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And They're Off

November 9th. "Sunny with a high in the 60s today..." Uh, what's that? All Christmas on Star, followed by Joy.
 
Nothing makes me feel more "Christmassy" than listening to overplayed holiday music on a 70 degree day in November. Star's button just got reprogrammed to 102.9. Now I don't have to go to 102.5 and hit "scan" to see what "The Breeze" is up to.
 
JustPastBuffalo said:
November 9th. "Sunny with a high in the 60s today..." Uh, what's that? All Christmas on Star, followed by Joy.

And yet, the day after Christmas, they'll return to their normal formats, and you won't even know it's the holiday season. This is just so wrong. But it's all about the money. Advertisers want to attract holiday shoppers, and Star and Joy are happily helping out.
 
That's good news, Top, as long as it's not "Have a Holly Jolly Christmas Jingle Bell Rockin' 'Round the Christmas Tree While Grandma Gets Run Over By a Reindeer" by the Barking Dogs.

Meanwhile, the people in Rochester are quietly hoping that Christmas stays on hold a little longer...
 
SirRoxalot said:
That's good news, Top, as long as it's not "Have a Holly Jolly Christmas Jingle Bell Rockin' 'Round the Christmas Tree While Grandma Gets Run Over By a Reindeer" by the Barking Dogs.

Meanwhile, the people in Rochester are quietly hoping that Christmas stays on hold a little longer...

Don't quote me on this but I thought I heard a Nov. 18th date for 101.3, not sure about the other Roch stations.
 
Yep, the station that can't program "Soft Rock" properly is starting November 18th.

I know WLLW plans on playing a few Christmas rock songs here and there but not killing people with them at any point in time.

If my Classic Rock countdown starts in time, they want me to do a top 40 Classic Rock Christmas songs countdown. (Usually the show will do a top 30, but we can fit 40 Christmas songs into the 4 hours) It'll air Christmas night and will have about 28-30 songs you either never hear or very rarely hear.
 
As much as it makes no sense to us, I'm sure there are a lot of listeners out there who enjoy it. Count me out though. Same tired, tight playlists. And you can almost set your watch by "Santa Baby" coming out of the top of the hour.
 
While I can see the reason to play the stuff (Listeners like it) I cannot see the same 40-50 songs every year! I could name at least 40 songs that NO ONE.... EVER.... plays.
 
I cannot see the same 40-50 songs every year! I could name at least 40 songs that NO ONE.... EVER.... plays

This "seasonal" selection will always create this paradox. Besides "new" artistic seasonal music...there are covers up the Hannukah Bush!! Here's one reason "country" is making waves. The artists are creating "new classics" that aren't traditional. An intriguing appeal. Also notice...the country stations AREN'T flipping yet! 8)

That said...there is definately staying power to rotate the traditional classics....AFTER the traditional Thanksgiving kick off (HEY..it ain't the Christmas Season till Santa rolls past Macy's on Thanksgiving Day!! If you're going tradition...stay with tradition. ;))

So, if ya got 40 tunes...PLAY 'EM...no risk... no reward...IT's Christmas after all!! (well, after November 24th)
 
What would happen if just one music station in each market played NO Christmas music at all?
 
There is no reason in the world to play the same 40-50 songs. Feliz Navidad by Feliciano, Little Saint Nick by Beach Boys etc... Heck, come up with a rotation with those 40-50 songs and make them on an every other song basis and then make a "light" rotation with the many other songs... Gary Glitter's Another Rock N Roll Christmas, Queen's A Winter's Tale, even older artists with christmas albums that are ignored: Lynyrd Skynyrd, Moody Blues, Air Supply, etc...
 
What would happen if just one music station in each market played NO Christmas music at all?

I've wondered that for 35 years. ;D Like the Tootsie Pop...the world may never know.

HDBG
 
majicrockstar said:
Most people love it! The ones that dont will either flock to Kiss or go canadian ! For Entercom its kind of win win for.

I don't know anyone who "loves" Christmas music before Thanksgiving. Guess I don't know "most people". ;)
 
majicrockstar said:
Most people love it! The ones that dont will either flock to Kiss or go canadian ! For Entercom its kind of win win for.

Actually, I know a bunch of people who are kind of disgusted by it. And they're NOT radio types either.

And I don't believe history shows a spike in ratings for Kiss as a result of this. In reality, Star & Joy listeners will not just go to Kiss (which would be the Entercom win/win as you say), but instead do what I actually do at this time of year: I change my presets to stations out of the area and/or listen to CDs for the next 5 weeks.

Ironically, as I've mentioned, many people really want to hear Christmas music between Christmas and New Years, so since Star & Joy stop on Dec 26th, many like me, probably listen to CDs for Christmas music that week.

Go figure.
 
My mother is nowhere near a radio person and it pisses her off because she likes Fickle and Warm. Fickle at least doesn't jam it down your throat, but Warm sure does. I'd say starting a week early is proof of that!

WNYR is doing it right. Starting the day after Thanksgiving... Weekends only with occasional play during the week, gradually getting more as we get closer to Christmas. Even playing things that aren't traditional Xmas songs AND stuff you dont often hear!
 
...but yet NOT ONE radio station anywhere from Buffalo to Rochester with a flip to Christmas that would hint returning to a NEW format? Oh well...
 
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