Clear Channel's 103.5 THE BEAT/WMIB Miami is pulling the plug on it's Urban format. From 7pm-12am tonight they're live in the mix. I guess Cox's 99 JAMZ/WEDR was right all this time. They've been using the positioner "South Florinda's Only Station for Hip-Hop and R&B" for a couple of years now. I don't see anyone in South Florida going Urban anytime soon. Cox wins by defualt as usual with 99 JAMZ and HOT 105. POWER 96 is still around, but they've gone back to the pop/rhythmic sound.
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...and the BEAT stops in M-I-A-YO!!
- Thread starter ShawtyBlack_ATL
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Wow, guess I thought I this might happen several months ago.
Scholarm1111 said:Wow, guess I thought I this might happen several months ago.
Honestly, Clear Channel had a fair chance to take on 99 JAMZ and POWER 96. WTF happened??? I must say once they decided to go from Urban to Urban AC back to Urban the music was all over the place.
Yeah, and another market where Cox unchallenged and allow their urban to sound like sh*t. Just see Birmingham with WBHJ "95.7 JAMZ". Prior to 2003, WEDR was still dayparted and little more diversified in song choices, but now UGH! If I visit South Florida again then I'll just listen to an internet stream of V-103 from here via my Zune HD wifi connection.
Miami has tons of Urban and Reggaeton pirates stations. I recall my trips down there during Memorial Day weekend and be shocked by the number of pirates I heard. One in particular I love is HOT 97.7 (www.hot977fmmiami.com), but the website hasn't been updated in a while.
ShawtyBlack_ATL said:Miami has tons of Urban and Reggaeton pirates stations. I recall my trips down there during Memorial Day weekend and be shocked by the number of pirates I heard. One in particular I love is HOT 97.7 (www.hot977fmmiami.com), but the website hasn't been updated in a while.
Uh, I'm talking about legit stations not pirates. I want to get the feel of the city from a station I don't have search for rather on already located on the terrestrial legitimate radio dial.
CC doesn't really care about Hip Hop that's been seen lately since killing KATZ in St Louis now WMIB. They're starting to feel that its not worth their effort if there is a competitor in town. CC is cookie cutting the format, putting sleepy steve on mornings when he belongs on urban Ac's and they wonder why mornings suck on hip hop stations when steve's on it. Its a Good-Ol Boy's company. Not sayin R1 is any better but to hell with CC's urbans. Im sick of being used.....
Word! said:CC doesn't really care about Hip Hop that's been seen lately since killing KATZ in St Louis now WMIB. They're starting to feel that its not worth their effort if there is a competitor in town. CC is cookie cutting the format, putting sleepy steve on mornings when he belongs on urban Ac's and they wonder why mornings suck on hip hop stations when steve's on it. Its a Good-Ol Boy's company. Not sayin R1 is any better but to hell with CC's urbans. Im sick of being used.....
KATZ essentially failed after CC moved Tony Scott from there to KMJM and replaced him with a cast of nobodies. Also after a series of programming mishaps, KATZ was doomed. However, CC has seemed to continued to do well in other major markets since most of those were already established and kept some sense of locality like WGCI Chicago, WJLB Detroit, KMEL San Francisco, and WUSL Philadelphia. WWPR New York is the only major market CC start up in the urban game that they built from the ground up and realized that it took locality to be successful there. It just seems like WMIB, CC didn't invest much because they thought if they piped in talent from NYC simulcasting it or syndication that South Florida would gobble it up. South Florida rejected them and continued to listen to WEDR since it is heritage urban with a recognizable brand "99 Jamz". It really depends on the market with CC, and saw after a decade that South Florida was a lost cause.
kilamanjero said:KATZ essentially failed after CC moved Tony Scott from there to KMJM and replaced him with a cast of nobodies. Also after a series of programming mishaps, KATZ was doomed. However, CC has seemed to continued to do well in other major markets since most of those were already established and kept some sense of locality like WGCI Chicago, WJLB Detroit, KMEL San Francisco, and WUSL Philadelphia. WWPR New York is the only major market CC start up in the urban game that they built from the ground up and realized that it took locality to be successful there. It just seems like WMIB, CC didn't invest much because they thought if they piped in talent from NYC simulcasting it or syndication that South Florida would gobble it up. South Florida rejected them and continued to listen to WEDR since it is heritage urban with a recognizable brand "99 Jamz". It really depends on the market with CC, and saw after a decade that South Florida was a lost cause.
Tony Scott was getting older, and i think he had a good run in the 90s on Majic 105 and I think that The Beat needed to be younger. Which they did...... after the stint of Kaos and Silly Asz and their screw up.... but CC didn't give Dee Lee a chance. His show was only on for 9 Months after Kaos was fired and then it was over with Sleepy Steve.
Detroit was established as a major player when CC took over, and WGCI fell once Kris came in and they put Sleepy Steve on it for a year. WGCI realized that local is the way to go in Chicago, so they are recovering, but no where near the quality standards that Elroy had set all those years.. yes im a Elroy hater, but he did build a solid team.
Its not the first time CC came into a market, with Urban, and then killed it quickly. But many reecent programming decisions with the format in many markets has shown they either dont know what they are doing or just dont care for the for mat no more.
Word! said:kilamanjero said:KATZ essentially failed after CC moved Tony Scott from there to KMJM and replaced him with a cast of nobodies. Also after a series of programming mishaps, KATZ was doomed. However, CC has seemed to continued to do well in other major markets since most of those were already established and kept some sense of locality like WGCI Chicago, WJLB Detroit, KMEL San Francisco, and WUSL Philadelphia. WWPR New York is the only major market CC start up in the urban game that they built from the ground up and realized that it took locality to be successful there. It just seems like WMIB, CC didn't invest much because they thought if they piped in talent from NYC simulcasting it or syndication that South Florida would gobble it up. South Florida rejected them and continued to listen to WEDR since it is heritage urban with a recognizable brand "99 Jamz". It really depends on the market with CC, and saw after a decade that South Florida was a lost cause.
Tony Scott was getting older, and i think he had a good run in the 90s on Majic 105 and I think that The Beat needed to be younger. Which they did...... after the stint of Kaos and Silly Asz and their screw up.... but CC didn't give Dee Lee a chance. His show was only on for 9 Months after Kaos was fired and then it was over with Sleepy Steve.
Detroit was established as a major player when CC took over, and WGCI fell once Kris came in and they put Sleepy Steve on it for a year. WGCI realized that local is the way to go in Chicago, so they are recovering, but no where near the quality standards that Elroy had set all those years.. yes im a Elroy hater, but he did build a solid team.
Its not the first time CC came into a market, with Urban, and then killed it quickly. But many reecent programming decisions with the format in many markets has shown they either dont know what they are doing or just dont care for the for mat no more.
Yeah, but sometimes even if somebody is getting older and can hold down the numbers then age is negligible. Just look at how long personalities like Donnie Simpson held on even though he was 55 when he retired from the young urban game, and up until 2 years ago dominated the DC mornings in ratings. Also Frank Ski in Atlanta on V-103 although he is 45, but #1 in the mornings in the 18-34 and 25-54 demographics. Then there is Ryan Cameron, who is around 40 as well, but #1 in afternoons in Atlanta. I think Tony Scott could have still done his thing until he or CC could have found an adequate replacement rather than ushering him to Urban AC because of age. I liked Dee Lee, but after being on WUSL (Power 99FM) and letting Wendy Williams steal his thunder with the "How U Doin" slogan (which he actually originated with a character he pretended to be back in the late 1990s on the Dream Team Morning Show), he wouldn't even have made much difference other than a show sidekick honestly on KATZ.
On the lack of direction of CC, I can agree. CC trainwrecked in my hometown of Birmingham when it took control of WENN after being dumped on an inferior signal. They kept tweaking the format every few months, but didn't opt to improve the signal's power until after dumping the mainstream urban format (which was the real problem not the programming). Then there is their failure in Atlanta, where the placed an urban on another weak signal and then kept tweaking the programming every few months (not allowing the listeners to get adjusted) then dumped it. CC's problem has always been their inability to invest in stations on full market signals, but WWPR was the exception to the rule since they did invest since is #1 market in the nation.
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