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Am station with the largest night land coverage?

Wouldn't any station located near the coast like WBZ (Boston) be automatially "disqualified" since as lot of the signal is lost to the NE E and SE over water? Wouldn't the playing field, so to speak, be narrowed down stations at least 400-500 mi from the oceans or gulf? I dunno- I'm kinda new at this. On my drive to western kansas in July, I received KOA 850 in eastern Ohio and westward daily as well as WBAP 820. Since I receive WBBM-780 consistently here in Mass received it in Fla and while in Western Kansas, that station may not be the winner but it should rank up there.
 
vibe said:
Wouldn't any station located near the coast like WBZ (Boston) be automatially "disqualified" since as lot of the signal is lost to the NE E and SE over water? Wouldn't the playing field, so to speak, be narrowed down stations at least 400-500 mi from the oceans or gulf? I dunno- I'm kinda new at this. On my drive to western kansas in July, I received KOA 850 in eastern Ohio and westward daily as well as WBAP 820. Since I receive WBBM-780 consistently here in Mass received it in Fla and while in Western Kansas, that station may not be the winner but it should rank up there.

WBZ nulls its eastbound signal over the Atlantic Ocean in order to boost its ERP in all other directions. It's one of two clear-channel signals - WWL/870 in New Orleans being the other - that is directional by choice in order not to waste signal over water.
 
rbrucecarter5 said:
And lets not forget that 530 in the Turks and Caicos. Lack of other stations on the frequency make that 40kW 530 receivable a lot of places. Darn - I was just in LA and should have tried it out there!
In the Chicago area I used to get CJFT "Stereo 53" out of Fort Erie, ON every night until they vacated that frequency in the mid-1990s. Now I get Radio Visión Cristiana on 530 quite regularly just south of Chicago. But, wasn't R. Visión Cristiana actually on 535 for a while? When did they move to 530?
 
I didn't consider WWL in this discussion because of their location but if they send out most of their power over land, just like WBZ in Boston, they would have to be a strong contender. It's received like a local many nights in MA, it came in very well in Western Kansas etc. With a realatively low dial position could we have a 'winner" here?
 
KFI, Los Angeles at AM 640 is the farthest catch I have ever made on MW in Chicago. This was over 20 years ago, before the clears were watered down, but at 1900 to 2000 miles I still give them the title.
Most of the 50kw stations in Chicago claim 38 states coverage, and I doubt KFI ever could make that claim.
 
vibe said:
I didn't consider WWL in this discussion because of their location but if they send out most of their power over land, just like WBZ in Boston, they would have to be a strong contender. It's received like a local many nights in MA, it came in very well in Western Kansas etc. With a realatively low dial position could we have a 'winner" here?

WWL is the only station that I have heard in places as different as California, New England and Canada. It's another good candidate.

Don't count out WBZ - comes in fine in Maine at night too, and that's northeast of the tx. Pretty impressive coverage. They sound better at night than during the day (locally), as they shut off the HD hashmaker at night. During the day, their audio quality is flat and awful.

FWIW, I've also picked up some oddballs when dxing in Central America: WCKY 1530 Cincinatti in eastern Costa Rica, KOA Denver, WHAS Louisville, and WDAE 620 (a 5,000 watt directional) from the Tampa Bay area in Nicaragua. All on a Walkman with no special equipment. In the case of KOA, Managua is pretty far from Denver!
 
WDAE is kinda surprising. You wouldn't think for a 5kW directional that they'd get out that far, but I've picked them up as far away as Greensboro, NC. Picking them up from Nicaragua is even more surprising, but I don't doubt it for a second.
 
Josh C. said:
WDAE is kinda surprising.  You wouldn't think for a 5kW directional that they'd get out that far, but I've picked them up as far away as Greensboro, NC.  Picking them up from Nicaragua is even more surprising, but I don't doubt it for a second.

Not all that surprising. All depends on conditions, how crowded the channel is, and how your location lines up with the DA.  A couple of examples of 5KW "regulars".... 

The old KXOK from St. Louis....frequent in the Fla. Panhandle on 630.  WIND in Chicago nightly overpowering WEBC on 560 in northern Minnesota.  This sort of stuff happens all the time.
 
Sorry to bump this thread, but what about CKRM 620 in Regina, SK? Has anybody mentioned them yet?

I heard them from Southern Michigan last night. A good 1100 miles away. An impressive catch, just 73 miles shy of my North American AM distance record.
 
Maybe off topic but KMOX 1120 won't be doing the Cardinals games anymore. They are receiveable in central Conn/cental Mass even w/ a strong 1130 in NYC nearby. KMOX from what I understand used to advertise or tout the fact they were receivable in 38 states and most of Canada.
 
I'm new to this board not as knowledgeable as 99.95% of the posters but what the he double hockey sticks is WWV?
 
Are we counting shortwave stations? Why not count internet audio streaming?

But if we are counting shortwave, my understanding is that WWV runs 10KW. There are some shortwave behemoths out there that run far more than that. WWCR comes to mind, as does WYFR and WEWN. And there are several others. These are basically religious broadcasters and.... and unlike WWW, I believe they typically use directional antennas.

Then, of course, there are the Voice of America shortwave xmtrs.
 
Topic is AM. WWV is Amplitude Modulated broadcasting.

Streaming is not AM.

Good point about VOA.
 
Point taken about streaming. I was being tongue in cheek, but you're absolutely right. But since we're counting shortwave (which does fit the definition of A.M.), the debate sort of becomes a comparison of WWV, which is relatively low powered, versus the big commercial and VOA blowtorches....which I'd think would be primarily directional.

Let me put it this way, I've never heard WWV outside North America. I've heard WYFR and WRMI in Europe like they're coming from across the street! Also WWCR, if memory serves. VOA? I'm not sure if we can count that, since they have xmitter sites all over the globe. I've certainly heard them with powerhouse signals overseas, but not sure where those signals were originating.
 
I am in Maryland, and the best I can do, at night, is WHO 1040 Des Moines and WWL New Orleans - for some reason 700 WLW is sparatic. I would vote for WHO, in the East.
 
I read on some web site that WHO had the largest night land coverage in the U.S. It makes sense because it is close to the middle of the country. It doesn't come in Mass as there are very strong 1030 (Bos) and 1050 (NYC). It came in quite well from cental PA to Western Kansas at night as I play around w/ the AM part of the radio when driving at night. Can it be received in on the left coast at night?
 
Vibe...

There are now several stations operating on or adjacent to 1040 making WHO a somewhat problematic catch on the West Coast. However, back in the 80s, I recall hearing it at least semi-regularly on my trips to Southern California.
 
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