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another cable lineup thread ;-)

Back in the early 90's I don't remember if our then cable system in Winchester, VA ( Adelphia ) offered FM radio service. I have a feeling they didn't since Winchester's WINC-FM/AM until the late 80's actually owned our system and something tells me that part of that sale was that only WINC can be heard on cable and no one else. WINC was used as the audio for a number of those public service channels back then and today on at least one channel that is still the case.

Now our local hospital Winchester Medical Center, they had their own in-house cable system which was available only on the campus of the hospital. The hospital did offer FM radio on their system but only the stations in Winchester ( WTRM-FM, WINC-FM, WUSQ-FM and WAPP ),
Martinsburg-Charlestown, WV ( WKMZ and WXVA ), Hagerstown,MD ( WYII, WWMD and WARX ), Woodstock, VA ( WAZR ) and Front Royal, VA ( WFTR-FM ). Strasburg-Front Royal's WFQX-FM wasn't available because the guy in charge of the cable service hated that station.

No Washington or Baltimore FM station were offered on the service however the audio for a few of the DC TV stations ( WRC, WTTG, WJLA and WUSA ) were available as well as MTV and the Nashville Network.

The video side...
2..Hospital in house
3..Hosptial in house
4..WRC ( NBC )
5..WTTG ( FOX )
6..WINC ( they got that channel from Adelphia )
7..WJLA ( ABC )
8..Bedside Box Office
9..WUSA ( CBS )
10..CNN
11..WTBS
12..Nashville Network
13..MTV

that was it !!!
 
I dont remember Cablevision Long Island (Woodbury) line-up, but there were several local channels that are no longer available, such as Long Island One (channel 1) and the Swap and Shop channel.
I have been asking around, and no one seems to know the answer to the following question. Before digital cable was launched, the Woodbury system had a program guide on channel 14, with a blue background. Used to say "ON CABLEVISION" then later changed to "ON OPTIMUM TV" with adult contemporary music playing in the background. Other systems in Suffolk used to have a radio station but it was replaced with the same music. It wasn't a radio station because there were no commercials, and the music was quite good. It definately wasn't a digital satellite signal, the music would often have pops and static, especially when storms were around.
The audio was in mono. When digital cable was launched they dumped the background music and had a flashy "zap2it" style guide with commercials in the background.
With digital cable came Music Choice, maybe that was what they were using on channel 14? But Music Choice is in stereo. TCI Cable had this "cable music" as well on their program guide, and before they were bought out by Cablevision they sold a seperate box for DMX Music services. Perhaps the music on our channel 14 was DMX?
I remember back in the time period there were 4 main music services, muzak, DMX, AEI, and 3M. I'd just like to know what that background music was on the EPG. I kind of miss it actually. The playlist seemed deeper than what music choice offers.
 
azumanga said:
bjbarnettmusic said:
...just came across an old tape from October 1985 on which I happened to record the audio channel lineup of the Complete Radio Channel system in Atlanta, Gerogia.

Who was the cable franchise in Atlanta in 1985 (seriously)? I don't believe any cable-radio-only services existed in the US. Also, while many areas offered cable FM, I don't believe there's such a thing as cable AM (interference issues being at the top of the list).

I believe PRIME Cable was the provider in 1985. Moved there that summer and don't remember any cable FM either. COX's corporate headquarters is in Atlanta, but the closest system is in Macon I believe.
 
When I lived in Duluth proper (1990 - 1993) our cable provider was Bresnan Communications, whose system in Duluth was absorbed into Charter Communications about five or six years after I moved. I was only 4 - 6 years old at the time, but absolutely fascinated with TV channels, line-ups, etc. (which helped lead to my interest in DXing) so I still remember a little bit of the lineup. The lowest channel was 2 (VHF) and the highest was 36; our local KDLH-3 was at 4, KBJR-6 at 5, WDSE-8 at 11, and WDIO-10 at 13. I think these channels still have those numbers (3, 6, 8, and 10, being the actual RF frequencies of those channels, are left vacant). 9 was KMSP; at the time it was like a Minnesota superstation. A few years after I moved it affiliated with UPN and I'd often catch it at my new house outside of Duluth. One of the curiosities was that channel 2 was Showtime; the rest of the premiums (Cinemax, Showtime, TMC, and get this...Disney!) were in the lower - mid 20's range. MTV I believe was 27; Nickelodeon was nearby. In the 30's I think there were Bravo, the Weather Channel, CNBC, and the Discovery Channel. Down in the teens was American Movie Classics and TBS. Some of the other channels not yet mentioned we had were CNN, TNN, The Family Channel, TLC, Lifetime, WGN, TNT, VH1, USA, ESPN (but not ESPN2), and the Midwest Sports Channel.

Much to my disappointment, right after we disconnected our cable getting ready to move Bresnan added a bunch of channels, making the cable system span all the way up into the 50's. Some of these I believe were Comedy Central, E!, Sci-Fi Channel, and the Cartoon Network, all newer channels at the time. By the late 90's they were in the 70's or 80's, and rolled out digital cable.

We moved from our house in Duluth about ten miles out into rural Hermantown, well beyond any cable lines. But around that time a scrambled UHF "cable" provider, BEAM TV, had launched, and we subscribed to their service, which gave us 8 channels. The line-up was:

15 Sci-Fi Channel
27 CNN
30 TBS
32 USA Network
34 Discovery Channel
38 The Family Channel
56 Showtime
60 Nickelodeon

Looking back, I think it's a bit odd to offer Sci-Fi on such a basic package, but being very interested in UFOs at the time, I sure was glad they did! They planned on adding 62, 64, 66, and 68 as future channels, but that never materialized. The antenna they provided also gave us clear access (through the receiver) to our four local VHF stations and a TBN translator in Duluth.
 
just came across an old tape of the Complete Radio System in Atlanta, Georgia from December 1985....

TWO WORDS: IT'S FAKE!!!!
 
October 1985... sorry.
And channel, not system... sorry

-crainbebo
 
Nick Jr Cable Haskell - October 2003

1 Nick Jr Cable One
2 KTHV (CBS - Little Rock)
3 TNT
4 KARK (NBC - Little Rock)
5 KLRT (FOX - Little Rock)
6 Nickelodeon
7 KATV (ABC - Little Rock)
8 ESPN
9 KASN (UPN - Little Rock)
10 Cable News Network
11 KWBF (WB - Little Rock)
12 Lifetime
13 KETS (PBS - Little Rock)
14 Arts & Entertainment
15 USA Network
16 Nick Jr Classics
17 TBS Superstation
18 Discovery Channel
19 VH1
20 MTV
21 WKNO (PBS - Memphis)
22 E! Entertainment
23 American Movie Classics
24 Nick Jr Playalong Channel
25 Cable Channel Menu
26 ABC Family
27 The Weather Channel
28 CNN Headline News
29 Nick Jr Cable Sports
30 Fox Sports Southwest
31 KYPX (PAX - Little Rock)
32 The Learning Channel
33 The History Channel
34 Benton Community Access
35 Local Bulletin Board
36 HBO
37 HBO 2
38 HBO Signature
39 Showtime
40 Disney Channel
41 KLRA (UNI - Little Rock)
42 Turner Classic Movies
43 The Movie Channel
44 Flix
45 Cinemax
46 QVC
47 Telemundo
48 Black Entertainment Television
49 Bravo
50 Food Network
51 Court TV
52 Cartoon Network
53 CNBC
54 MSNBC
55 KVTN (IND - Little Rock)
56 Educational Access
57 Leased Access
58 Nick Jr Cable Home Theatre
59 Nick Jr Cable Home Theatre
60 Nick Jr Cable Home Theatre
61 Nick Jr Cable Home Theatre
62 Playboy TV
63 Adultvision PPV
64 ESPN2
65 Sci-Fi Channel
66 CNNfn
67 Spike TV
68 Home Shopping Network
69 Nick Jr Cable Home Theatre PPV Info
70 Local Weather Radar
71 Encore
72 Starz!
73 Sundance Channel
74 MoreMax
75 Travel Channel
76 Home & Garden Television
77 Comedy Central
78 C-SPAN
79 C-SPAN 2
80 TV Guide Channel (top)/Prevue Junior (bottom)
81 Municipal Programming
82 Video Marketplace
83 EWTN
84 The Insperational Network
85 Noggin-The N (top)/Stocks, Weather and Sports tickers (bottom)
86 Deutsche Welle TV
87 TBN
88 Hallmark Channel
89 Discovery Kids
90 DIY Network
91 TV Land
92 Soap Net
93 Tech TV
94 Style
95 Outdoor Life Network
96 ESPNEWS
97 Toon Disney
98 SuperStation WGN
99 Golf Channel
 
I'll cut 'branda' some slack, based on the mention of autism in his/her 'about me' description. Looks like a simple typo on the first line; should have been "Haksell cable", with Nick Jr. on the next line. No need to make a big deal out of it, I'm sure.
 
VHS Tape

...just came across an old VHS tape from November 1987 on which I happened to record the channel lineup of the Complete Channel system in Madison, Wisconsin. It looked like this:

TV
2 HBO
3 weather (character-generated NOAA reports with NOAA radio as the audio)
4 WYOU (the local public access channel, not the Scranton PA CBS affiliate)
5 WMTV/15 NBC
6 CNN
7 WKOW/27 ABC
8 WMSN/47 Fox
9 WGN/9 Chicago
10 ESPN
11 WHA-TV/21 PBS
12 CitiCable (Madison's municipal government channel)
13 WISC/3 CBS
14 WTBS/17 Atlanta
15 American Movie Classics/Fashion Television (split schedule)
16 Complete Channel's equipment testing channel
17 messages (?)
18 CNN Headline News
19 HSN
20 C-SPAN
21 WMVS/10 PBS (Milwaukee)
22 The Nashville Network
23 MTV
24 Showtime
25 Financial News Network/The Travel Channel (split schedule)
26 USA
27 Madison Public Schools
28 Christian Broadcasting Network
29 Nickelodeon
30 The Disney Channel
31 Lifetime
32 Cinemax
33 The Learning Channel
34 BET
35 VH-1
36 A&E
55 The Movie Channel

FM
89.1 WERN/88.7
89.5 WORT/89.9
90.5 HBO
90.9 WMTV
91.3 WKOW
91.7 WTBS
92.5 WMAD/92.1
93.7 ESPN
94.1 Madison police scanner
94.5 WILV
95.3 WHA-TV
95.7 WISC
96.1 VH-1
97.1 WSEY
97.5 WMVS
98.5 WMGN
98.9 WFMT Chicago
99.3 The Nashville Network
100.5 WWV (the Fort Collins CO shortwave time signal station)
101.1 WIBA-FM
102.9 WNWC
103.3 NOAA Weather
104.5 WZEE
105.5 MTV
105.9 WWQM-FM
106.9 WSJY
107.7 WHA-AM/970 Radio

Do you still happen to have this VHS tape? And if so, does it have anything from any of the local Madison channels from 1987 on it?
 
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