Another blow to HD radio?

[radiopilot]

This device will download internet music wirelessly and transmit to an FM radio, if so who needs HD radio?


http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/lg-muziq-beam-music-from-cellphone-straight-to-fm.html


"The LG Muziq, available next month from Sprint, will be able to download music wirelessly and transmit it directly to your FM radio. Mobile Audio in your car just got easier."

This of course on top of the 28 million subscribers to to be on WiMax service by 2011.

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/2...-by-2011-and-theyre-not-satellite-radios.html

Radiopilot

 

[Chuck]

Incidentally, it seems that Internet radio has been given a reprieve. The word is that yesterday, a SoundExchange executive promised -- in front of Congress -- that SoundExchange will not enforce the new royalty rates. Webcasters will stay online, as new rates are hammered out...

 

[radiopilot]

Incidentally, it seems that Internet radio has been given a reprieve. The word is that yesterday, a SoundExchange executive promised -- in front of Congress -- that SoundExchange will not enforce the new royalty rates. Webcasters will stay online, as new rates are hammered out...

This is excellent news indeed for all webcaters and myself as I've been waiting to set up my online streams until they hashed out the fees.


Radiopilot

 

[PocketRadio]

This device will download internet music wirelessly and transmit to an FM radio, if so who needs HD radio?


http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/lg-muziq-beam-music-from-cellphone-straight-to-fm.html


"The LG Muziq, available next month from Sprint, will be able to download music wirelessly and transmit it directly to your FM radio. Mobile Audio in your car just got easier."

This of course on top of the 28 million subscribers to to be on WiMax service by 2011.

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/2...-by-2011-and-theyre-not-satellite-radios.html

Radiopilot

Absolutely - and take a look at this news:

"Sprint and Clearwire partner, WiMax goes large."

"Sprint and Clearwire are teaming up their efforts to bring WiMax nationwide." ;D

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/sprint-and-clearwire-partner-wimax-goes-large.html

Terrestrial and Satellite Radio take note !

 

[amfmsw]

Let me begin with, there are major flaws with IBOC, especially AM.

Guys, I love your enthusiasm, but there's a few logistical problems.

First, YOU NEED A COMPUTER IN THE CAR!

Second, the "radio" must have an AUX input, or you're back to analog with a Part 15 FM transmitter. You just lost all of your quality. Speaking of which, the bit rate is better on HDFM.

AM/FM HD is FREE.

No matter what, terrestrial AM/FM will always be "portable".

 

[PocketRadio]

Let me begin with, there are major flaws with IBOC, especially AM.

Guys, I love your enthusiasm, but there's a few logistical problems.

First, YOU NEED A COMPUTER IN THE CAR!

Second, the "radio" must have an AUX input, or you're back to analog with a Part 15 FM transmitter. You just lost all of your quality. Speaking of which, the bit rate is better on HDFM.

AM/FM HD is FREE.

No matter what, terrestrial AM/FM will always be "portable".

First of all, HD Radio requires the purchase of expensive HD radios, HD Radio is not yet portable, and the HD channels are becoming subscription-based. The article states:

"The deal is huge. The two companies said today they'll collaborate on products, services, infrastructure, marketing and distribution."

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/sprint-and-clearwire-partner-wimax-goes-large.html

You can be sure that these new devices will include in-dash and portable wireless Internet devices. Of course, there would no longer be a need for HD Radio over the broadcast bands, since they would be able to be streamed reliably over WiMax, directly to portable devices including laptops.

 

[Chuck]

First, YOU NEED A COMPUTER IN THE CAR!

Second, the "radio" must have an AUX input, or you're back to analog with a Part 15 FM transmitter. You just lost all of your quality. Speaking of which, the bit rate is better on HDFM.

AM/FM HD is FREE.

No matter what, terrestrial AM/FM will always be "portable".

You probably already have a computer in your car. My Chevy dealer tells me that I have five of them in mine. What's one more? Detroit plans to install mobile computers in that space currently occupied by your radio. They are already doing it with multi function devices that include GPS and back up cameras (among other things). It isn't going to be long before you do have the equivalent of a laptop built into your dash. Why? Because it is something that consumers have told them that they wanted. Is it here now? No, but it will be here soon. Very soon. It seems people want to be able to connect to their office, or get their email while away from home. Internet radio comes along for the ride.

Right now you see tons of people sitting in their cars in wi-fi hot spots, doing just that. I've discovered that with my EVDO wireless card, I really can drive while listening to Internet radio. It actually works. It surprised me. My Chevy radio has an aux input jack, as do most car radios the last couple of years. Almost every after market radio has one, including the JVC HD radio. Conveniently, the console on my car has an area that my lap top fits perfectly on. Coincidence? I doubt it.

Wi-Max is coming. In fact Clear-Wire is already doing it where I live. It is reasonably priced and best of all, it actually works very well. I see this as only getting bigger, like a snowball rolling down hill.

 

[dbdigital]

In yet another blow to HD-Radio, Sony just announced three new receivers as part of their line of ES A/V receivers. Lots of HDTV interconnectivity, digital media ports, 7.1 surround sound AND iPod connectivity. They also have hefty price tags: 900.00 to 1600.00.

But NO HD-Radio, just analog AM/FM. So where is the faith among large CE manufacturers on the future of HD-Radio? And if they don't believe in it, why should anyone else?

db

 

[MasterTheseus]

Let me begin with, there are major flaws with IBOC, especially AM.

Guys, I love your enthusiasm, but there's a few logistical problems.

First, YOU NEED A COMPUTER IN THE CAR!

Second, the "radio" must have an AUX input, or you're back to analog with a Part 15 FM transmitter. You just lost all of your quality. Speaking of which, the bit rate is better on HDFM.

AM/FM HD is FREE.

No matter what, terrestrial AM/FM will always be "portable".

First of all, HD Radio requires the purchase of expensive HD radios, HD Radio is not yet portable, and the HD channels are becoming subscription-based. The article states:

"The deal is huge. The two companies said today they'll collaborate on products, services, infrastructure, marketing and distribution."

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/sprint-and-clearwire-partner-wimax-goes-large.html

You can be sure that these new devices will include in-dash and portable wireless Internet devices. Of course, there would no longer be a need for HD Radio over the broadcast bands, since they would be able to be streamed reliably over WiMax, directly to portable devices including laptops.

HD Radio is not currently portable, but you take just about anything with a DSP and it won't be portable. But rest assured, portable will be by this time next year for HD Radio.

As for stations going subscription. . . Only SELECT stations will be subscription and will be for premium content and that is still a long way off they are only testing it right now. . HD-1 and HD-2 channels will still be free.

 

[dbdigital]

A couple of fresh complaints from HD Radio owners from the LA Radio website:

This from an Accurian HD radio owner named Bob Allen:

"HD radio for thee is not for me, you see, said he.’ Sorry, let me explain, I think HD radio is a wonderful idea and will have a lot to offer, just not for anyone in Santa Clarita. Right now Radio Shack is having a special on an Accurian HD radio that normally sells for $199, it's on sale for $169 with a $40 mail-in rebate making the final price $129. Great deal! So I bought one on Friday, brought it home and hooked it up to my outside hi-gain fm antenna. Just about all the Mt. Wilson stations that I normally get on my vintage 1960's McIntosh receiver came in and every once in awhile the HD indicator would light up. BUT, as far as getting the additional HD channels it was a no go. I'm taking my HD radio back to the ‘shack’ this afternoon.”

Here's from another Accurian HD radio owner named Bill Powers:

“This past week was quite a letdown for me. I took the HD2 plunge and tried out a receiver that Radio Shack had on sale. Living here in Duarte, which is line-of-sight from most of LA's transmitter towers, I figured I would have no problems receiving any HD2 signals. Unfortunately, I found I was wrong!...As I said before, if I live line-of-sight and have reception problems, what about those farther out? Or am I way too close to the transmitters such that their waves are shooting over me? Anybody care to hazard a guess? Nice try, just not ‘there’ yet.”

http://www.laradio.com/newsite/index3.htm

So is it the radio or the technology? You decide.

db

 

[dumber than a box of hair]

So is it the radio or the technology?

In the long run, it really doesn't matter. As has been said so often by so many, you never get a second chance to make a first impression. Neither of those people are likely to try HD Radio again...and we know perfectly well they're not the only ones being left with that impression.

 

[SUPERCASTER]

Let me begin with, there are major flaws with IBOC, especially AM.

Guys, I love your enthusiasm, but there's a few logistical problems.

1-First, YOU NEED A COMPUTER IN THE CAR!

2-Second, the "radio" must have an AUX input, or you're back to analog with a Part 15 FM transmitter. You just lost all of your quality. Speaking of which, the bit rate is better on HDFM.

3-AM/FM HD is FREE.

4-No matter what, terrestrial AM/FM will always be "portable".

1-HD radios are computers (DSP etc.) with tuners added, just as WiMax is.

2-WiMax radios will not have that problem. As far as internet streaming codecs and bitrates, some internet stations have much higher quality then HD radio can achieve, even without cutting back the bitrate for HD2, 3 and additional data.

3-Where can I get my FREE AM/FM HD radio?

4-As yet, there are no portable HD radios.

 

[vsa]

Let me begin with, there are major flaws with IBOC, especially AM. 

Guys, I love your enthusiasm, but there's a few logistical problems. 

First, YOU NEED A COMPUTER IN THE CAR!

Second, the "radio" must have an AUX input, or you're back to analog with a Part 15 FM transmitter.  You just lost all of your quality.  Speaking of which, the bit rate is better on HDFM.

AM/FM HD is FREE.

No matter what, terrestrial AM/FM will always be "portable".

Modern car radios come with ports allowing iPod, mp3 player, cell phone or other device input capability. Automakers, Ford for example, are already making touch screen computers available in some of their models. Wireless EVDO routers give any wifi device access to the Internet. So do EV-DO enabled laptops and smartphones. Wimax powered devices or add-ons will appear later this year and next year.

If someone offered you an 8-track player or even a cassette player and a full modern library of music-filled carts or cassettes for your automobile, would you take it and actually use it? Cost is a very minor factor.

Can HD radio ever become affordable for all terrestrial broadcasters?

Can HD radio deliver a "signal" worldwide in a way that Internet radio can?

Can HD radio play programs on-demand?

Can HD radio incorporate video?

Can HD radio deliver an unlimited number of program sources with no real limits on bandwidth?

Can HD radio be delivered without the need to purchase a specialized "radio"?

Can HD radio deliver a personalized radio station such as Pandora or Last.fm?

Can HD radio offer the capability to skip songs as Accuradio.com does for example?

Can HD radio ever have enough reach per station to be able to support a live staff?



   

 

[cmenow]

Let me begin with, there are major flaws with IBOC, especially AM.

Guys, I love your enthusiasm, but there's a few logistical problems.

1-First, YOU NEED A COMPUTER IN THE CAR!

2-Second, the "radio" must have an AUX input, or you're back to analog with a Part 15 FM transmitter. You just lost all of your quality. Speaking of which, the bit rate is better on HDFM.

3-AM/FM HD is FREE.

4-No matter what, terrestrial AM/FM will always be "portable".

1-HD radios are computers (DSP etc.) with tuners added, just as WiMax is.

2-WiMax radios will not have that problem. As far as internet streaming codecs and bitrates, some internet stations have much higher quality then HD radio can achieve, even without cutting back the bitrate for HD2, 3 and additional data.

3-Where can I get my FREE AM/FM HD radio?

4-As yet, there are no portable HD radios.

1) Ahh no. Plus the UI is far different. And can we talk about coverage???

2) If you can get connected.

3) Where can you get your free WiMax? Dont you have to pay something? So dial up a connection from my car. Oh thats right, there is no WiMax yet. And whats that you say? I cannot get any WiMAX on my way to work because there is no coverage? Well at least it is free. : That is I dont have to pay for something I cannot get.

4) Key word YET (watch this fall). Oh, Where is my WIMAX portable radio? Whats that? There arent any on production yet? I need a $800 laptop to make it work? What happens when my laptop battery dies after an hour of listening?

To sum up... I need to spend about $800 on a radio (laptop) that will play an about an hour on a battery, plus I need to pay for WiMAX service (which isnt available yet) and that service will never be available where I live (in the country), just so I can listen to a free service.

WHERE DO I SIGN UP? :