I have yet to see and hear the speak out. If you want my honest opinion, we need a Caribbean/Jamaican Reggae/Dancehall station in New York City since the metro area has the highest concentration of Afro-Caribbean and people who love Caribbean music.
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Another Christian FM For New York
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K-Love and Air1 I believe have a huge market share in New York City's metro area.
If they have a war chest of money to put on the table, they would "spare no expense" in bidding for any radio stations being put on the selling block.
This isn't about actual loggings, but about a newer and friendlier venue at which to spin some dial in the day.
See, I live indoors in a corner house where power lines run past the shorter front and along the 150 foot side. Making things even more charming is that the house is an attached / double, with a common wall and all its modern QRM devices on its other side. In the day, DX is impossible.
Two blocks west of here is a big field, some 300 feet wide and 500 feet long. There's a BPO lodge* in one corner. The big outside space even has a few benches, no doubt put there to entice and accomodate touring DXers who might sample some of the refreshments at the gin mill inside. I hauled a GE SR2 there a week ago at the exact midday, and can't recall the AM dial sounding that clear for decades. The 11:58 (really) noon lunch whistle then went off from water tower southeast of town, and I had to go home and take BP meds.
The setting is likely to be a bit inconvenient on a balmy 4 degree day in February. But I'll be back in the daytimes for a while, as I need maybe 3 AM stations to complete eastern Pennsylvania.
* If there are any questions raised, I'll cheerfully bring up a memory of the Lodge being busted a few years ago for illegal gambling. Any BPO uncertainty about my credentials might get me a few more TOH IDs.
See, I live indoors in a corner house where power lines run past the shorter front and along the 150 foot side. Making things even more charming is that the house is an attached / double, with a common wall and all its modern QRM devices on its other side. In the day, DX is impossible.
Two blocks west of here is a big field, some 300 feet wide and 500 feet long. There's a BPO lodge* in one corner. The big outside space even has a few benches, no doubt put there to entice and accomodate touring DXers who might sample some of the refreshments at the gin mill inside. I hauled a GE SR2 there a week ago at the exact midday, and can't recall the AM dial sounding that clear for decades. The 11:58 (really) noon lunch whistle then went off from water tower southeast of town, and I had to go home and take BP meds.
The setting is likely to be a bit inconvenient on a balmy 4 degree day in February. But I'll be back in the daytimes for a while, as I need maybe 3 AM stations to complete eastern Pennsylvania.
* If there are any questions raised, I'll cheerfully bring up a memory of the Lodge being busted a few years ago for illegal gambling. Any BPO uncertainty about my credentials might get me a few more TOH IDs.
Unfortunately for that concept, Nielsen does not do proportional and weighted subsets for any of what you are speaking of.
Most "Afro-Caribbean" people are covered with the Hispanic measurements, and that is why WSKQ is often the #1 station in NYC.
Non-Hispanic Afro-Caribbeans is a relatively small group comparatively and Nielsen has not taken any initiative to measure much larger ethnic groups, such as Asians, so this is not going to happen.
And without quantification, it is hard to sell advertising. Streaming, which has "built in" measurement, is the obvious answer... and it allows for multiple variants for different Caribbean groups.
Yesterday, The Gleaner, a Jamaican newspaper, published an article about the sale of WVIP.
"Shock as NY radio station WVIP 93.5 FM is sold" (The Gleaner)
IRIE FM published a short article that includes an audio message from radio host Micheboo Thompson. She said that Caribbean programming will continue for several months, after which a period of uncertainty will begin. She said that she will keep a positive attitude toward this development and that the impact of the sale will be "magnanimous."
"Caribbean Radio stations in NYC left homeless after sale" (IRIE FM)
"Shock as NY radio station WVIP 93.5 FM is sold" (The Gleaner)
IRIE FM published a short article that includes an audio message from radio host Micheboo Thompson. She said that Caribbean programming will continue for several months, after which a period of uncertainty will begin. She said that she will keep a positive attitude toward this development and that the impact of the sale will be "magnanimous."
"Caribbean Radio stations in NYC left homeless after sale" (IRIE FM)
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I wonder if that is, perhaps, $1000 a week for an hour, Monday to Friday?
A press release today on Christian Music Broadcasters Weekly (www.cmbonline.org) says that the WVIP/NYC format will be the organizations "Vida Unida" already on the air in Houston and Miami (full power) and seven other HD & Translator stations in various markets on Hope Media Group, WayFM O & O's.
(Apologies to all vis a vis my post about DXing that wound up here. It was meant for the DX Forum. Wrong button, I guess.)
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I've had some trouble signing out of RadioDiscussions sites lately. Again, though, my error.
I'm wondering if a non-commercial listener donation driven station would be viable, if a potential issue is how ratings would drive ad sales.
According to an article in today's edition of AllAccess, "WVIP covers about 3.8 million HISPANIC population." My guess is not nearly that many listeners can receive it well.
But even if the actual number of people who have good reception is around 40% of this amount, that's still a large potential audience. Probably much larger than the amount of people of Caribbean origin residing within signal range.
But even if the actual number of people who have good reception is around 40% of this amount, that's still a large potential audience. Probably much larger than the amount of people of Caribbean origin residing within signal range.
That would indicate Spanish-language programming, so the West Indian listeners won't be served at all by the new ownership.
That is no doubt nearly possible. It's 60 dbu gets about 9 million, and the area is highly Hispanic. But well over half the Hispanics in NYC do not use Spanish language radio. The Puerto Ricans in any useful sales demos are in the third and fourth generation now, as migration from the Island ended around 1968 to 1970... almost 50 years ago. And, among Hispanics that do speak Spanish, Nielsen is putting over half the sample with Dominicans... and Mega has that group tied up.
There is a significant Mexican population, but they are not in that coverage area as much as other areas and many are not documented so they will never, ever "carry a pager that can track them".
So for a religious format, they have to pick a group that they can serve in their language. For things as personal as religion, "Puerto Rican" is not the same language as "Dominican" and definitely not the same as Ecuadorian or Mexican or the like.
In Puerto Rico, "cojer la guagua" means "catch the bus". In Ecuador it means "f--ck a baby". You can't do emotional preaching in a vernacular, and you can't engage in neutral Spanish.
But if you narrow it to Spanish dominants who use radio and then, for a religious format, to those who speak a particular dialect, the field is narrowed immensely.
The question is..."WHEN"???
Seems highly unlikely Dominican (or any other) people that want to hear religious music would listen exclusively to Mega (or Amor).
Since the featured programming on Vida Unida is primarily music, I doubt that some regional differences in colloquial expressions would be a major deterrent to people from various Latin American countries listening to this station.
I wonder if any Catholic Hispanics would also be attracted by the Vida Unida format but I highly doubt so.
I recall on another thread a while back you said something to the effect that Spanish language CCM was fairly universal, while spoken word religion was not. Vida Unida is music intensive, pretty much a Spanish language EMF-style format, or as we’ve noted in Houston, a Spanish language KSBJ. In that context would there be a dialect issue? I have never heard anything resembling preaching when tuning across Vida Unida.
I did not know it was so music intensive. However, most contemporary Christian music today comes from the US, the Caribbean Basin and some from Mexico. So it will likely do well with all those groups if the lyrics are watched for the many words that mean something entirely different in various countries.
Evangelical Christianity is spreading from north to south, having originated in Puerto Rico where the movement has been active for at least 50 years. It is newer to other nations where at one time well over 90% of all people were Catholic.
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