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Andy Thomas fired again

Yesterday, Andy Thomas was fired from his job at WQSC (Real Talk Radio 1340) in Charleston, after just 4 1/2 months hosting his morning talk show, "Your Charleston with Andy Thomas".

Here is a link from The Post and Courier:

http://www.charleston.net/news/2008/may/03/local_radio_host_fired39514/

It is sad that a market like Charleston, with over 600,000 people in it, can only support three local talk shows on their AM stations. It's either Richard Todd on WTMA in the morning, the annoying Rocky D from Noon-3, or sports talker Bobby Hartin from 3-6 on WTMZ, which is owned by the same people that own WQSC.

Many smaller markets have more talk shows than this, and he is a popular man around Charleston, because he usually had a lighter talk show, talking about music, the arts, and other stuff that none of the other local hosts would even touch.

Where will Andy go now? Will he retire? Move back to Columbia? Try and restart his ad-hoc radio network? Come back on a local station here?
 
This is not the first time he has been fired, and frankly I found his talk shows to be down right controversial and sometimes quite boring. He seems like a nice guy but can also understand what the station owners wanted too. I am not saying that it is totally right for them to dictate what he was saying, but they do have a stake in what dgoes on and if you cannot follow what theya re wanting anymore, then you are out.
 
I didn't even realize Andy had a new show in Charleston. I always enjoyed the show he did on the statewide network, it was about the state and like he said in the article about the "movers and shakers" and not about himself.

Andy is really well known in Columbia, that seems like the best place for him to do a show.
 
charlestondxman said:
Many smaller markets have more talk shows than this.....

They do? That's news to me. Most markets of this size or smaller have 2 live & local people, mostly in the mornings. 3 for Charleston (4 if we're counting 94.3's morning show) is quite a bit.

G
 
I really feel for Andy. He's a good friend of mine and I'm actually going to his son's wedding this weekend. Andy deserves a show in some market. He was one of the many people (Glen Garrett, Jane Pigg, Trey Cooler) who helped me get started in radio. With that said, Andy seems to be a hot topic on the SC board. I would be happy to answer any questions about him/his personality that you all have. By doing this, I hope to clear some of the rumors and crap that I read about Andy. He's really a good person.
 
From Andy Thomas To The Radio Community At Large

For the record.. I gave up my 10 year statewide network in Columbia in December of 2006 due to the loss of my business partner due to divorce . It was a extremely tough decision for me and I was very excited with this recent morning show in Charleston. The following editorial should help to explain what has happened here in Charleston. Please keep in mind that every market has differences and I know that my approach here was on the money. I was only given one...I repeat...one ..rating book of January through March ...after the station had dramatically switched from Man-Cow to me and had also lost Dave Ramsey in December.The starting ratings on the station were 0.4 . I was well on my way to establishing listenership where none had existed before...but it takes time...and support from your station. They had given me free reigns to create an approach...I did....It was working......I was only given one book. Thats the truth.
It wasn't a show about..me......It was a show about Charleston. I loved it!

Here is the editorial:

Real Men Do Go To Ballet

On Friday, May 2nd, I lost a job that I loved with a passion. It was like creating a painting with words on a daily basis. I was hosting a radio talk show I had created called, “Your Charleston with Andy Thomas” and I was fast carving a niche for myself in my coverage and profiles of the many exciting personalities that Charleston has to offer. While most of Talk Radio has pontificating ego-centric hosts who act like they are experts in many subjects; I found great satisfaction in exposing the fascinating and true experts of Charleston. I made sure that I covered the politics but with the help of South Carolina’s best political minds from author Jack Bass to political strategists like Joshua Gross and Governor Mark Sanford and influential Senator Glen McConnell. I made sure we gave many perspectives rather than just one.

History was an important thread of the show also with Walter Edgar, Charles Duell, various historical societies and authors contributing their know-how on Charleston’s illustrious story. Rather than personal pontification, I loved challenging and thought provoking banter with the greatest minds here. It was a daily thrill to meet the John Harris of J K Harris and Noisette’s John Knott of the business world in Charleston, and a gratifying experience to learn about the lives of executive chefs of Charleston’s great restaurants; the passion of various artists; the conviction of the preservation groups. I realized that Charleston is a Mecca of the world’s most interesting people and I have been using my God given talents in helping them tell their stories. So, you see it really wasn’t about me, until that Friday, when I was told that I had it all wrong and that my coverage of the Arts and culinary were of no value, and my interviews with Charleston’s movers and shakers were “boring”; and that Charleston’s radio audience only wants to hear ego-centric pontification. In no uncertain terms, I was told that people don’t care about the Arts or culinary, and don’t like lifestyle interviews. In other words, to save my job I must be controversial, and yell and scream to illicit reaction from an audience. It was a defining moment of my career.

I asked one final question of my boss that day. Did he hear my interview of Louis Yuhasz of Louieskids.org who had recently been interviewed by Rachel Ray on TV? He replied by sticking his finger in his mouth in that untactful manner and I knew, at that moment, that what I considered important about the world was very different from his concept. It was, in my opinion, one of the best interviews I had ever done with one of Charleston’s most fascinating people. It had moved me to tears and I am sure the interview affected my audience in a similar way, as we had discussed the childhood obesity problem in America today. To not do those types of interviews would be against my grain.

I was most proud of what I had started here in Charleston in my coverage of The Arts. I was fascinated by the David Stahl’s of our Charleston Symphony to Stephen and Jill of our fabulous Charleston Ballet Theater. Their dedication and passion for their daily creation was amazing to me and I reveled in what we had here in Charleston that would rival even the great cities of Atlanta and Boston. Great artists have moved to Charleston including Clarence Felder of the movie world to the Jill Eathorne Bahr of the ballet world. Charleston has much to be thankful for. I delighted in exposing this world to my audience in hopes of encouraging people to try these art forms which could so enrich our lives. I understood that these performers gave of themselves for small salaries and the personal satisfaction of sharing their gifts with others. I knew that the Charleston art community deserved attention and I gave it. Spoleto is right around the corner and I was already underway with in-depth coverage working closely with Nigel Redden and his staff.

It was fascinating to hear that a radio “consultant” had told my former employer “real men didn’t go to ballet”, so why was I covering it? Had he ever been to see a ballet? If he had attended the “Best of Balanchine” or the recent stirring New York City Ballet performance at the Sottile Theater he would think otherwise. He had remarked that my show was “drawing women”, as though that was some terrible sin. After all, women make most of the buying decisions in America, and appreciate that there is more to life than Rush Limbaugh. I was proud of the contribution I was making on behalf of my company and was actively pursuing and networking to grow my grasp and expose Charleston’s greatness. I made it a point to get out the studio and to get involved. To understand a city you must be in it. You need to experience it. You need to be at meetings and attend functions. Otherwise, you are directing your company from a bubble and become so out of touch with the city that you were given an FCC license to serve.

Art is part of Charleston. The culinary is critical here. History resonates in our every cobblestone alley and historic building. Great minds are building our future. Why not tap into that? Why give that up? Why bore an audience with just idle pontification rather than delight an audience with all that Charleston has to offer us? There was no real data to say it wasn’t working as we had only begun this show 5 months ago. The paint was still wet on the canvas and the last act was far away. I had just begun to carve this niche and had only months ago found this stage. The reaction I got from the community and listeners was overwhelming. They understood it wasn’t about me. It was about them; the people of Charleston.

Here is yet another example of corporate broadcasting not understanding the communities they serve. Here is yet another example of men who are afraid of what they do not understand and refuse to expose themselves to it. Real men do like ballet, and theater, and symphonic music. Great companies understand how important it is to enrich lives and benefit The Arts.

So hear me say this loud and clear. I will pontificate on this one subject. I will yell and scream these words with great passion. I hope to illicit your response today and I hope these words will help me once again serve “Your Charleston” behind some sort of microphone. I am a real man who LOVES ballet, symphony and theater. I am a broadcaster who believes in serving my city. I am a talk show host who understands that I don’t know everything. I think it is important for YOU to make up your own mind regarding the issues of today. I want all sides to be heard. I adore Charleston and miss you. Please return me to my stage. I have much more to give.

I am an artist and proud of it!

Sincerely,
Andy Thomas
 
UGH! Puh-lease. Never mind that real men do, in fact, dig ballet(for the same reasons they dig "Dancing With the Stars"...you know who you are and you know why). Never mind that Andy might not've gotten a fair shake book-wise and had his tenure cut short. Forget that he might actually have had a compelling show in Charleston when his stay did get cut short. Suspend for the time being the belief that Andy truly is a nice guy(for those of you who believe that). Could the slightest possibility exist that maybe the employers realized that they didn't really like the employee? Stranger things have happened. I personally don't feel one way or another about AT. He could've been a little nicer at one of the parades in 5 Points a few years ago instead of acting like an egocentric ass who wanted to walk behind the station vehicle in a tuxedo for the entire parade, but I'm not sweating it...just an observation(anyone who knows me knows that I've always believed that it doesn't cost anyone anything to be nice when the occasion presents itself). Fact is that every time Thomas has been cut loose, he always has a plethora of reasons why management didn't get his show. He always has excuses as to why everyone else was wrong and he was right, yet poor old Andy got the short stick. He gets personal in his attacks when the chips don't fall his way and whines like a baby when he doesn't get his way. I personally have never, ever heard him utter a single sentence (or seen one in print) where he mentioned that he might've been wrong or might've brought any of his many downfalls on himself. It's always someone else's fault, certainly not his. The people I know that know Andy are not very fond of him. I'm thinking that that is his shortcoming. For the record, I hope he lands on his feet because I don't like the idea of any disc jockey being out of work, but I'm a little fatigued reading his self-righteous, sanctimonious and self-serving ode to the "radio community at large". Tough shit, man. Get over it and get back to the grind like the rest of us, bro. Instead of dragging everyone who the made the decision down to your level, why not rise above it all and make them eat their words by being successful? No one wants to hire a sourpuss with an axe to grind, so trashing everyone in your ode will make that last thought a bit more difficult, but when you get hired again(there's always someone, somewhere) try taking the high road inside as well as outside of the building. Only then will you be an artist.
 
Amen Scott. I had the dis privilege of meeting him on a couple of occasions and soe may think he is a ncie guy, but I thought that he was an arrogant and over cocky member of the male persuasion and every station I have heard him from Greenville to Columbia have always gotten rid of him for one reason or another and they seem to be valid but he alwsy whines about it and frankly the listeners are sick of that crap and maybe this time it caught up with him and besides who in the world wants to listen about ballet or restaurants early in the morning when you want t hear the news, weather and sports to get you to work and beyond that first cup of coffee.
 
Lhsh said:
Amen Scott. I had the dis privilege of meeting him on a couple of occasions and soe may think he is a ncie guy, but I thought that he was an arrogant and over cocky member of the male persuasion and every station I have heard him from Greenville to Columbia have always gotten rid of him for one reason or another and they seem to be valid but he alwsy whines about it and frankly the listeners are sick of that crap and maybe this time it caught up with him and besides who in the world wants to listen about ballet or restaurants early in the morning when you want t hear the news, weather and sports to get you to work and beyond that first cup of coffee.

Correct. I know we've all heard the horror stories of Andy's well publicized hissy fits. He feels that he's ENTITLED to have a show & is ENTITLED to talk about only what interests him. Andy, you're not Rush, ok? His "explanation" above only confirms what we already know about him..that he's a difficult, whiny lil b**ch.

Adapt or perish, Andy.

G
 
Lhsh said:
And we all know that Rush has long since over stayed his wlecome nationally as well.

If that's the case, why is he still #1?
 
Clear Channel's hiring freeze is over , so they can bring him back again for the 4th (or is it 5th) time at WVOC. Let's see, after bad mouthing them to the TV and newspaper in 1989, they re-hired him in 1996. And when they fired him in 1997, he again made the rounds singing "Poor Poor Pitiful Me". They almost brought him back in 2000. But finally brought hiom back "home" to WVOC in 2006. Obviously there's always a place for him.
They could simulcast him on WVOC, WNOK, WCOS, Steve, The Beat and 1400. Then Andy could truly reach the audience he deserves.
I bet he's in the lobby right now.
 
The thought of him coming back to Columbia, especially to WVOC really makes me want to throw up. He has whined from everywhere he has been fired and that even includes 1330 in Greenville.
 
I worked with him for a bit. I always compared him to the old Teddy Ruxpin bears.....talk talk talk from (what seemed like) a pre-recorded cassette, oblivious to him that the person he is talking to, has actually said something :)

and the MEETINGS....don't get me started!

nice guy somewhat on the surface,...but VERY "self-absorbed"
 
Andy has had too many chances with his talk venture. Remember the days when he had his ad-hoc radio network for a couple of years, with the flagship a black gospel station in Columbia, WTGH, and he also had the former Smooth Jazz 99.7, when they were still in Port Royal, in his network, along with WRIX-FM?

That died out, as nobody liked him there. He least gives us a lot to talk about with his antics.
 
I feel like y'all are having the same conversation in two threads...

One for Andy Thomas and the other for Jeff Roper

The same either you love him or hate him conversation...

Personally, I like and respect both...
 
Both Andy Thomas and Jeff Roper are similar in that many folks have had less than positive experiences with them.

Except in Jeff Roper's case, Jeff has talent and can bring the heat (his last stint at WWNU excepted). Andy Thomas has never ever brought the heat. You can have all the ego you want if you bring in listeners and money. If you don't do either, well....
 
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