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another cable lineup thread ;-)

Ultimajock

Ultimajock

...just came across an old VHS tape from November 1987 on which I happened to record the channel lineup of the Complete Channel system in Madison, Wisconsin. It looked like this:

TV
2 HBO
3 weather (character-generated NOAA reports with NOAA radio as the audio)
4 WYOU (the local public access channel, not the Scranton PA CBS affiliate)
5 WMTV/15 NBC
6 CNN
7 WKOW/27 ABC
8 WMSN/47 Fox
9 WGN/9 Chicago
10 ESPN
11 WHA-TV/21 PBS
12 CitiCable (Madison's municipal government channel)
13 WISC/3 CBS
14 WTBS/17 Atlanta
15 American Movie Classics/Fashion Television (split schedule)
16 Complete Channel's equipment testing channel
17 messages (?)
18 CNN Headline News
19 HSN
20 C-SPAN
21 WMVS/10 PBS (Milwaukee)
22 The Nashville Network
23 MTV
24 Showtime
25 Financial News Network/The Travel Channel (split schedule)
26 USA
27 Madison Public Schools
28 Christian Broadcasting Network
29 Nickelodeon
30 The Disney Channel
31 Lifetime
32 Cinemax
33 The Learning Channel
34 BET
35 VH-1
36 A&E
55 The Movie Channel

FM
89.1 WERN/88.7
89.5 WORT/89.9
90.5 HBO
90.9 WMTV
91.3 WKOW
91.7 WTBS
92.5 WMAD/92.1
93.7 ESPN
94.1 Madison police scanner
94.5 WILV
95.3 WHA-TV
95.7 WISC
96.1 VH-1
97.1 WSEY
97.5 WMVS
98.5 WMGN
98.9 WFMT Chicago
99.3 The Nashville Network
100.5 WWV (the Fort Collins CO shortwave time signal station)
101.1 WIBA-FM
102.9 WNWC
103.3 NOAA Weather
104.5 WZEE
105.5 MTV
105.9 WWQM-FM
106.9 WSJY
107.7 WHA-AM/970 Radio
 
According to the Mobile Press-Register archives, this was Comcast Cablevision of Mobile’s line-up of cable TV channels on December 8th, 1992:

2 WEIQ (PBS)/C-SPAN 2
3 WEAR (ABC)
4 Turner Network Television (TNT)
5 WKRG-TV (CBS)
6 Entertainment and Sports Programming Network (ESPN)
7 Cable News Network (CNN)
8 Turner Broadcasting System (TBS)
9 USA Network
10 WALA-TV (NBC)
11 WPMI-TV (Fox)
12 CNN Headline News
13 Local organizations/Community bulletin board
14 Cinemax
15 Home Box Office (HBO)
16 Music Television (MTV)
17 Nickelodeon
18 Disney Channel
19 WMPV/EWTN
20 Video Hits 1 (VH-1)
21 AMC
22 Showtime
23 Family Channel
24 WJTC (Independent)
25 The Nashville Network
26 Country Music Television
27 Lifetime
28 Quality Value Convenience (QVC)
29 Black Entertainment Television (BET)
30 Arts and Entertainment
31 VISN/ACTS
32 Consumer News and Business Channel (CNBC)
33 Discovery Channel
34 Weather Channel
35 WGN
36 SportSouth
37 Cable and Satellite Public Affairs Network (C-SPAN)
38 The Movie Channel
39 Learning Channel
40 Prevue Channel
 
Ultimajock said:
...just came across an old VHS tape from November 1987 on which I happened to record the channel lineup of the Complete Channel system in Madison, Wisconsin. It looked like this:

TV
2 HBO
3 weather (character-generated NOAA reports with NOAA radio as the audio)
4 WYOU (the local public access channel, not the Scranton PA CBS affiliate)
5 WMTV/15 NBC
6 CNN
7 WKOW/27 ABC
8 WMSN/47 Fox
9 WGN/9 Chicago
10 ESPN
11 WHA-TV/21 PBS
12 CitiCable (Madison's municipal government channel)
13 WISC/3 CBS
14 WTBS/17 Atlanta
15 American Movie Classics/Fashion Television (split schedule)
16 Complete Channel's equipment testing channel
17 messages (?)
18 CNN Headline News
19 HSN
20 C-SPAN
21 WMVS/10 PBS (Milwaukee)
22 The Nashville Network
23 MTV
24 Showtime
25 Financial News Network/The Travel Channel (split schedule)
26 USA
27 Madison Public Schools
28 Christian Broadcasting Network
29 Nickelodeon
30 The Disney Channel
31 Lifetime
32 Cinemax
33 The Learning Channel
34 BET
35 VH-1
36 A&E
55 The Movie Channel

FM
89.1 WERN/88.7
89.5 WORT/89.9
90.5 HBO
90.9 WMTV
91.3 WKOW
91.7 WTBS
92.5 WMAD/92.1
93.7 ESPN
94.1 Madison police scanner
94.5 WILV
95.3 WHA-TV
95.7 WISC
96.1 VH-1
97.1 WSEY
97.5 WMVS
98.5 WMGN
98.9 WFMT Chicago
99.3 The Nashville Network
100.5 WWV (the Fort Collins CO shortwave time signal station)
101.1 WIBA-FM
102.9 WNWC
103.3 NOAA Weather
104.5 WZEE
105.5 MTV
105.9 WWQM-FM
106.9 WSJY
107.7 WHA-AM/970 Radio
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They had radio simulcasts of cable channels? Why would they do that?
 
Mario-500 said:
According to the Mobile Press-Register archives, this was Comcast Cablevision of Mobile’s line-up of cable TV channels on December 8th, 1992:

2 WEIQ (PBS)/C-SPAN 2
3 WEAR (ABC)
4 Turner Network Television (TNT)
5 WKRG-TV (CBS)
6 Entertainment and Sports Programming Network (ESPN)
7 Cable News Network (CNN)
8 Turner Broadcasting System (TBS)
9 USA Network
10 WALA-TV (NBC)
11 WPMI-TV (Fox)
12 CNN Headline News
13 Local organizations/Community bulletin board
14 Cinemax
15 Home Box Office (HBO)
16 Music Television (MTV)
17 Nickelodeon
18 Disney Channel
19 WMPV/EWTN
20 Video Hits 1 (VH-1)
21 AMC
22 Showtime
23 Family Channel
24 WJTC (Independent)
25 The Nashville Network
26 Country Music Television
27 Lifetime
28 Quality Value Convenience (QVC)
29 Black Entertainment Television (BET)
30 Arts and Entertainment
31 VISN/ACTS
32 Consumer News and Business Channel (CNBC)
33 Discovery Channel
34 Weather Channel
35 WGN
36 SportSouth
37 Cable and Satellite Public Affairs Network (C-SPAN)
38 The Movie Channel
39 Learning Channel
40 Prevue Channel
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How could a PBS station be shared with something else?
 
They had radio simulcasts of cable channels? Why would they do that?
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Because most TV sets didn't have stereo at the time. I had "cable radio" and used it to tape episodes of MTV's 'Half-Hour Comedy Hour" for road trips.
 
ssetta said:
Mario-500 said:
According to the Mobile Press-Register archives, this was Comcast Cablevision of Mobile’s line-up of cable TV channels on December 8th, 1992:

2 WEIQ (PBS)/C-SPAN 2
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How could a PBS station be shared with something else?
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I would assume that WEIQ did not program a full 24/7, and that they put C-SPAN 2 on the channel when WEIQ was dark. Just a guess/hunch.
 
Caltec Cablevision, Baltimore in August 1982, listings from their own guide:

Most channels were also relayed on cable FM
2 Caltec Programming Guide
3 NOAA Weather
4/90.7 Catonsville Community College
5/91.1 HBO
6/91.9 Dundalk Community College
7/92.7 Esssex Community College
8/93.5 CBN
9/93.9 USA Network
10 KBL-TV Baltimore County
11/94.3 Financial News/Sports/Tickertape
12 WMAR 2-NBC Baltimore
13 General News
15 Cable Health Network
16 ESPN
17/94.7 WTBS Atlanta
18 C-SPAN
19/96.3 Nickelodeon/ARTS
20/96.7 Showtime
21/97.1 WBAL 11-CBS Baltimore
22/97.5 WMPB 22/67-PBS Baltimore
23/98.3 WJZ 13-ABC Baltimore
24/98.7 WRC 4-NBC Washington
25/99.5 WTTG 5-Washington
26/99.9 WETA 26-PBS Washington
27/100.3 WJLA 7-ABC Washington
28 CNN
29/101.5 WDVM 9-CBS Washington
30/102.3 WDCA 20-Washington
31 Public Access/Bulletin Board
32/103.1 WOR New York
34/103.9 MTV
35/105.9 WBFF 45-Baltimore
36 Education Channel (Baltimore County Public Schools)
 
The only downside of Cable FM that I can see there is, if you had cable hooked up to a radio/receiver, how could you listen to regular FM on it?

And also, do you know if any cable systems in the US still offer cable FM? I think they have it on digital cable in Seattle, but do they still offer it on analog?
 
Here is my Nick Jr Cable channel lineup

01-The Weather Channel
02-KARK
03-KTHV
04-KETS
05-Local Access
06-KATV
07-HBO
08-KWBF
09-KVTN
10-KLRT
11-KKYK
12-KASN
13-HSN
14-QVC
15-Nick Jr Playalong
16-Nick Jr Classics
17-MTV
18-VH1
19-Cinemax
20-E!
21-KJLR
22-KKAP
23-Disney Channel
24-AMC
25-TV Guide Network
26-Nickelodeon
27-Noggin
28-The N
29-USA Network
30-Cable Channel Menu
31-WE
32-TCM
33-TNT
34-Discovery Channel
35-CMT
36-GAC
37-TBS
38-Oxygen
39-Educational Access
40-PBS Kids Sprout
41-PBS World
42-TLC
43-KATV News Now
44-CNN
45-CNBC
46-MSNBC
47-CNN Headline News
48-A&E
49-CSPAN
50-CSPAN2
51-style.
52-TruTV
53-Comedy Central
54-The History Channel
55-AETN Create
56-AETN Kids
57-AETN Scholar
58-AETN2
59-Bravo
60-ESPN
61-ESPN2
62-ESPN Classic
63-ESPNEWS
64-ESPNU
65-Fox Sports Southwest
66-Versus
67-Speed Channel
68-Golf Channel
69-G4
70-Lifetime
71-SciFi Channel
72-TV One
73-InDemand Events
74-InDemand Movies
75-Playboy TV
76-Fox News Channel
77-Cartoon Network
78-HGTV
79-Food Network
80-DIY Network
81-Fine Living
82-Travel Channel
83-Animal Planet
84-Soap Net
85-Toon Disney
86-TV Land
87-FitTV
88-Discovery Home
89-Discovery Kids
90-qubo
91-ION Life
92-ION Television
93-Nick Jr Cable Plus
94-Public Access
95-TV95
96-SuperStation WGN
97-Showtime
98-The Movie Channel
99-Flix
 
ssetta said:
The only downside of Cable FM that I can see there is, if you had cable hooked up to a radio/receiver, how could you listen to regular FM on it?

And also, do you know if any cable systems in the US still offer cable FM? I think they have it on digital cable in Seattle, but do they still offer it on analog?
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In most cases you could listen to regular FM as many systems would put local stations on other frequencies. Beyond simulcast of movie channels and early stereo services (MTV and TMC) some systems would import signals.

Unless it's an old school system FM cable is a thing of the past replaced with DMX and other services.
 
I recently came across the cable lineup for Maclean-Hunter in London, Ontario from January 1970:

2 - WJBK (CBS) Detroit
3 - WKYC (NBC) Cleveland
4 - WWJ (NBC) Detroit
5 - WEWS (ABC) Cleveland
6 - WSEE (CBS) Erie
7 - WXYZ (ABC) Detroit
8 - WJW (CBS) Cleveland
9 - CFPL (CBC) London
11 - CHCH (Ind.) Hamilton
12 - WICU (NBC) Erie
13 - CKCO (CTV) Kitchener

Cable 12 was also used for Maclean-Hunter local cable programming, which aired sporadically at the time. By 1972 Maclean-Hunter and London Cable TV had amalgamated their community cable channels, and Maclean-Hunter moved it full-time to Cable 4. WWJ was likely dropped completely as a result as the only NBC affiliate left on local cable by 1974 was WICU, when WKYC was dropped in favour of the new Global Television Network. Other Cleveland and Detroit stations were dropped in favour of TVOntario and CBLFT, as well as two additional Erie stations, WJET and WQLN. The Detroit stations returned once the cable dial expanded later in the 1970s, and one Cleveland station was added that wasn't there before, WUAB. Eventually Maclean-Hunter moved the community cable channel to 13 - which was the channel London Cable TV always used - which resulted in CKCO moving to Cable 6, and WSEE moving to Cable 4. CKCO moved to Cable 12 and WICU moved to a channel in the 30s when CBLN came on in 1988 on Cable 6, and WSEE moved to Cable 21 when CFMT came to London in 1993, taking over Cable 4. WQLN is now the only American station on the VHF portion of the cable dial.
 
cable radio was not ever offered here (north Alabama) but at one time I could hook the cable up to the stereo and get fantastic FM reception 150 mile radius or so. Doesn't work at all now on FM. The band is so full now it wouldn't help anyway.
 
...just came across an old tape from October 1985 on which I happened to record the audio channel lineup of the Complete Radio Channel system in Atlanta, Gerogia. It looked like this:

AM
560 WQXI
590 WGTV (PBS)
610 WXIA (NBC)
650 WSB-AM
700 Nickelodeon
780 NOAA weather
830 VH-1
880 WSB-TV (ABC)
920 A&E
960 MTV
1010 HBO
1050 Cinemax
1090 The Movie Channel
1120 WAGA-TV (CBS)
1170 WTBS
1200 Showtime
1260 ESPN
1290 WWV (time signal station)
1310 WATL-TV
1350 WQXI-FM
1400 The Disney Channel
1480 Discovery Channel
1520 WVEU
1590 WCLP-TV (PBS)
1620 WGNX-TV
1660 PRISM

FM
89.1 WABE/90.1
89.5 WNEK/91.5
90.5 HBO
90.9 WXIA-TV
91.3 WSB-TV
91.7 WTBS
92.5 WSB-FM/98.5
93.7 ESPN
94.1 Atlanta police scanner
94.5 WPCH
95.3 WATL-TV
95.7 WAGA-TV
96.1 VH-1
97.1 WQXI-AM
97.5 WGTV
98.5 WKCX
98.9 WFMT Chicago
99.3 The Nashville Network
100.5 WWV (the Fort Collins CO shortwave time signal station)
101.1 WGN-TV Chicago
102.9 WOR-TV New York
103.3 NOAA Weather
104.5 WUSA-TV Washington
105.5 MTV
105.9 KVUE-TV Austin
106.9 KETS-TV Little Rock
107.7 WHA-AM/970 Radio
 
I've heard of cable FM radio before, although it wasn't big in my area, but I'd never heard of cable radio on AM. Was that very common at least in some areas?
 
bjbarnettmusic said:
...just came across an old tape from October 1985 on which I happened to record the audio channel lineup of the Complete Radio Channel system in Atlanta, Gerogia. It looked like this:

FM
104.5 WUSA-TV Washington
105.9 KVUE-TV Austin
107.7 WHA-AM/970 Radio
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...whoa! Were WUSA-TV and KVUE-TV on the cable system in Atlanta at that time? And how in the world did they get WHA-AM from the University of Wisconsin-Madison (were they piggybacked onto the WGN-TV satellite transponder like WFMT was)?...
 
If you notice bjbarnettmusic post is very similar to Ultimajock's original post. So I wouldn't put much value in its validity, especially the whole AM cable thing.

As long the subject is FM cable, who were some of the FM superstations? WFMT Chicago and KKGO LA come to mind. KKGO was jazz for many years and available via satellite on FM cable. That changed around 1989 when KFAC dropped Classical for Rhythmic. KKGO picked up the Classical format and KLON Long Beach replaced KKGO on the bird for Jazz.
 
WDDJ-FM 96.9 (Double-DJ) used to simulcast Friday Night Videos from channel 6 in Paducah back in the '80s for the same reason: not much stereo TV availability at that time. (There were crawls on the TV screen announcing this.) Still, I had to wonder if it was very annoying for radio listeners who were out late listening to Double DJ on their car radios (or wherever) to have to endure so many commercials! ::)
 
bjbarnettmusic said:
...just came across an old tape from October 1985 on which I happened to record the audio channel lineup of the Complete Radio Channel system in Atlanta, Gerogia.
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Who was the cable franchise in Atlanta in 1985 (seriously)? I don't believe any cable-radio-only services existed in the US. Also, while many areas offered cable FM, I don't believe there's such a thing as cable AM (interference issues being at the top of the list).
 
azumanga said:
bjbarnettmusic said:
...just came across an old tape from October 1985 on which I happened to record the audio channel lineup of the Complete Radio Channel system in Atlanta, Gerogia.
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Who was the cable franchise in Atlanta in 1985 (seriously)? I don't believe any cable-radio-only services existed in the US. Also, while many areas offered cable FM, I don't believe there's such a thing as cable AM (interference issues being at the top of the list).
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I believe Cox was and still is the cable provider. Yes, the listing with the AM's was bogus.
 
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