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AM Frequency of the Week - 1010 kHz

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Buckeyes2001

What can you get on 1010 AM?

For me in Vermilion, OH it is CFRB/Toronto, ON during the day with a fairly moderate signal near the lake shore and stronger at night with other 1010s underneath it.
 
Far Northwest subruban Chicago....

Days: Usually moderate splatter from local WMVP (1000). I have heard WSPT (Stevens Point, WI) on rare occasions around sunrise/sunset.

Nights: Usually CFRB...weak to fair, but on top. I've also heard WINS, but not very often. WMVP splatter is not a serious factor once they go to their night pattern.
 
1010 kHz from Lexington, KY:

Daytime:

Nothing Clear, but weak mix of WCSI, Columbus, IN; WIOI, New Boston, OH and possibly WHIN, Galletin, TN

Nighttime:

WINS New York, NY
CFRB Toronto, ON

Sunrise/Sunset:

KXEN St. Louis, MO
WGUN Atlanta, GA
WFGN Black Mountain, NC
 
Anyone ever hear WITL 1010 over in IL or WI when it was on? It had 500 watts into a three tower array directed west, to protect CFRB,and the Canadian border to 5 uV/m, as it is considered Class A internationally. They actually rebuilt the array a couple miles away, apparently to get better coverage of Lansing. It wasn't a matter of selling the land, the old towers were there for years. They only had to protect WCFL to the 0.5 mV/m from the 0.5 mV/m of WITL under the older rules. The FM site is still at the second site. For a while, it was side mounted on one of the AM towers.
 
Schroedingers Cat said:
Anyone ever hear WITL 1010 over in IL or WI when it was on?  It had 500 watts into a three tower array directed west, to protect CFRB,and the Canadian border to 5 uV/m, as it is considered Class A internationally.  They actually rebuilt the array a couple miles away, apparently to get better coverage of Lansing.  It wasn't a matter of selling the land, the old towers were there for years.  They only had to protect WCFL to the 0.5 mV/m from the 0.5 mV/m of WITL under the older rules.  The FM site is still at the second site.  For a while, it was side mounted on one of the AM towers.
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I never heard it here in the Chicago area.  I'm going to guess that the lousy soil conductivity adjacent to the Michigan shore of Lake Michigan probably chewed up whatever was left of the signal and there wasn't enough left of it to make it across the lake.
 
Near north Chicago suburbs: Day--splatter from WMVP; Night--if I can tune around the WMVP splatter which I still get at night I usually hear CFRB and occasionally WINS.
 
Here's everything I've gotten on 1010 during the last few years of DXing, sorted nearest to most distant from my listening location:

WSPT Stevens Point , WI.
WCSI Columbus, IN.
CFRB Toronto
KXEN St. Louis, MO.
KCHI Chillicothe, MO.
WINS New York
KIND Independence, KS.
WGUN Atlanta, GA.
WMOX Meridian, MS. @ 758 miles
KSIR Brush, CO. @ 918 miles
KTNZ Amarillo, TX. @ 995 miles
KLAT Houston, TX. @ 1,054 miles
XEPA Puebla Mex. @ 1,813 miles

The phaser certainly helps in pulling some of these in :)
 
In suburban Rochester NY, it's all CFRB by day, a mix of CFRB and WINS at night (and a nastier one since both stations let out their pattern towards each other some years back). WCNL from NH comes in every once in a while around sunset.
 
Day: static
Night: mess

Some nights, if the skip is strong enough, I can kind of make out cross-talk from KOMO on 1010, but for the most part it's about ten or twenty stations fighting with each other. I imagine a bunch of them must be in California (we get a LOT of California skip up here at nights.)
 
Day: slop from WBZR 1000 AM in Robertsdale, Alabama, which about 10 miles up the road from me. I have heard WMOX from Meridian a few times, though, on a really good car radio, on cloudy winter days.

Night: Nothing steady but I believe I got WGUN around sunset a few times.
 
From NE NC car radio. Days WPMH Portsmouth, VA. CH and nights. 1010WINS dominant. Also WGUN Atlanta and CFRB Toronto.
 
Northern VA,

Very weak WOLB Baltimore on days with only 250W daytime. At nights it's WINS in NY and CFRB Toronto below it.
 
Nothing special in NE PA. The 1010 from Williamsport PA isn't on anymore. When I first moved here, it was weak but solid in the day.

WINS now comes in during the day sometimes. At night it is they plus the occasional CFRB. We're due west of WINS, so we're away from that direct-protection line between Toronto and New York City.

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Olden days, back on Western Long Island, WINS was off one rare afternoon. The small but omni WSID from Baltimore came in, for a crackly but ID-able bit of R&B. In fact, in the opposite direction, I remember hearing WSID in Norfolk VA -- on a clock radio. The signal went right down Chesapeake Bay.
 
With Class As, the whole 0.5 mV/m contour area within the land area of the country of origin is protected. There is also the 20:1 D/U ratio which may be in place between WINS and CFRB. It would be impossible to completely protect CFRB to 25 uV/m with WINS so close and so powerful. Also, there's a fairly large arc wihich cannot be completely protected by a single null, or even a double or more null design. There's usually another null or two necesary to protect the whole arc. The standard pattern comes into play under treaty, for which the absolute minimum would be 70.7 mV/m inverse field at one kilometer.

WITL was just allowed around 10 watts at night with it's three tower array near Lansing, MI, based on the 25 uV/m 10% skywave criteria. That's one of the reasons they gave up on the AM. So I know there's no way CFRB is fully protected by a 50 kW with a four tower array so close by.
 
Schroedingers Cat said:
WITL was just allowed around 10 watts at night with it's three tower array near Lansing, MI, based on the 25 uV/m 10% skywave criteria. That's one of the reasons they gave up on the AM. So I know there's no way CFRB is fully protected by a 50 kW with a four tower array so close by.
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Correct - and that's why WINS and CFRB (with the cooperation of the State Department and the relevant Canadian authorities) worked out a mutual-interference agreement in the 1990s that allowed both stations to rebuild their arrays to send more power in each other's direction. The additional interference to CFRB shows up far to the east of Toronto, outside the local market, and the additional interference to WINS happens way upstate, far outside the NYC market.

WINS went from a short four-tower inline array to a much taller and more efficient four-tower parallelogram. It's still not a great signal in the nulls (I have a lot of trouble with it in Rockland County, 25 miles or so from NYC to the northwest), but it's better than it was.
 
Scott Fybush said:
WINS went from a short four-tower inline array to a much taller and more efficient four-tower parallelogram. It's still not a great signal in the nulls (I have a lot of trouble with it in Rockland County, 25 miles or so from NYC to the northwest), but it's better than it was.
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My own non-scientific observation from dozens of business trips to southern Ontario during the past 20-odd years....

CFRB gets out remarkably well. 

At least in the areas they care about, and also in a few areas they may not.  I use the word "remarkably" in light of the issues with blowtorch WINS on the channel not all that far away, and the less-than-ideal (but by no means bad) dial position and the local ground conductivity. 

The other leading AM signals in the market are arguably CFZM and CFTR.  CFRB holds its own with both of those.  WINS can sometimes become a nighttime pest outside of the immediate metro. But CFRB is "strong enough, long enough" for adequate coverage.  That's true even to the east, where the main nighttime lobe basically hugs the shore of lake Ontario.

(Although, I have to say I'm unclear why there's a narrow but rather severe daytime null directly to the west.  I don't think they were trying to protect WITL!)
 
Darth, I would imagine that would be CBR and probably intermod or images from local stations [like KKA...I meant KKOV, and KPAM.]

Here in Bellevue, WA I get nothing days [maybe KOOR on a winter day? Haven't confirmed] and at night I hear CBR Calgary, AB [CBC Radio One]. Sometimes KIHU-UT leaves their critical hours on and illegally rides the skywave.

-crainbebo
 
SW Ohio

Days
WCSI Columbus IN - Weak.

SRS/SSS
WGUN Atlanta

Night
CFRB Toronto - The usual signal.
WINS NYC - Much weaker than CFRB.
 
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