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RobertMoore
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...This time its Fresno, where Infinity says "Adios" to Spanish Top 40 KEDG(Viva 106) and hello to 105.9 JACK-FM.
BTW here's the website www.viva106.com
BTW here's the website www.viva106.com
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mrichards
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When the heck are they gonna buy a station in Albany New York already and turn it Jack FM?? This is ridiculas. This market needs Jack Bad and they are ignoring it and meanwhile a lot of people are writing to Chad Brown at CBSFM and writing to Infinity and calling CBSFM's Request Line about it. Infinity should be bringing it here already, this is where it will do great.
> ...This time its Fresno, where Infinity says "Adios" to
> Spanish Top 40 KEDG(Viva 106) and hello to 105.9 JACK-FM.
>
> BTW here's the website www.viva106.com
>
> ...This time its Fresno, where Infinity says "Adios" to
> Spanish Top 40 KEDG(Viva 106) and hello to 105.9 JACK-FM.
>
> BTW here's the website www.viva106.com
>
> > ...This time its Fresno, where Infinity says "Adios" to
> > Spanish Top 40 KEDG(Viva 106) and hello to 105.9 JACK-FM.
>
> >
> > BTW here's the website www.viva106.com
> >
>
I don't know enough about that particular market to give a good, honest and fair "good business decision" opinion, but I do wonder why there's no Spanish Jack.<P ID="signature">______________
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> > Spanish Top 40 KEDG(Viva 106) and hello to 105.9 JACK-FM.
>
> >
> > BTW here's the website www.viva106.com
> >
>
I don't know enough about that particular market to give a good, honest and fair "good business decision" opinion, but I do wonder why there's no Spanish Jack.<P ID="signature">______________
"If you never say NO, How much is your YES worth?"
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Joseph_Gallant
Guest
I presume that like the other "Jack"'s, this one will run jockless on a long-term basis.
> I presume that like the other "Jack"'s, this one will run
> jockless on a long-term basis.
>
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> jockless on a long-term basis.
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> ...This time its Fresno, where Infinity says "Adios" to
> Spanish Top 40 KEDG(Viva 106) and hello to 105.9 JACK-FM.
>
> BTW here's the website www.viva106.com
>
Actually, that was KKDG and according to radio-locator.com, the calls have already changed to KFJK.
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> Spanish Top 40 KEDG(Viva 106) and hello to 105.9 JACK-FM.
>
> BTW here's the website www.viva106.com
>
Actually, that was KKDG and according to radio-locator.com, the calls have already changed to KFJK.
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barrisfan
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has anyone got an aircheck of the flip????
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FMRadio1
Guest
Because Albany has WRVE. That station, a rock AC, plays a lot of the same music as most of the Jacks do. Yes, I know Jack would be different, but I don't think it would be different enough for the River's listeners to make the switch. Obviously Clear Channel won't do it, since they're not into the format anyway and they own RVE plus the oldies station. I suppose Pamal could switch one of their struggling FM's to Jack but it would probably not have a sufficient signal to do much damage. Knowing that outfit, they'd just sign on a Jack clone anyway and it would fail miserably.
BTW, Infinity does not decide where Jack-FM will wind up. Sparknet is the group that holds the rights to "Jack-FM." Any ownership group can contract with them to secure the rights in a particular market. Midwest TV-owned KFMB-FM in San Diego is an official Jack, not an Infinity station.
Mike Thomas
> When the heck are they gonna buy a station in Albany New
> York already and turn it Jack FM?? This is ridiculas. This
> market needs Jack Bad and they are ignoring it and meanwhile
> a lot of people are writing to Chad Brown at CBSFM and
> writing to Infinity and calling CBSFM's Request Line about
> it. Infinity should be bringing it here already, this is
> where it will do great.
BTW, Infinity does not decide where Jack-FM will wind up. Sparknet is the group that holds the rights to "Jack-FM." Any ownership group can contract with them to secure the rights in a particular market. Midwest TV-owned KFMB-FM in San Diego is an official Jack, not an Infinity station.
Mike Thomas
> When the heck are they gonna buy a station in Albany New
> York already and turn it Jack FM?? This is ridiculas. This
> market needs Jack Bad and they are ignoring it and meanwhile
> a lot of people are writing to Chad Brown at CBSFM and
> writing to Infinity and calling CBSFM's Request Line about
> it. Infinity should be bringing it here already, this is
> where it will do great.
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mrichards
Guest
Mike,
I have listened and compared WRVE 99.5 with Jack FM and there is a difference between WRVE & Jack. Jack FM has a better playlist and goes from rock, rhythmic, pop etc Jack goes into a lot of formats and half of those formats are not in this market plus a great collection of songs with 1500-3000 in rotation which would make Jack a success. For Clear Channel to do a move like this it would be no good since they are getting sued for their Steve FM plus if they took 98.3, 99.5 or another station for Jack it would be like New York City and how everyone felt about when it took over 101.1 I would say another company here in Albany can definitly pick up the Jack FM format from Sparknet or ABC Radio's 24 hour satalite feed version of it. Believe It or not, a lot of people including myself want Jack FM here. Another thing it must be on a station that has a good signal here like 94.5, 103.5/103.9, 104.9, 96.7, 93.7 and they would have to publisize on it, make it known to the capital region that Jack FM is here and what freq it's on with ads all over buses, billboards, tv spots etc. WRVE ain't nothing like Jack, they are just one of your ordinary rock stations that don't play much of anything all that good and Jack FM does. I also understand Sparknet has the rights to Jack FM and if a company wants to have rights to it for their station they contract with Sparknet. I have spoken with GM of WCBSFM Chad Brown and back in the summertime he said that this market is eventually gonna have JackFM and this market will be adapted to it too. To me this is a great market to open a Jack FM up and only Jack FM. And remember one thing if Jack FM comes here and does really well which i don't see why not, then CC would be switching WRVE to something else when everyone that has 99.5 on goes to Jack FM for the better music mix.
Because Albany has WRVE. That station, a rock AC, plays a
> lot of the same music as most of the Jacks do. Yes, I know
> Jack would be different, but I don't think it would be
> different enough for the River's listeners to make the
> switch. Obviously Clear Channel won't do it, since they're
> not into the format anyway and they own RVE plus the oldies
> station. I suppose Pamal could switch one of their
> struggling FM's to Jack but it would probably not have a
> sufficient signal to do much damage. Knowing that outfit,
> they'd just sign on a Jack clone anyway and it would fail
> miserably.
>
> BTW, Infinity does not decide where Jack-FM will wind up.
> Sparknet is the group that holds the rights to "Jack-FM."
> Any ownership group can contract with them to secure the
> rights in a particular market. Midwest TV-owned KFMB-FM in
> San Diego is an official Jack, not an Infinity station.
>
> Mike Thomas
>
> > When the heck are they gonna buy a station in Albany New
> > York already and turn it Jack FM?? This is ridiculas. This
>
> > market needs Jack Bad and they are ignoring it and
> meanwhile
> > a lot of people are writing to Chad Brown at CBSFM and
> > writing to Infinity and calling CBSFM's Request Line about
>
> > it. Infinity should be bringing it here already, this is
> > where it will do great.
>
I have listened and compared WRVE 99.5 with Jack FM and there is a difference between WRVE & Jack. Jack FM has a better playlist and goes from rock, rhythmic, pop etc Jack goes into a lot of formats and half of those formats are not in this market plus a great collection of songs with 1500-3000 in rotation which would make Jack a success. For Clear Channel to do a move like this it would be no good since they are getting sued for their Steve FM plus if they took 98.3, 99.5 or another station for Jack it would be like New York City and how everyone felt about when it took over 101.1 I would say another company here in Albany can definitly pick up the Jack FM format from Sparknet or ABC Radio's 24 hour satalite feed version of it. Believe It or not, a lot of people including myself want Jack FM here. Another thing it must be on a station that has a good signal here like 94.5, 103.5/103.9, 104.9, 96.7, 93.7 and they would have to publisize on it, make it known to the capital region that Jack FM is here and what freq it's on with ads all over buses, billboards, tv spots etc. WRVE ain't nothing like Jack, they are just one of your ordinary rock stations that don't play much of anything all that good and Jack FM does. I also understand Sparknet has the rights to Jack FM and if a company wants to have rights to it for their station they contract with Sparknet. I have spoken with GM of WCBSFM Chad Brown and back in the summertime he said that this market is eventually gonna have JackFM and this market will be adapted to it too. To me this is a great market to open a Jack FM up and only Jack FM. And remember one thing if Jack FM comes here and does really well which i don't see why not, then CC would be switching WRVE to something else when everyone that has 99.5 on goes to Jack FM for the better music mix.
Because Albany has WRVE. That station, a rock AC, plays a
> lot of the same music as most of the Jacks do. Yes, I know
> Jack would be different, but I don't think it would be
> different enough for the River's listeners to make the
> switch. Obviously Clear Channel won't do it, since they're
> not into the format anyway and they own RVE plus the oldies
> station. I suppose Pamal could switch one of their
> struggling FM's to Jack but it would probably not have a
> sufficient signal to do much damage. Knowing that outfit,
> they'd just sign on a Jack clone anyway and it would fail
> miserably.
>
> BTW, Infinity does not decide where Jack-FM will wind up.
> Sparknet is the group that holds the rights to "Jack-FM."
> Any ownership group can contract with them to secure the
> rights in a particular market. Midwest TV-owned KFMB-FM in
> San Diego is an official Jack, not an Infinity station.
>
> Mike Thomas
>
> > When the heck are they gonna buy a station in Albany New
> > York already and turn it Jack FM?? This is ridiculas. This
>
> > market needs Jack Bad and they are ignoring it and
> meanwhile
> > a lot of people are writing to Chad Brown at CBSFM and
> > writing to Infinity and calling CBSFM's Request Line about
>
> > it. Infinity should be bringing it here already, this is
> > where it will do great.
>
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FMRadio1
Guest
> I have listened and compared WRVE 99.5 with Jack FM and
> there is a difference between WRVE & Jack. Jack FM has a
> better playlist and goes from rock, rhythmic, pop etc
Most of the popular Variety Hits stations are primarily rock based with some pop and rhythmic stuff as the spice. I agree the playlist is more expansive, but there's still more rock leaning Hot AC stuff in the mix than anything else.
> Jack goes into a lot of formats and half of those formats are not
> in this market plus a great collection of songs with
> 1500-3000 in rotation which would make Jack a success.
Actually, most Jacks have about 1000-1200 titles rotating at any one time and many of those songs are in lunar rotations. About half of those titles rotate fairly quickly, making it only slightly better than a typical Hot AC or Classic Rocker.
> For Clear Channel to do a move like this it would be no good
> since they are getting sued for their Steve FM plus if they
> took 98.3, 99.5 or another station for Jack it would be like
> New York City and how everyone felt about when it took over 101.1
If CC thought they could make more money with Jack than the formats currently on those frequencies, they'd blow one of them up in a heartbeat. Between WTRY and WRVE, they have the "retro pop/rock" angle covered in the market. At this point they don't need to do it.
> I would say another company here in Albany can
> definitly pick up the Jack FM format from Sparknet or ABC
> Radio's 24 hour satalite feed version of it. Believe It or
> not, a lot of people including myself want Jack FM here.
I'm sure they could but the question is who, and will they be willing to spend the money for the Jack name or clone it themselves. Considering it's Regent and Pamal we're talking about, the cheap clone is more likely.
Also, who is "a lot of people?" My guess is most Albany radio listeners don't know what a Jack-FM is or what kind of music they play.
> Another thing it must be on a station that has a good signal
> here like 94.5, 103.5/103.9, 104.9, 96.7, 93.7 and they
> would have to publisize on it, make it known to the capital
> region that Jack FM is here and what freq it's on with ads
> all over buses, billboards, tv spots etc.
Again, will either company spend the money to do it right? Including promoting it. I don't think so at the moment. Maybe if the format continues to take off someone will try it.
> WRVE ain't nothing like Jack, they are just one of your ordinary rock
> stations that don't play much of anything all that good and Jack FM
> does. I also understand Sparknet has the rights to Jack FM
> and if a company wants to have rights to it for their
> station they contract with Sparknet.
I understand you want the format, but up to this point there doesn't seem to be a glaring need for it in Albany.
> I have spoken with GM
> of WCBSFM Chad Brown and back in the summertime he said that
> this market is eventually gonna have JackFM and this market
> will be adapted to it too. To me this is a great market to
> open a Jack FM up and only Jack FM.
Again, you want Jack, but will Regent or Pamal pay for Jack? My guess is that Albany will get a clone when the market is ready for a Variety Hits station.
> And remember one thing
> if Jack FM comes here and does really well which i don't see
> why not, then CC would be switching WRVE to something else
> when everyone that has 99.5 on goes to Jack FM for the
> better music mix.
I don't think CC will be hitting the panic button. WRVE, like them or not, has a ton of heritage and is pretty highly rated. They won't be too pulsed by a clone on a weaker Pamal or Regent signal, which is what the market will probably get.
--Mike Thomas
> there is a difference between WRVE & Jack. Jack FM has a
> better playlist and goes from rock, rhythmic, pop etc
Most of the popular Variety Hits stations are primarily rock based with some pop and rhythmic stuff as the spice. I agree the playlist is more expansive, but there's still more rock leaning Hot AC stuff in the mix than anything else.
> Jack goes into a lot of formats and half of those formats are not
> in this market plus a great collection of songs with
> 1500-3000 in rotation which would make Jack a success.
Actually, most Jacks have about 1000-1200 titles rotating at any one time and many of those songs are in lunar rotations. About half of those titles rotate fairly quickly, making it only slightly better than a typical Hot AC or Classic Rocker.
> For Clear Channel to do a move like this it would be no good
> since they are getting sued for their Steve FM plus if they
> took 98.3, 99.5 or another station for Jack it would be like
> New York City and how everyone felt about when it took over 101.1
If CC thought they could make more money with Jack than the formats currently on those frequencies, they'd blow one of them up in a heartbeat. Between WTRY and WRVE, they have the "retro pop/rock" angle covered in the market. At this point they don't need to do it.
> I would say another company here in Albany can
> definitly pick up the Jack FM format from Sparknet or ABC
> Radio's 24 hour satalite feed version of it. Believe It or
> not, a lot of people including myself want Jack FM here.
I'm sure they could but the question is who, and will they be willing to spend the money for the Jack name or clone it themselves. Considering it's Regent and Pamal we're talking about, the cheap clone is more likely.
Also, who is "a lot of people?" My guess is most Albany radio listeners don't know what a Jack-FM is or what kind of music they play.
> Another thing it must be on a station that has a good signal
> here like 94.5, 103.5/103.9, 104.9, 96.7, 93.7 and they
> would have to publisize on it, make it known to the capital
> region that Jack FM is here and what freq it's on with ads
> all over buses, billboards, tv spots etc.
Again, will either company spend the money to do it right? Including promoting it. I don't think so at the moment. Maybe if the format continues to take off someone will try it.
> WRVE ain't nothing like Jack, they are just one of your ordinary rock
> stations that don't play much of anything all that good and Jack FM
> does. I also understand Sparknet has the rights to Jack FM
> and if a company wants to have rights to it for their
> station they contract with Sparknet.
I understand you want the format, but up to this point there doesn't seem to be a glaring need for it in Albany.
> I have spoken with GM
> of WCBSFM Chad Brown and back in the summertime he said that
> this market is eventually gonna have JackFM and this market
> will be adapted to it too. To me this is a great market to
> open a Jack FM up and only Jack FM.
Again, you want Jack, but will Regent or Pamal pay for Jack? My guess is that Albany will get a clone when the market is ready for a Variety Hits station.
> And remember one thing
> if Jack FM comes here and does really well which i don't see
> why not, then CC would be switching WRVE to something else
> when everyone that has 99.5 on goes to Jack FM for the
> better music mix.
I don't think CC will be hitting the panic button. WRVE, like them or not, has a ton of heritage and is pretty highly rated. They won't be too pulsed by a clone on a weaker Pamal or Regent signal, which is what the market will probably get.
--Mike Thomas
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