About when would you estimate the winter daytime skywave factor should be completely gone, radioman148? (For example, you, at the touch-down zone for the 70-80% angle radiation of a QRSS CW transmission (in the AM BCB) with several megawatts of ERP in your direction, and theoretically assuming there was no groundwave, no interference from other sources, and a dit length of, say, 10-15 minutes, could not detect any trace of a carrier even with the best receiving equipment available.)