Mid-day anchor Scott Crowder is out..his last day is Monday. This is apparently a Citadel thing, but he's known since January (?). Hear the position will be filled by...wait for it...a Metro person.
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ANOTHER ONE GONE AT WBAP
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lbates
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That reeks. Scott Crowder is a very nice guy. Very passioned in his libertarian politcs,but a damn fine reporter. BTW he started doing news there as a metro employee,then WBAP hired him. From 5a-6p the reporters are on WBAP's payroll 6p-5a its metro .Weekends 5a-12p its wbap's dime,the rest is metro. Metro also does KLIF's news. If they let go Lance, Ellie,and Rick, then say goodbye to the newsroom. Corporate radio profit before quality.
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gpzyzyzf
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No offense guys....but unless anyone has any "insider" information (and if you do...why are you keeping it to yourself)....any chance this is just a mutual parting of the ways....without the big corporate intrusion or "cheapening of a great legend" (as Slambang said)
I don't know anymore than what is on this board.....but I guess I would rather all of us (me included) maybe waited to hear more than go with the conspiracy theory right off the bat!
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I don't know anymore than what is on this board.....but I guess I would rather all of us (me included) maybe waited to hear more than go with the conspiracy theory right off the bat!
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spinderella
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lbates said:
Jim Ryan and Amy Chodrock are still there IIRC.
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MikeShannon914
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Scott's a class act and a good guy and the consummate professional...I will miss him. He was the first person I ever did traffic for, way back when, and we've worked together on the air many, many times since. I hate to see him out there looking for a job, especially after the recent USA Radio Network buyout and others getting laid off from CC and CBS...the local industry job market is VERY thin right now, and we all know what it (doesn't) pay.
But there's been that slow 'chipping away' of the news talent over the last few years...Steve Cumming comes to mind first, then of course, Dan Potter. At least Citadel's been generally kinder to its Top 5 market blowtorch than to some of its other holdings in other cities.
I believe it's "Chodroff."
You know she's married to KTVT reporter Jack Fink...but no one's surprised that she still uses her maiden name!!
But there's been that slow 'chipping away' of the news talent over the last few years...Steve Cumming comes to mind first, then of course, Dan Potter. At least Citadel's been generally kinder to its Top 5 market blowtorch than to some of its other holdings in other cities.
John Pendolino is still there as well. Dan Lewis is back doing overnights on weekends.spinderella said:
I believe it's "Chodroff."
You know she's married to KTVT reporter Jack Fink...but no one's surprised that she still uses her maiden name!!
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BobLeonard
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As the Metro employee who will be doing a lot of the midday stuff at WBAP, I can assure you it was not a mutual parting of the ways. Scott is one of the truly "good guys" in this business....and, yes, he has known for a while. I was a product of part of the bloodshed at ABC when Citadel was going over the books for the buyout. After a 40 year career, I've spent the last 3 doing part time gigs trying to get the bills paid......including USA Radio where we all were recently let go. My wife is at Metro also.....part time also. It becomes a trickle down thing. Full timers get blown out and become part timers to pick up hours wherever they can. I wouldn't quite throw myself into the trained monkey category, though.....just trying to keep afloat. Scott will land on his feet. He's a very talented guy and everyone in the newsroom feels horrible about it, but, it is, after all, the nature of the industry these days.
Anyone curious what this little democratic experiment called America looks like in 25 years after corporate ownership and their damn beancounters destroy news outlets (and though we're definitely talking radio here, consider how small most TV news operations are in DFW as well as how pathetic our two once-decent daily newspapers are)? Thomas Jefferson is quoted as having said, "If I had to choose between a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I would choose newspapers without a government." I'm sure he would have added radio and TV news there, too had there been such a thing in the 18th century. Sadly, we may see in our lifetime what a government without an independent press looks like.
On the micro level, I'm very sorry to here about Scott Crowder. I've never met the man, but his reporting and anchoring always seemed solid. I'm also sorry for all of you who have fallen under the continuing slashing of full-time positions. On a macro level, I'm very sorry for our country. Journalists are like lawyers: people don't like them until they need them.
On the micro level, I'm very sorry to here about Scott Crowder. I've never met the man, but his reporting and anchoring always seemed solid. I'm also sorry for all of you who have fallen under the continuing slashing of full-time positions. On a macro level, I'm very sorry for our country. Journalists are like lawyers: people don't like them until they need them.
It's not corporate ownership thats destroyed newsrooms and newspapers, it's the internet. Read any major study about where people get their news from these days, and you see it's a lot less TV, radio and newspaper and a lot more internet. Getting news, especially on radio, just isn't the priority that it once was for people. It's why KRLD can't crack the top 20 25-54. And I'd venture a guess that it's why WBAP thinks they can outsource their news staff.
And with all due respect to Scott, let me ask you guys a question. If you tune in to WBAP when Scott was working, was it for Scott's fine work or to hear Mark, Rush, Sean, etc? In other words, what is it that really draws you to that station? The news reader or the host and their opinions?
With all due respect to Bob Leonard (Who I don't think I know or have heard before) as long as he doesn't completely suck, odds are I'll continue listening to WBAP on the drive home after my shift.
I'm sorry to see Scott lose his job, but frankly, the news guy isn't what I'm listening for. And I'd bet that there's a lot of people who feel the same way.
And if you don't think that's true, ask yourself this....If Scott was to go to work at Air America (assuming they were on here in Dallas) how many of the WBAP isteners do you think would follow him over there?
News guys, traffic reporters, production and imaging voices, they're all side dishes to the main course that people order...You might not like the combos on the menu, but most stations aren't offered a la carte. You can't get the content of WBAP with the news guy from KSKY, the traffic reporter from KVIL, the imaging from Jack and the production from the Ticket.
And with all due respect to Scott, let me ask you guys a question. If you tune in to WBAP when Scott was working, was it for Scott's fine work or to hear Mark, Rush, Sean, etc? In other words, what is it that really draws you to that station? The news reader or the host and their opinions?
With all due respect to Bob Leonard (Who I don't think I know or have heard before) as long as he doesn't completely suck, odds are I'll continue listening to WBAP on the drive home after my shift.
I'm sorry to see Scott lose his job, but frankly, the news guy isn't what I'm listening for. And I'd bet that there's a lot of people who feel the same way.
And if you don't think that's true, ask yourself this....If Scott was to go to work at Air America (assuming they were on here in Dallas) how many of the WBAP isteners do you think would follow him over there?
News guys, traffic reporters, production and imaging voices, they're all side dishes to the main course that people order...You might not like the combos on the menu, but most stations aren't offered a la carte. You can't get the content of WBAP with the news guy from KSKY, the traffic reporter from KVIL, the imaging from Jack and the production from the Ticket.
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As for KRLD, once you p**s away an audience, it is very hard to get it back.
Little1 misses a key point: To succeed, a station has to have a connection with their listeners. Having reporters on the street, meeting people, covering the things people care about, and building relationships is one way to do that. (They used to call it 'Goodwill'.) I believe the cutbacks that remove those people from the street have contributed to the declines you reference.
I used that tactic in a smaller market about 20 years ago. I made contacts, made friends, kept it interesting, but gave the listeners the news the local n/t station wasn't getting. Ratings went up. Management changed. The new PD had no concept of news as anything but a tuneout factor. I was shown the door. I joined the morning shows at a competetor. One went up 4 points. The other went up 6 points. The station I left lost 5 points.
As to Scott Crowder, He's a good guy, a competent newsman, a whiz at computers and a pleasure to work with. If I were a news director with an opening, I'd hire him in a heartbeat.
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Yeah, that's why WINS is one of the highest billing stations in America, and long-time market leaders like WCCO, KMOX, KDKA etc etc hang on while the world turns its back on AM.
As for KRLD, once you p**s away an audience, it is very hard to get it back.
Little1 misses a key point: To succeed, a station has to have a connection with their listeners. Having reporters on the street, meeting people, covering the things people care about, and building relationships is one way to do that. (They used to call it 'Goodwill'.) I believe the cutbacks that remove those people from the street have contributed to the declines you reference.
I used that tactic in a smaller market about 20 years ago. I made contacts, made friends, kept it interesting, but gave the listeners the news the local n/t station wasn't getting. Ratings went up. Management changed. The new PD had no concept of news as anything but a tuneout factor. I was shown the door. I joined the morning shows at a competetor. One went up 4 points. The other went up 6 points. The station I left lost 5 points.
As to Scott Crowder, He's a good guy, a competent newsman, a whiz at computers and a pleasure to work with. If I were a news director with an opening, I'd hire him in a heartbeat.
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lbates
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Scott Crowder one of the best. Little One, Grant , has admitted he doesnt care about radio only "number 1"and his 401 k". He has summed up todays radio management very well in those few words.
Citadel is a CC wannabe. Cuts=Profit mentality instead of innovative, supported (from management)creative programming. Profitswill go up,however they prefer theeasy way out...cuts.
Citadel is a CC wannabe. Cuts=Profit mentality instead of innovative, supported (from management)creative programming. Profitswill go up,however they prefer theeasy way out...cuts.
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