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ANALYST: NETFLIX WOULD BE THE 15TH MOST POPULAR NETWORK

This doesn't surprise me, but it's not a fair comparison either. It would be number 1, except it IS behind a paywall, and the barrier to entry also involves having an internet connected device to your TV, and a broadband connection.

Where it isn't a fair comparison is that it has thousands of TV shows, and movies, all commercial free, and all available at the push of the button. No network, especially linear, can make that claim. I can't punch up ABC and ask them to start playing an episode of Lost from Season 1 at 3:53 on a Sunday afternoon. I do that very thing now with Netflix.

If internet access were free, Netflix was free, and TV's were internet enabled by default, we'd see this be easily number 1. But, then we'd also not be able to watch anything from 7PM - 10PM in most markets. ;)
 
mnradiofan said:
This doesn't surprise me, but it's not a fair comparison either. It would be number 1, except it IS behind a paywall, and the barrier to entry also involves having an internet connected device to your TV, and a broadband connection.

How does it compare with pay-cable services like HBO and Showtime?

Where it isn't a fair comparison is that it has thousands of TV shows, and movies, all commercial free, and all available at the push of the button. No network, especially linear, can make that claim. I can't punch up ABC and ask them to start playing an episode of Lost from Season 1 at 3:53 on a Sunday afternoon.

Not yet. Give it another year or two.
 
KeithE4 said:
mnradiofan said:
This doesn't surprise me, but it's not a fair comparison either. It would be number 1, except it IS behind a paywall, and the barrier to entry also involves having an internet connected device to your TV, and a broadband connection.

How does it compare with pay-cable services like HBO and Showtime?

Where it isn't a fair comparison is that it has thousands of TV shows, and movies, all commercial free, and all available at the push of the button. No network, especially linear, can make that claim. I can't punch up ABC and ask them to start playing an episode of Lost from Season 1 at 3:53 on a Sunday afternoon.

Not yet. Give it another year or two.

It would be a fair comparison to compare Netflix to Comcast. It is not a fair comparison to compare Netflix to any one network, pay or otherwise. For one, with Netflix, I have access to everything. Sure, I have limited access to stuff to stream instantly, but add the DVD's, and I literally have everything that has been out a year at my fingertips. This is similar to Comcast. With on-demand, I have access to quite a bit (more than Netflix actually), but with linear networks, I have access to EVERYTHING (depending on package).

I do believe Netflix has indeed passed Comcast for video subscribers. If they haven't passed them, they've gotten close. As far as how it compares to HBO or Showtime, it probably beats them, I don't have those numbers in front of me at the moment. But again, I can pay 10 bucks a month for JUST Showtime, or $8 a month for what Netflix offers (on hours of content, it beats Showtime, Quality is hit or miss)

And, I'm not smack talking on Netflix. I've been a sub now for almost 10 years, and I love it (DVD and Streaming). I also have a full cable subscription, as both offer me different things. Although, my cable subscription has been cut back on. I don't feel the need to pay for premium movie channels, outside of Showtime because I love their shows and don't want to wait a year for them to come out on DVD. Cable company will be raising rates (again) this year, so I'll be re-evaluating when my current promo is up in August. Netflix raised my rates too, but in the last 10 years, they've probably gone up the same percentage wise (and because my bill is so high already, a 5% increase amounts to the same increase that Netflix passed on last year, and I get them almost yearly at this point.)

Also, as far as "give it time" no single broadcast network is going to give me on demand access to every show from every network, or commercial free movies with the diversity that Netflix offers, ever. It isn't in the best interest of NBC to give me access to past seasons of ABC, CBS, Fox, etc. just as it isn't in the best interest of HBO to allow Showtime subscribers to offer past or current seasons of shows. I'd love to see the content owners ease up, and I long for a day when I can pick up a remote and literally have access to every show and movie ever made (I'd even pay to remove commercials) but I don't see it happening in the near term. Even Netflix is going to have to start making decisions in the next few years what it wants to keep and what it needs to dump because of costs. Look at Starz, if Netflix REALLY wanted to keep them, they would have named the right price, but they have to also keep the costs low for consumers.
 
I would have to argue that Netflix is more like a premium movie channel (HBO, Showtime). Netflix can only cover so much. Netflix doesn't carry sports or even news programming. When it comes to that day, then Netflix can be considered a competitor to an entire cable company. My guess would be that most Netflix subscribers also subscribe to cable or satellite television. Netflix should work along with cable companies, much like Dish Network and Blockbuster.
 
Agreed. I know people who are perfectly satisfied and happy with just Netflix
and whatever local stations they can get off an antenna. As a sports fan though
I would find that arrangement highly un-satisfying.
 
FreddyE1977 said:
Agreed. I know people who are perfectly satisfied and happy with just Netflix and whatever local stations they can get off an antenna. As a sports fan though I would find that arrangement highly un-satisfying.

The only time I miss having cable is for the college bowl games and regular-season basketball. March Madness is free, both via CBS and online. There are still plenty of good regular-season college football games available via CBS and ABC. I pay for MLB.TV, so I don't miss any games other than the blacked-out Diamondbacks (their problem, not mine) and ESPN Sunday night games. I don't care about the NBA anymore thanks to the lockout, and I'm not a big hockey fan. I prefer to watch the NFL in a bar.

But I don't mind listening to games on radio, either OTA or online. Now if only CBS Sports would quit ripping us off with their online package (the successor to Broadcast.com and Yahoo).
 
mnradiofan said:
This is similar to Comcast. With on-demand, I have access to quite a bit (more than Netflix actually), but with linear networks, I have access to EVERYTHING (depending on package).

Point well made and this is why Netflix will not overtake cable. ISP data caps. Comcast wants you to buy their on-demand, not get on-demand through Netflix. So do other services. The more profitable and used Netflix becomes the more and more capping you're going to see
 
ISP capping and calls for it to be regulated will be one of THE hot button political issues of the 2010's.

Do we have more important issues to deal with? Undoubtedly.
But I am predicting that this one is going to be big.
 
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