An open question on station formats...

[jakej]

Certain religious sectors have successfully stolen and distorted the meaning of the the word "family" to suit their own purposes, just as some gay activists did on a much-smaller scale with "queer." Is "education" the next word to have its meaning twisted to fit one group's narrow view? That would be an even bigger theft than "family."

That's okay, it works both ways, and when "Yesterday's Top Secrets" gets on the air we secularists are going to take sweet revenge. "You say you want some revelations? Well it all starts right here right now, Revelationary Music on Revelationary Radio, featuring oldies from your Musical Bible's Old Testament and new wave from its New."

I've been debating over the past few days whether or not to post a list of my Top Ten "Top Secrets" Station Candidates, and if I do, lunatic operations like WHKC, WRFD, and WUFM will be in a huge tie for 10th. (Sorry, just kidding about the "lunatic" part. Maybe.) Part of me says yeah, put the thing together, Tim, it'd be fun, but another part of me says nah, why bother, stations like 'YTS and 'TDA and 'ODB and 'WCD don't want you, they don't want the music, they'd rather see their ratings and revenues remain pathetic, so more power to them. I mean, when someone's as determined to fail as these outfits are, it becomes very difficult to stop them. All you can do is smile, pat them on the back, and tell them how richly they're going to deserve every bit of the misery that's going to continue to come their way.

 

[Nu_Roo_2]

Maybe with those stations hovering around 10th place, you could get further by pitching it as "Yesterday's Top Educational Secrets for the Whole Family."

 

[jakej]

I like it, I like it!!! WVKO-AM is seeking volunteers and my station will be, too, so I hope you consider stepping up to our plate, Nu, and giving generously of your time and talent. Would twenty or so hours a week be too much to ask? You're right about the emphasis on the family, as our hymns from the '60s, '70s, and '80s will offer something for everybody, and there won't be any bad words in any of them because truly good music doesn't have to rely on Satan-inspired, potty-mouthed verbal filth to make its message entertaining. Mommy and Daddy will be quite comfortable listening to everything with the kiddies, as together they huddle around the home computer and google Crispy Ambulance (which is where the "educational" angle of our programming comes in -- our listeners will hear our many inspirational bands and then naturally be inspired to learn more about them).
It's funny to hear (not hear) what words get hacked out of aired songs on Radio Xerox and other stations today; man, if I had to butcher a tune like that, I wouldn't even play it to begin with!

 

[Nu_Roo_2]

   I like it, I like it!!! WVKO-AM is seeking volunteers and my station will be, too, so I hope you consider stepping up to our plate, Nu, and giving generously of your time and talent. Would twenty or so hours a week be too much to ask?

Sure Tim, you can ask, but right now I'm afraid I'm coming up short on both t & t.  (Oops can I say that on Yesterday's Top Educational Secrets for the Whole Family?  Or is it too close to t & a?  Nah...I guess it cold mean time & temperature, too.)

You're right about the emphasis on the family, as our hymns from the '60s, '70s, and '80s will offer something for everybody, and there won't be any bad words in any of them because truly good music doesn't have to rely on Satan-inspired, potty-mouthed verbal filth to make its message entertaining. Mommy and Daddy will be quite comfortable listening to everything with the kiddies, as together they huddle around the home computer and google Crispy Ambulance (which is where the "educational" angle of our programming comes in -- our listeners will hear our many inspirational bands and then naturally be inspired to learn more about them).

Wow, nice description!  I feel comfortable already!  Who needs that 'ol easy chair?  Bring on the inspirational sounds of Crispy Ambulance.  (On a serious note, it's only fair to point out that inspirational is one word that being used relatively responsibly, i.e., no attempts to narrow the meaning, which has always included a spiritual interpretation among others.  Of course, what inspires one may not inspire another.) 

   It's funny to hear (not hear) what words get hacked out of aired songs on Radio Xerox and other stations today; man, if I had to butcher a tune like that, I wouldn't even play it to begin with!

So true.  I can certainly see the need for some degree of blipping, but not the wholesale chopping going on today.  OK, it might make Popeil proud, but sometimes it seems so inconsistently applied.

 

[jakej]

Speaking of things "educational", of course there's another way in which "Yesterday's Top Secrets" will accomplish that beyond introducing its listeners to less-familiar bands like the Crispies. I probably should have suggested this before Christmas, but if anyone has a birthday coming up then tell your special someone that you'd really appreciate being given either All the Leaves Are Brown by The Mamas and the Papas or Zombie Heaven by The Zombies as a present. Both are multi-CD sets that include virtually everything ever recorded in the studio by those two groups, and therefore each of them includes the thirty or so songs from each band that will become a part of Yesterday's Top Secrets' thousands-strong playlist. So yes, our show/format will not only motivate our listeners to find out more about some groups that are perhaps unfamiliar to them, but it will also facilitate an even more fun and automatic kind of learning that will occur as all of our lesser-known songs by all of our better-known bands are excitedly aired and enjoyed. I mean come on, let's be honest -- do you know ANYONE who doesn't like Mama Cass and the Mamas and the Papas?!?! Or The Zombies??? I sure don't.
If it's not your birthday next week, then please consider going to your friendly neighborhood CD store yourself (or cross your fingers and stop by your library) and see about picking these two treasures up. I promise that they will immeasurably brighten your day. Yes, we all know "California Dreamin'" and "Monday, Monday", and we all know "She's Not There" and "Time of the Season" -- but The Mamas and the Papas and The Zombies and so many, many other groups from that magical era of the Sixties had so much more to offer than their hits, and you'll be doing yourself a HUGE favor by finding that out if you don't know it already. Of course both bands will be Featured Artists on "Yesterday's Top Secrets", and during their special weeks in the sun the pairings will be The Zombies + Xymox, and The Mamas and the Papas + The Monochrome Set.
Hey, speaking of the Set, it's pop-quiz time: in which U.S. city did that UK band's singer first perform after the Monochromes broke up during the mid-Eighties? If you guessed Columbus, then you'd be right! It happened in 2005, a full twenty-three years after the fellow had last set foot on an American stage, which was in New York City in 1982. And here's another tidbit -- as some of you may know, The Police are coming to town, and it will mark the first time since 1979 that they have played here. The question I pose is this -- what does that tell you about how far ahead of the game Columbus was, way back then? How many other cities of our size (or even bigger) do you think completely missed the boat on the band that early on in their career and were not made a part of that tour? And did you know that we were given "sneak peeks" by lots of other groups as well? Did you know that U2, for example, played Columbus not once but twice during the very early formative stages of their career, and that The Offense published interviews with the band that were conducted during each of those two visits?!
So if you're down-and-out about what you perceive as present-day snubbings of our fair city, then at least take pride in the stature that we once enjoyed, and in the stature that we can enjoy once again. We were once a very important part of the musical community, twenty and thirty years ago, and we can become a very important part of it once more. We can become a programming leader in this nation instead of a programming follower. We can show off with pride our very own format, a format that is all-original instead of all-copy, and we can so very easily have the wide-ranging and jaw-dropping brilliance of the songs of "Yesterday's Top Secrets" on the air for us all to enjoy -- but first we have to have a broadcasting company that decides it is more interested in exploring new ideas than it is in repeating old ones. With apologies to Mr. Obama, this doesn't necessarily have to be a case of the future vs. the past, but together we can instead enjoy a future that has a new way of looking at and appreciating the past. Folks, the train of revolution is stopping here in Columbus, and everyone is more than welcome to climb aboard with me. Revolutionary Music on Revolutionary Radio -- together you and I can make it happen! Yes we can!! Yes we can!!!

Yes we can.

 

[LocalGuy]

We were once a very important part of the musical community, twenty and thirty years ago, and we can become a very important part of it once more. We can become a programming leader in this nation instead of a programming follower. We can show off with pride our very own format, a format that is all-original instead of all-copy, and we can so very easily have the wide-ranging and jaw-dropping brilliance of the songs of "Yesterday's Top Secrets" on the air for us all to enjoy -- but first we have to have a broadcasting company that decides it is more interested in exploring new ideas than it is in repeating old ones.

What we have here is a serious generational problem: like all that are heading toward old age and the end of life, yours is trying desperately to voluntarily relive its youth before involuntarily becoming no more influential than a youth. Your idea isn't new - it is a repetition of the old, but in an even worse package! The companies are not at fault when they reject what they know for an absolute fact will not ever work anywhere at anytime.

If you've actually presented this delusional idea and not been laughed out of the room, you've been fortunate and have been used for the entertainment and relief of stress of the broadcasters who were probably looking for a quick diversion. It's absurd how people here humor you. It's most likely a joke with you as the subject, and, for your own sake, you should stop giving them the fuel for the fire.

I mean come on, let's be honest -- do you know ANYONE who doesn't like Mama Cass and the Mamas and the Papas?!?! Or The Zombies???

Yes, I most certainly do - everyone I know.

Seriously, I don't know a single person who does like them. No, not even my parents.

 

[CatFM]

It has bothered me for a long time that the FCC ever exempted "NCE" FM stations from some of the same rules that were imposed on commercial stations. When there was still an ownership cap that limited the number of stations that could be owned by any one company, for some reason the FCC decided to allow NCE stations to be exempt from that limitation. Additionally, NCE stations were and are exempt from the regulation that applies to translators in regard to satellites. NCE broadcasters are allowed to receive signals from satellite for translators, but commerical broadcasters may not. Only signals received directly off the air can be used for commercial translators. As a result of the capability of NCE stations to apply for and build translators all over the country and feed them with satellite signals, they have been allowed to create huge networks. I can understand why commercial stations have never been allowed to do that, and I fully support that decision, but it seems grossly unfair to allow NCE broadcasters to do the same thing just because they are non-commercial.

 

[skippertthomas]

Sean is a friend who I would lay down in the road for.. As ANY person.. That's the message of caring and loving.. It does not mean I agree.. I have areas of "SIN" and I can say men die on this relm, but the Truth is constant.. If we were perfect "Followers of The Way" or Christians, as we were labled by the world in Antioch,
We would have no need for what Jesus did.....We all need him.. Saved or lost.. Alot of Christian radio has turned a blind eye to two extremes... One does it partial to the "Hell Fire and Cost of Sin Side" and one to Jesus Loves You as you are (true, but will not like some of the things you and I do)... It's a full course of the penalty of 'missing the mark, but the "GOOD NEWS" of why he gave it up for us to be loved and in His eternity... We always grapple with extremes.. One to be relevant and one to be seperate.. This paradox is explained by the above.. Relevant for that sake, alone is a dead end.. Pushing the hard cider of sin without seeing the love sacrificed is 'stupid'.... I have friends who have come out, knowing the consequences of that.. I love them, but still think it's an issue of 'right and wrong', agree or disagree.. I will always love them, but can't support what they do... I have issues in my life, and all Believers do... We MUST seek our Salvation out daily and by the WORD and the SPIRIT, then I continue on this path... If I knew it all, at this point, then I'd be as smart as God.. I can't serve, love, follow a God as dumb as me..... Who moved?? Cutlure or God.. Always ask that question.. Alot has been done in this era to promote prosperity (via the dollar).. The more I study, prosperity is not the 'bling' but the things that make a full Christian life rewarding, fullfilling and fruitful, with no regrets.. Hypocrites?? Glad many are in Church, they might get the message there, where in the daily life they will not.... On the radio issue, good ones, so-so ones, and ones that make be cringe.. I pray that my observations are in check..... On the current political scene.. I would say from a media man of 30 plus years, that O'Bama's popularity is based on "SOMETHING NEW" and not a long seeded DC insider.. People are feed up in both camps and wish new leadership would take the charge of the two main parties.. The big long term winner (as Reagan was speaking at the '64 convention for Goldwater and Carter in '76 taking the his party to their past roots of the little guy), Ron Paul's movement is a future wave of under 40's that will be active as a new thinking group.. They are moral conservatives with a libertarian twist (not to force their moral convictions, but to present them for conscience)... They plan to have '33' candidates ready to run for Congress in the Republican primaries in 2010.. They might be the next wave, just a O'Bama is causing insider pain to the Clintons... I step back and look at it from a middle ground and just say what I see and not feel on that issue.... The forethcoming debates will be interesting between the Democrats.... That's from a guy that's worked in commercial, Christian and public radio-tv....

 

[Nu_Roo_2]

We were once a very important part of the musical community, twenty and thirty years ago, and we can become a very important part of it once more. We can become a programming leader in this nation instead of a programming follower. We can show off with pride our very own format, a format that is all-original instead of all-copy, and we can so very easily have the wide-ranging and jaw-dropping brilliance of the songs of "Yesterday's Top Secrets" on the air for us all to enjoy -- but first we have to have a broadcasting company that decides it is more interested in exploring new ideas than it is in repeating old ones.

What we have here is a serious generational problem: like all that are heading toward old age and the end of life, yours is trying desperately to voluntarily relive its youth before involuntarily becoming no more influential than a youth.

No, what we have is not a serious generational problem. What we have is one individual's serious lack of tact. If you don't like the idea, fine, but that's no call for going for the jugular. And if you think you're not quickly headed toward old age and the end of life yourself, think again. In fact, you come off sounding like, well, a bitter old man.

And regardless of whether jakej's idea would be a big success or an utter failure, you must have blinders on if you don't see how many youth today are into the music and other entertainment of previous generations.

You can resume drinking your vinegar cocktail now.

 

[Nu_Roo_2]

I probably should have suggested this before Christmas, but if anyone has a birthday coming up then tell your special someone that you'd really appreciate being given either All the Leaves Are Brown by The Mamas and the Papas

Thanks for the tip. I just ordered one for my self, and another as a birthday present for my 22-year-old niece who loves the Mamas & The Papas.

BTW, I think the M&P's most under-rated song ever was "12:30 (Young Girls Are Coming to the Canyon)" It was kind of a hit, but it hasn't been played on the radio for years. It's at once intense, melodic and bizarre ("I can't keep myself from talking..."my mind is shattered into fragments").

 

[jakej]

What we have here is a serious generational problem: like all that are heading toward old age and the end of life, yours is trying desperately to voluntarily relive its youth before involuntarily becoming no more influential than a youth. Your idea isn't new - it is a repetition of the old, but in an even worse package! The companies are not at fault when they reject what they know for an absolute fact will not ever work anywhere at anytime.

I was 24 years old when I began publishing my fanzine and bringing bands like the Pixies and Cocteau Twins into Columbus, and I was 33 when those involvements ended. These things did not happen during the years of my youth. Maybe that's partly why both efforts had such an impact on how our town was perceived by others at the time; I don't think I would've been able to accomplish nearly as much had I only been 10 or 11 when I started helping our local scene gain some national notoriety. No, LG, it's not me who has a generational problem -- it's the radio industry. Nu Roo is right, the generation gaps really aren't out there anymore, not to the degree that they used to be anyways, but the people in the industry don't want to hear about that, and they don't want to hear about a format that acknowledges this fact and entertainingly brings those generations even closer together because, in their imperial ignorance and as you so incisively write, "they reject what they know for an absolute fact will not ever work anywhere at anytime." I've been politely listened to by two program directors and turned away without a fair or unfair hearing by many, many more, and look at where they and a lot of their stations are today. Each time the ratings come out I feel as though I can rest my case, because the numbers always clearly and decisively make that case for me. So no, these people DON'T know it all, they only think that they do and act like they do, and unfortunately with the continuing revenue declines that are now pervasive throughout the radio business, no broadcasting company can afford (and/or is motivated enough) to undertake the real research that would reveal the TRUE facts to its executives.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot -- how can the specifics of "Yesterday's Top Secrets" possibly be considered to be a "repetition of the old"? HOW???!!! Man, if something like it already happened and was given a chance on the air, then I sure missed the boat and will be kicking myself for the rest of my life for not being aware of it and tuning in. (Of course, there's not much of my life left always, since as you point out I am so rapidly approaching old age and death.)

It's absurd how people here humor you. It's most likely a joke with you as the subject, and, for your own sake, you should stop giving them the fuel for the fire.

How long have you been following this board? Because for every friend or ally I have here, there's about twenty guys like you who take much delight in trying to rip me and my ideas to shreds. Well, okay, I admit -- they're not all EXACTLY like you!

I mean come on, let's be honest -- do you know ANYONE who doesn't like Mama Cass and the Mamas and the Papas?!?! Or The Zombies???

Yes, I most certainly do - everyone I know.

Seriously, I don't know a single person who does like them. No, not even my parents.

This is my most favorite part of your post. It explains a lot, and I thank you for sharing it with me.

 

[CatFM]

I probably should have suggested this before Christmas, but if anyone has a birthday coming up then tell your special someone that you'd really appreciate being given either All the Leaves Are Brown by The Mamas and the Papas

Thanks for the tip. I just ordered one for my self, and another as a birthday present for my 22-year-old niece who loves the Mamas & The Papas.

BTW, I think the M&P's most under-rated song ever was "12:30 (Young Girls Are Coming to the Canyon)" It was kind of a hit, but it hasn't been played on the radio for years. It's at once intense, melodic and bizarre ("I can't keep myself from talking..."my mind is shattered into fragments").

Excellent song...and, unfortunately, typical of a title most consultants would forbid stations to play because it didn't chart high enough...but we already went down that road in another posting.

 

[jakej]

The last time I did this was for the Carpenters, and now I'm going to reveal all of the Mamas and Papas' songs that would be included in the "Yesterday's Top Secrets" playlist. Nu, that's great that you've ordered a couple All The Leaves Are Brown's, and after hearing them please let me know what additions you and your niece would make to this list (and/or which selections you would remove!). Oh, and by the way, I'm not including the band's big hits because we already have our Big Hits station here in town if anyone wants to hear those two particular tunes for the ten thousandth time:

from If You Can Believe Your Eyes And Ears (1966) -- Straight Shooter / Got A Feelin' / I Call Your Name / Do You Wanna Dance / Go Where You Wanna Go / Somebody Groovy / Hey Girl / You Baby / The In Crowd

from The Mamas And The Papas (1966) -- No Salt On Her Tail / Trip, Stumble And Fall / Words Of Love / My Heart Stood Still / Dancing In The Street / I Saw Her Again / Strange Young Girls / I Can't Wait / Even If I Could / That Kind Of Girl / Once Was A Time I Thought

from Deliver (1967) -- Dedicated To The One I Love / My Girl / Creeque Alley / Sing For Your Supper / Twist And Shout / Look Through My Window / Frustration

from The Papas And The Mamas (1968) -- Safe In My Garden / For The Love Of Ivy / Dream A Little Dream Of Me / Mansions / Twelve Thirty (Young Girls Are Coming To The Canyon) / Rooms / Midnight Voyage

from a single in 1967 -- Glad To Be Unhappy

from People Like Us (1971, and not part of the Leaves collection) -- People Like Us / Shooting Star / Step Out / Grasshopper

Also included in our playlist would be "It's Getting Better" and "Make Your Own Kind Of Music" (solo Mama Cass Elliott numbers) and "The Achin' Kind" (recorded by Michelle Phillips).

The Mamas and the Papas, what a band, what an incredible, incredible band. I'm posting this right now from my "home library", the Upper Arlington Public Library at 2800 Tremont Road, and for any of you who might be interested, they do have two copies of All The Leaves Are Brown available for checkout. There's also some fun footage of the group that anyone anywhere in Central Ohio can access through youtube.com.

You know what REALLY helps to make The Mamas and the Papas so special to me? They're one of those bands, and groups like The Beatles and The Beach Boys are others, that you just know people would enjoy hearing ANYTHING from on the radio, even if it's a tune that they've never, ever heard before, simply because hey, come on -- IT'S THE MAMAS AND THE PAPAS!!! I mean, isn't it obvious how easily and how hugely successful the "Yesterday's Top Secrets" concept would be, especially when you think of groups like this, ones that are so instantly recognizable and likeable no matter WHAT they're singing?!?! I mean gosh, maybe I'm crazy, but who DOESN'T enjoy hearing Cass and John and Michelle and Denny???! (Who besides Local Guy and all of his friends and relatives, that is.) To put it simply, the music of All The Leaves Are Brown convinces me each and every time I hear it that I am ABSOLUTELY on the right track with "Yesterday's Top Secrets", and it becomes a show and a format and a dream that will never die, because all of the fantastic music that The Mamas and the Papas made, ALL of it, will never let it die. I'm not going to borrow anything from Barack Obama's speeches like I did in an earlier post (well, I'll try not to anyways!), but I listen to him talk about change and hope, and I hear him express his refreshingly optimistic can-do attitude, and it's all basically the same message that I've been trying to deliver (with regards to the music) to radio people and others for years. He's just a little bit more eloquent than I am, that's all! But the message is basically the same.

So I'd like to take this opportunity to thank radio-info for giving to me and everyone else this wonderful outlet, this wonderful way that we have of communicating with each other and expressing ourselves and our hopes and our dreams, and I'd like to thank all of you for putting up with my persistence and for all of the encouragement and discouragement that you have given me. Someday, we'll get the forty-two songs up there and thousands of others onto the air at our station; each one will get its day on Revolutionary Radio in which it's played six times within a 24-hour period and then not again for another two or three months, and the people of Central Ohio will find out just how infinitely preferable this system is compared to what we have instead today (again, I refer you to Big Hits as well as to Radio Xerox and all of the other stations that exhibit the same play-the-few-songs-to-death-that-our-consultants-approve-and-nothing-else mentality). Together, you and I can make Revolutionary Music on Revolutionary Radio happen. Together, you and I can change the corporate, locked-in-the-past mind-set, and together you and I can make our Central Ohio airwaves better for all. Yes, together you and I can make it happen! Yes we can! Yes we can!! Yes we can!!!

 

[jakej]

Hillary's "change you can xerox" comment during last night's debate was met with boos because the audience knew that the only xeroxing that's been going on happened when Clear Channel copied one of its Philadelphia stations and brought the resultant Radio Xerox Station here to us. The change that Barack and I are proposing has not been xeroxed from anyone else, and if anyone tries to xerox it off of us, it won't be able to be carried out nearly as effectively. It was ludicrous for her to suggest otherwise, and the audience realized that.

 

[skippertthomas]

Jake.. Enjoyed your response.. Looking at it from the middle ground and with no stained window eyeglasses.. I just think that folks and the common voters from both extremes are feed up with 'traditional' insiders.. Look at both the approval ratings for the Prez and the Congress... "How Low Can You Go???" I see Obama as something fresh, like Cater was in '76 and Reagan was in '80 to their supporters.. Every decade or two, the insiders lose their 'zeal' and 'trustfulness' to their supporting ideologies..... If the 'Beltway' Demos and Repubs had their way, Clinton and Romney would be squaring off.... But, the 'flyover' and the common voters of the east and west coasts are tired of the 'trubadours' of this ending era.... Look at Paul... He raises alot of young money on the net.. Won't get him in, but it sets up a wave of young candidates with a libertarian side of the Republican view in 2010.. They plan on running 33 candidates in congressional primaries in that cycle.. ???? 8)

 

[jakej]

Um ... I'm afraid that your confused smiley on the left is me and the rather hip-looking one on the right is you, Skipper, because at times you sort of, well, lose me a little bit with what you've written! But I do appreciate your support of "Yesterday's Top Secrets" (???), and speaking of candidates, okay, you've talked me into it -- my Top Ten "Top Secrets" Station Candidates list is going to gloriously appear as a new topic on this wonderful board next, uh, Wednesday. So stay tuned, everybody, and make sure that you post your feelings about which stations you think should be firmly lodged in its top spots NOW! (Yeah, I'm sure that all of you will do that, yeah, right, grumble, grumble.)
The only thing that might delay its publication is if I'm out on the campaign trail with Barack (I generally give a 30-minute speech about the music that really gets the crowd fired up right before he comes out), but I should be able to get it posted by next Wednesday.

 

[SportsRadioDoc]

Tim, I know the local PD's have been unresponsive to "Yesterday's Top Secrets". Have you pitched your format to PD's in other markets? This is something you are very passionate about, just because it may not work in C-Bus doesn't mean it wouldn't be a hit in Toledo, Syracuse, or Boca. Just a thought.

 

[JohnboyCrenshaw]

Doc:

I have been anything but "unresponsive". In fact, after taking in his presentation, I suggested several things: another market, HD2, Internet and public radio.

He merely didn't like my response.

JbC

 

[jakej]

Again, here's where I previously posted about why I'm not interested in Internet radio (fifth post down) --
http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,83702.msg633469.html#633469
I've discussed HD2 and public radio with certain PDs and GMs here and am certainly open to those possibilities. I am not interested in another market because we've got a special alternative heritage in this town that I'm proud to say I helped develop during the ten years of the 1980s (which has little to do with what CD101 thinks of as "alternative"), so no other city would appreciate to the same degree what I would bring to the table. Wait a minute, no one in the radio business here appreciates it, either -- what am I talking about?! Well, more importantly my parents live in Columbus, my brother and sister live here, my children live here, and I've lived here for all but six years of my life. Neither me nor my voice (unless it's a nationwide syndicated voice) is going anyplace else.
I hope to see you all at St. John Arena on Wednesday morning! Guess I'll have to get the Station Candidates list posted Tuesday night.

 

[xianbroadcaster]

"Yesterday's Top Secrets" sounds like a great product to put on HD or the Internet, still I understand how when we get in our minds eye EXACTLY what something is supposed to be it can be hard to "settle" for some other avenue...take a long look again, you can build a great audience through these mediums which are in no way a second class citizen to radio.

Let me know where and when you get things rolling.