, and on out sea, passing just to the north of Cape Canaveral. Of course, it'll be heard quite well in the metro Orlando area as well as Daytona Beach, but that's about all. I see there still is no call sign assigned in the FCC database, as the only listing there is is for an application, not even a construction permit. If they have built it and been testing it, then there's a violation somewhere in there. Maybe time to take a ride up that way.
 
Bill981 said:
This is your basic 2-tower cardioid pattern. Since the towers are oriented on a 120º line, the major lobe will be on that heading. The transmitter is located on Orange Blvd., to the NW of Sanford, so the signal will be blowing directly over that city, and on out sea, passing just to the north of Cape Canaveral. Of course, it'll be heard quite well in the metro Orlando area as well as Daytona Beach, but that's about all. I see there still is no call sign assigned in the FCC database, as the only listing there is is for an application, not even a construction permit. If they have built it and been testing it, then there's a violation somewhere in there. Maybe time to take a ride up that way.
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How far North of Cape Canaveral? Bill, thanx and can you keep me advised on this..Thanx ..BIG APE!
 
The Cape is on a bearing of about 122º, so just about directly over it. I imagine the useful coverage would be from Deland to Holly Hill/ Ormond Beach, Daytona Beach, down to about Cocoa & Rockledge, over to St. Cloud, Kissimmee, maybe Clermont and Mt. Plymouth.
 
They're going to have to keep it away from 900/Ocala, so probably not much signal in that direction.
 
WMOP-AM 900 Ocala is exactly the reason 890 is directional with a Southeast pattern. There was a CP is force sometime back for 890 with the same directional day pattern, but the CP also called for 500 watts DA-N using, I think, 5-towers. This was to protect WLS Chicago, and the CP was issued to Family Stations Inc., the same entity that has applied for the new 890 as a daytimer... Apparently the orginal CP expired and Family Radio decided to apply again, only this time as a class D AM instead of a class B requiring fewer towers... Towers are expensive, and Family is most likely looking for the most cost effective way to get a signal in the area with the least amount invested...

Mark Tillery
General Manager
WELE-AM 1380
Ormond Beach-Daytona, Florida
[email protected]
 
Every one speaks about protecting stations such as 550 in Jville agains 540 and 900 WMOP against 890 what about 580 WDBO against spanish on 590 in a small market okeechobee. You could hear WDBO fine in ft pierce daytime if it wasn't for 590.
 
tanner said:
Every one speaks about protecting stations such as 550 in Jville agains 540 and 900 WMOP against 890 what about 580 WDBO against spanish on 590 in a small market okeechobee. You could hear WDBO fine in ft pierce daytime if it wasn't for 590.
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WAFC is in Clewiston, in Hendry County, on the south side of the lake, not Okeechobee on the NE side. Further, it is only 930 directional watts days, and less than 500 watts at night. It puts no interference on the protected contour of WDBO.
 
Given the nighttime noise floor that exists on 890 with WLS fighting the Cuban station, they wouldn't have much coverage anyway. Definitely not worth the cost of building 5 towers.



jmtillery said:
WMOP-AM 900 Ocala is exactly the reason 890 is directional with a Southeast pattern. There was a CP is force sometime back for 890 with the same directional day pattern, but the CP also called for 500 watts DA-N using, I think, 5-towers. This was to protect WLS Chicago, and the CP was issued to Family Stations Inc., the same entity that has applied for the new 890 as a daytimer... Apparently the orginal CP expired and Family Radio decided to apply again, only this time as a class D AM instead of a class B requiring fewer towers... Towers are expensive, and Family is most likely looking for the most cost effective way to get a signal in the area with the least amount invested...

Mark Tillery
General Manager
WELE-AM 1380
Ormond Beach-Daytona, Florida
[email protected]
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