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Another Kiss Goodbye

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Kiss 108's Weekender Trey gone from their website, along with Deirdres page. Shelly Wade appears in the mid day time slot with no page. Kiss and CC probably spent more on themeing there website for the Holidays than on the Mid day show. Anybody with info on where Trey went? Sent packing forcefully or voluntarily?
 
Very sad but you know none of their listeners will have a clue. That is even sadder!.
 
I just came from Naples, FL. Listened to a few of the CC sta down there. No oldies sta there. Up to a couple of years ago they were the sta to listen to. Weren't afraid to play the good tunes. In came CC's know it alls and there goes that format. Seems there is no market for that old skewing format. The Smooth Jazz sta(WZJZ) also CC has only one live shift left. Ten to three. Ramsey Lewis(mornings), Dave Hoz(afternoon) Amy Ashe(evenings)(from Boston) plus the overnight guy are all voice tracked. Maybe CC should take some of that money they are getting from their sales of over 400 stations nationwide. Imagine turning Kiss108 into a bone yard after all these years. The money that has rolled in the front door of CC in Medford plus very respectable ratings(always top 5)Look what they've done with WKOXKS. Their big shot spokes person says it was coming. Guess what when 1200 goes full power(50,000 watts D/N) I'll bet they'll be another change in format. Ratings will be the main reason. I wonder what their expectations will be. It seems to me Boston metro doesn't wait long on a format. I don't see CC doing a lot of advertising in the Naples, FL market(Ft Myers/Naples). Doesn't CC own one of the major outdoor advertising companies in the US???? That's my rant for now. I don't post much on this site but I felt it was time. Thanks for reading. Happy Holidays to all on the Boston board.
 
I don't get CCs mind set when cutting staff etc.. Its terrible to cut anybody but why not cut down to the minimum that at least all prime day parts are live and local? It only makes sense? What's next, Every CC station does Seacrest in the morning? Speaking of one station in particular, look at Kiis FM in LA.(www.kiisfm.com) They have SOO many staff members, not even all are on air parts, some party patrol and side kicks, extra DJs to mix music. Its ridiculous that Deidre Dagata is sitting home listening to a voice tracked midday on Kiss while those people are collecting money for basically being sidekicks and doing no DJ work. Even the Z100 morning Zoo (www.z100.com) has maybe a few too many. Yes, both stations are legendary but cuts shouldn't have emphasis on "Well thats our number 1 market.... lets screw #11 to keep this guy on" Theres other ways to make and save money guys.. do some research. It just upsets me, especially at the holiday, to see people out of work when they are great talents.
 
bostonmusicman said:
Theres other ways to make and save money guys.. do some research.

I just did. I Googled "Lowry Mays salary." He made $6 million dollars in 2005. Why not pay him $5,950,000, and pay Deidre Dagata $50,000? That way, they can both have jobs, and Lowry will still have all the money he could possibly need, and then some.

It amazes me that we continue to live in a society where things like this are acceptable.
 
I agree but one would think that if somebody as great as Deidre were being fired and mid days were being voiced from NYC that somebody would step up to the plate and say "Hey lets cut funding here instead, or what about cutting some salaries down and giving the adiditional to Deidre?" Its a shame to see somebody out of a job at the holiday. But thats just an ideal world....
 
AS unpopular as this will be, I dont think Lowry May's salary is the issue. In reality for a company as large as CC is his salary is not so outrageous! it's actually pretty conservative by comparison to most ceo's in other fields. The bigger problem is that clear channel like WAl Mart is just too big. Too big to the point where it is barely possible to manage. They are the largest owner of stations in the world, so in that sense they are already number one. Where do they have to go? nowhere but down. So the larger they get, the more difficult to manage, and the edict becomes less about making more money but spending less money and so you have a voicetracked mid day show in market number 11. I know we want to think about it in the human terms but the truth is that they got to a certain point in business where the only direction to go is down. SO you save maybe seventy five thousand dollars in salary and replace it with a ten to fifteen thousand dollar a YEAR voice tracking expense, there is the explaination. IT does Dierdre no good but that is probably what went on. Look at the New York board, WNEW (cbs) just fired their entire airstaff this week with the assumption of a format flip soon. It has become even more heartless than it has always been in radio.
 
TowerBuzz said:
AS unpopular as this will be, I dont think Lowry May's salary is the issue. In reality for a company as large as CC is his salary is not so outrageous! it's actually pretty conservative by comparison to most ceo's in other fields. The bigger problem is that clear channel like WAl Mart is just too big. Too big to the point where it is barely possible to manage. They are the largest owner of stations in the world, so in that sense they are already number one. Where do they have to go? nowhere but down. So the larger they get, the more difficult to manage, and the edict becomes less about making more money but spending less money and so you have a voicetracked mid day show in market number 11. I know we want to think about it in the human terms but the truth is that they got to a certain point in business where the only direction to go is down. SO you save maybe seventy five thousand dollars in salary and replace it with a ten to fifteen thousand dollar a YEAR voice tracking expense, there is the explaination. IT does Dierdre no good but that is probably what went on. Look at the New York board, WNEW (cbs) just fired their entire airstaff this week with the assumption of a format flip soon. It has become even more heartless than it has always been in radio.

at least all clear channel's local stations have d-j's. entercom has mike and greater media has no jocks on wbos in the am drive. that's way more pathetic than voice-tracking.
 
I agree having VT is probably better than just straight up automation and jockless but if they are looking for cost effectiveness... Why not just go with no DJ? Isn't a locally produced show with a live LOCAL Boston DJ better than a canned NY DJ doing the job with no real understanding of the Boston life or goings on in the city? Is Shelly gonna talk about the Pats or the Sox like Deidre did? I'd personally rather hear jockless mid-days.. I think WBOS' morning music with no talk is successful, alot of people don't have much of a care for talk in the AM.
 
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at least all clear channel's local stations have d-j's. entercom has mike and greater media has no jocks on wbos in the am drive. that's way more pathetic than voice-tracking.
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I dont think wbos's non jocked morning show is an economic decision, just a bad programming decision.
 
bostonmusicman said:
Kiss 108's Weekender Trey gone from their website, along with Deirdres page. Shelly Wade appears in the mid day time slot with no page. Kiss and CC probably spent more on themeing there website for the Holidays than on the Mid day show. Anybody with info on where Trey went? Sent packing forcefully or voluntarily?


He's been off air at KISS for a few months now...he's still on KC101 rockin' the airwaves.
 
Kiss is terrible with updates on their website. I only would've known that from the site as I wouldn't be listening during Trey's slot.. I'll check KC101 Though thanks.
 
TowerBuzz said:
Very sad but you know none of their listeners will have a clue. That is even sadder!.

If the listeners don't care, what does it matter? Aren't the listeners the point? If they're happy with voicetracking, they're happy; end of story. The days of the BCN strike are long, long, long gone. Radio just isn't what it once was (in fact, it may have never been what we remember, but that's a different topic).

Opps, I mentioned BCN; countdown to Valsaline's mainditory Oedipus rant...3....2...1....
 
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