I listened to a BOTH newscast from the new America's Radio News and was shocked how badly produced and amateurish it sounded. From whatever broom closet the network does its newscasts, it sounds like a garage or college radio station....lots of room reverb and the anchor is not close enough to the microphone.
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America's Radio News
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sdwulfdawg said:I listened to a BOTH newscast from the new America's Radio News and was shocked how badly produced and amateurish it sounded. From whatever broom closet the network does its newscasts, it sounds like a garage or college radio station....lots of room reverb and the anchor is not close enough to the microphone.
Well at least big cities like San Francisco or NYC don't have local stations that carry all-news from America's radio News I know WINK from FLorida is the only market I know of that carries this.
I believe the Network is (Talk Radio Network)? Same as for "Laura Ingram" "Jerry Doyle", and "Michael Savage"
With those shows, and you all saying this News Format sounds bad, really surprise me a lot
With those shows, and you all saying this News Format sounds bad, really surprise me a lot
LAUROJRM said:I believe the Network is (Talk Radio Network)? Same as for "Laura Ingram" "Jerry Doyle", and "Michael Savage"
With those shows, and you all saying this News Format sounds bad, really surprise me a lot
I guess its good for smaller markets that don't have a local all-news radio format I say the America's radio news is good for them. But if this all-news format by America News Network aired in NYC, LA, SFO, DC and Chicago then it would be considered lame. The reason these big cities would provide better anchors and reporters than the one provided here.
http://www.americasradionewsnetwork.com/newsletter
The ARNN plans to have a second feed for its all news operations.
The ARNN plans to have a second feed for its all news operations.
Several factors would cause America's Radio News to tank in markets with an actual all-news heritage:
1. The conservative slant, which they deny but which is obvious and limits them to half the potential audience at best.
2. The story count -- lots of time, sometimes entire segments, wasted on individual cable-news style "talking point" stories that don't translate well to radio, meaning less info being pushed through the pipeline.
3. Lack of local content. Even the best affiliates (WWBA in Tampa is supposedly among the ARNN "elite") have only limited newsgathering capability.
ARNN's only possibility of success is in areas where people have never heard a WCBS-WINS-KYW-WBBM-KCBS-KNX-WTOP type station and don't know any better.
1. The conservative slant, which they deny but which is obvious and limits them to half the potential audience at best.
2. The story count -- lots of time, sometimes entire segments, wasted on individual cable-news style "talking point" stories that don't translate well to radio, meaning less info being pushed through the pipeline.
3. Lack of local content. Even the best affiliates (WWBA in Tampa is supposedly among the ARNN "elite") have only limited newsgathering capability.
ARNN's only possibility of success is in areas where people have never heard a WCBS-WINS-KYW-WBBM-KCBS-KNX-WTOP type station and don't know any better.
smedge2006 said:Several factors would cause America's Radio News to tank in markets with an actual all-news heritage:
1. The conservative slant, which they deny but which is obvious and limits them to half the potential audience at best.
2. The story count -- lots of time, sometimes entire segments, wasted on individual cable-news style "talking point" stories that don't translate well to radio, meaning less info being pushed through the pipeline.
3. Lack of local content. Even the best affiliates (WWBA in Tampa is supposedly among the ARNN "elite") have only limited newsgathering capability.
ARNN's only possibility of success is in areas where people have never heard a WCBS-WINS-KYW-WBBM-KCBS-KNX-WTOP type station and don't know any better.
The ARNN will fail in big OTA markets with a local all-news radio station that Merlin, Cumulus and CBS has. But the next part is that NBC's NIS service tried this national all-news service back in the 1970s and that failed.
How can stations with the ARNN affiliations cross promote with a local TV station or a TV network? by borrowing staff members from Local TV stations and TV networks to appear on ARNN.
I know the Cumulus "News and Information" stations do cross promote themselves with an ABC TV affiliate by borrowing reporters from there. the Prime example would be for KGO-AM (Cumulus owned) to borrow people from KGO-TV (Disney Owned) to appear on the KGO-AM news for segments. Or for staff members from CBS TV O&O to appear on all-news CBS radio O&O's like staff members from KPIX-TV in SFO to do segments for KCBS-AM 740 and 106.9 in SFO.
I know the Cumulus "News and Information" stations do cross promote themselves with an ABC TV affiliate by borrowing reporters from there. the Prime example would be for KGO-AM (Cumulus owned) to borrow people from KGO-TV (Disney Owned) to appear on the KGO-AM news for segments. Or for staff members from CBS TV O&O to appear on all-news CBS radio O&O's like staff members from KPIX-TV in SFO to do segments for KCBS-AM 740 and 106.9 in SFO.
This seems to be an obsession on your part, but cross-promotion with TV is no cure-all. Especially if you're the typical ARNN station with nothing of your own to promote. The ARNN affiliate in Tampa has had a cross-promotion deal with the local CBS affiliate for nearly a year now. Most of the ARNN stations have few or no local employees, and the TV station is not going to want to donate a chunk of its time to the former conservative-talk-hosts and K Street activists who are now the "no agenda news anchors" at ARNN in Washington.
smedge2006 said:This seems to be an obsession on your part, but cross-promotion with TV is no cure-all. Especially if you're the typical ARNN station with nothing of your own to promote. The ARNN affiliate in Tampa has had a cross-promotion deal with the local CBS affiliate for nearly a year now. Most of the ARNN stations have few or no local employees, and the TV station is not going to want to donate a chunk of its time to the former conservative-talk-hosts and K Street activists who are now the "no agenda news anchors" at ARNN in Washington.
True, I also wonder if they will make the same mistakes like NIS. Remember NBC owned NIS they did national news and international news in the 1970's but they failed to produce ratings for NBC News Radio (now owned by Dial Global).
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Why can't Dial Global reprise NBC News Radio as NBC NIS again? I missed out on hearing NBC NIS
service back in the '70's.
service back in the '70's.
Radio1360 said:Why can't Dial Global reprise NBC News Radio as NBC NIS again? I missed out on hearing NBC NIS
service back in the '70's.
Well Dial Global could do a turn-key simulcast of MSNBC or CNBC TV for areas that don't have all-news radio or even compete in areas that do have the ARNN affiliation if thats possible. I remember Westwood one (Dial Global) did carry CNN Radio and HLN as a turn-key operation from the 1980's to 2012 in some markets until the end. The only all-news station that carries NBC News Radio is KLIV San Jose but they NBC News radio at the TOH and they are an EX CNN Radio affiliate. KLIV tends to insert more national and San Jose Community news over KCBS and KGO where they tend to focus on San Francisco, Oakland and San Jose would appear mostly on the Business sections of their newscasts.
I was a big fan of NBC's NIS network. The sounders, the voices, the whole package. I thought it was very well done, but it barely lasted two years. Americas News Network sounds OK, especially when augmented with local content. With so many syndicated talk stations, I really miss having an all news station to listen to when I'm in an area without the format.
I wish NBC would consider something similar to NIS to run today. I guess it was really ahead of it's time.
I wish NBC would consider something similar to NIS to run today. I guess it was really ahead of it's time.
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Yes, Dial Global should consider it. The all-news format is growing again.benale said:I was a big fan of NBC's NIS network. The sounders, the voices, the whole package. I thought it was very well done, but it barely lasted two years. Americas News Network sounds OK, especially when augmented with local content. With so many syndicated talk stations, I really miss having an all news station to listen to when I'm in an area without the format.
I wish NBC would consider something similar to NIS to run today. I guess it was really ahead of it's time.
Radio1360 said:Yes, Dial Global should consider it. The all-news format is growing again.benale said:I was a big fan of NBC's NIS network. The sounders, the voices, the whole package. I thought it was very well done, but it barely lasted two years. Americas News Network sounds OK, especially when augmented with local content. With so many syndicated talk stations, I really miss having an all news station to listen to when I'm in an area without the format.
I wish NBC would consider something similar to NIS to run today. I guess it was really ahead of it's time.
Dial Global should do a test run for NIS for KLIV 1590 in San Jose before doing other markets since KLIV is already the all-news station with the NBC affiliation.
NBC Dial Global cannot run NIS in large markets where Cumulus, Merlin, CBS or even Hubbard are competing together. NBC Radio can do this in markets where ARNN is planning to expand their market. But the difference between ARNN and this new NIS is that NBC's Dial Global operation can cross promote it with MSNBC and local NBC TV stations. on the other hand ARNN cannot cross promote their product on tv.
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Radio1360
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I've been listening to ARNN long form news on WFCO-AM 1160 (Forest Park, south of Atlanta) and it needs a little a little adjusting.
1. News does starts at 6 past the hour (following CBS News on WCFO on the hour), that's good.
2. A hard break should come at exactly 13 past the hour, not a "floating break".
3. Have either a sports or stock market update at :15 past the hour (running 2 or 3 minutes), not cram 7 minutes of commercials. That's reminiscent of what the now-defunct Sports Fan Radio Network once did back in the 90's (with them, it was 5 minutes of ads at 15 past the hour).
4. Have the regular feature (an sort of NPR-like talk segment) after the second hard break (at :21 past the hour) until 28:50 past hour.
5. Extend news at bottom of the hour from 1 minute to 4 minutes. As for the rest, the mirror opposite of suggestions 1 thru 4. This should be done for both the "afternoon edition" (3-6 PM EDT) and "the drive home" (6-9 PM EDT)
6: Have a weekend service. Many stations will carry it depending on other programing comments
(Sport Coverage, Church Service, and Public Affairs Shows).
1. News does starts at 6 past the hour (following CBS News on WCFO on the hour), that's good.
2. A hard break should come at exactly 13 past the hour, not a "floating break".
3. Have either a sports or stock market update at :15 past the hour (running 2 or 3 minutes), not cram 7 minutes of commercials. That's reminiscent of what the now-defunct Sports Fan Radio Network once did back in the 90's (with them, it was 5 minutes of ads at 15 past the hour).
4. Have the regular feature (an sort of NPR-like talk segment) after the second hard break (at :21 past the hour) until 28:50 past hour.
5. Extend news at bottom of the hour from 1 minute to 4 minutes. As for the rest, the mirror opposite of suggestions 1 thru 4. This should be done for both the "afternoon edition" (3-6 PM EDT) and "the drive home" (6-9 PM EDT)
6: Have a weekend service. Many stations will carry it depending on other programing comments
(Sport Coverage, Church Service, and Public Affairs Shows).
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Radio1360
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Had to change a small error.Radio1360 said:I've been listening to ARNN long form news on WFCO-AM 1160 (Forest Park, south of Atlanta) and it needs a little adjusting.
1. News does starts at 6 past the hour (following CBS News on WCFO on the hour), that's good.
2. A hard break should come at exactly 13 past the hour, not a "floating break".
3. Have either a sports or stock market update at :15 past the hour (running 2 or 3 minutes), not cram 7 minutes of commercials. That's reminiscent of what the now-defunct Sports Fan Radio Network once did back in the 90's (with them, it was 5 minutes of ads at 15 past the hour).
4. Have the regular feature (an sort of NPR-like talk segment) after the second hard break (at :21 past the hour) until 28:50 past hour.
5. Extend news at bottom of the hour from 1 minute to 4 minutes. As for the rest, the mirror opposite of suggestions 1 thru 4. This should be done for both the "afternoon edition" (3-6 PM EDT) and "the drive home" (6-9 PM EDT)
6: Have a weekend service. Many stations will carry it depending on other programing comments
(Sport Coverage, Church Service, and Public Affairs Shows).
Radio1360 said:Had to change a small error.Radio1360 said:I've been listening to ARNN long form news on WFCO-AM 1160 (Forest Park, south of Atlanta) and it needs a little adjusting.
1. News does starts at 6 past the hour (following CBS News on WCFO on the hour), that's good.
2. A hard break should come at exactly 13 past the hour, not a "floating break".
3. Have either a sports or stock market update at :15 past the hour (running 2 or 3 minutes), not cram 7 minutes of commercials. That's reminiscent of what the now-defunct Sports Fan Radio Network once did back in the 90's (with them, it was 5 minutes of ads at 15 past the hour).
4. Have the regular feature (an sort of NPR-like talk segment) after the second hard break (at :21 past the hour) until 28:50 past hour.
5. Extend news at bottom of the hour from 1 minute to 4 minutes. As for the rest, the mirror opposite of suggestions 1 thru 4. This should be done for both the "afternoon edition" (3-6 PM EDT) and "the drive home" (6-9 PM EDT)
6: Have a weekend service. Many stations will carry it depending on other programing comments
(Sport Coverage, Church Service, and Public Affairs Shows).
ARNN more interested in Political news.
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Radio1360
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Yes, that seems to the norm with NIS and News-Talk stations these days. Whether it's an election year or not.recto101 said:Radio1360 said:Had to change a small error.Radio1360 said:I've been listening to ARNN long form news on WFCO-AM 1160 (Forest Park, south of Atlanta) and it needs a little adjusting.
1. News does starts at 6 past the hour (following CBS News on WCFO on the hour), that's good.
2. A hard break should come at exactly 13 past the hour, not a "floating break".
3. Have either a sports or stock market update at :15 past the hour (running 2 or 3 minutes), not cram 7 minutes of commercials. That's reminiscent of what the now-defunct Sports Fan Radio Network once did back in the 90's (with them, it was 5 minutes of ads at 15 past the hour).
4. Have the regular feature (an sort of NPR-like talk segment) after the second hard break (at :21 past the hour) until 28:50 past hour.
5. Extend news at bottom of the hour from 1 minute to 4 minutes. As for the rest, the mirror opposite of suggestions 1 thru 4. This should be done for both the "afternoon edition" (3-6 PM EDT) and "the drive home" (6-9 PM EDT)
6: Have a weekend service. Many stations will carry it depending on other programing comments
(Sport Coverage, Church Service, and Public Affairs Shows).
ARNN more interested in Political news.
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