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RobertMoore
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Today(August 31st) President Bush is expected to address the nation and the world on live TV with a live press conference at 5PM(ET)/4PM(CT)/2PM(PT).
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> Today(August 31st) President Bush is expected to address the
> nation and the world on live TV with a live press conference
> at 5PM(ET)/4PM(CT)/2PM(PT).
A speech. That will help. Tell him to bring some army troops, buckets, CASH, and whatever is left of the National Guard and get it all down to Louisiana and surrounding areas.
Why is it that politicians always see a chance to make pointless speeches and mug for cameras during tragedies.
> nation and the world on live TV with a live press conference
> at 5PM(ET)/4PM(CT)/2PM(PT).
A speech. That will help. Tell him to bring some army troops, buckets, CASH, and whatever is left of the National Guard and get it all down to Louisiana and surrounding areas.
Why is it that politicians always see a chance to make pointless speeches and mug for cameras during tragedies.
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Joseph_Gallant
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Earlier this morning (August 31st), Matt Drudge reported on his website that there was a possibility that were the President to make a TV address (which he ended up doing shortly after 5 P.M. EDT), that he would urge Americans to conserve gasoline, since it appears there will be gasoline shortages with much oil production and refining in the Gulf of Mexico having been temporarilly suspended due to Hurricane Katrina.
But in the speech itself, the President made only brief references to oil supplies and did not mention the "C" (as in "conservation") word.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Joseph_Gallant on 08/31/05 09:30 PM.</FONT></P>
But in the speech itself, the President made only brief references to oil supplies and did not mention the "C" (as in "conservation") word.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Joseph_Gallant on 08/31/05 09:30 PM.</FONT></P>
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russhaney
Guest
> > Today(August 31st) President Bush is expected to address
> the
> > nation and the world on live TV with a live press
> conference
> > at 5PM(ET)/4PM(CT)/2PM(PT).
>
> A speech. That will help. Tell him to bring some army
> troops, buckets, CASH, and whatever is left of the National
> Guard and get it all down to Louisiana and surrounding
> areas.
>
> Why is it that politicians always see a chance to make
> pointless speeches and mug for cameras during tragedies.
>
WTF does politics have to do with a major natural disaster? You have a serious issue. It's the President of the United States for christ's sake. Do you think family members would rather hear whats going on with this by the President or twisted, bogus reports from CNN?
You sound like some left wing kid that just wants to bitch and moan about the lamest things... I guess you forgot who's brother has been trhough more hurricanes than any other politician in this country.
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> the
> > nation and the world on live TV with a live press
> conference
> > at 5PM(ET)/4PM(CT)/2PM(PT).
>
> A speech. That will help. Tell him to bring some army
> troops, buckets, CASH, and whatever is left of the National
> Guard and get it all down to Louisiana and surrounding
> areas.
>
> Why is it that politicians always see a chance to make
> pointless speeches and mug for cameras during tragedies.
>
WTF does politics have to do with a major natural disaster? You have a serious issue. It's the President of the United States for christ's sake. Do you think family members would rather hear whats going on with this by the President or twisted, bogus reports from CNN?
You sound like some left wing kid that just wants to bitch and moan about the lamest things... I guess you forgot who's brother has been trhough more hurricanes than any other politician in this country.
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www.1club.fm</P>
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russhaney
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> > Today(August 31st) President Bush is expected to address
> the
> > nation and the world on live TV with a live press
> conference
> > at 5PM(ET)/4PM(CT)/2PM(PT).
>
> A speech. That will help. Tell him to bring some army
> troops, buckets, CASH, and whatever is left of the National
> Guard and get it all down to Louisiana and surrounding
> areas.
>
> Why is it that politicians always see a chance to make
> pointless speeches and mug for cameras during tragedies.
>
I have been watching this hurricane coverage non stop for 2 days on FOX and CNN... and learned more about things happening in that brief president speech.. then i have heard the entire time from the News Networks... so yea, it did help.. especially if I would have had family and friends in any of the Gulf States.<P ID="signature">______________
www.1club.fm</P>
> the
> > nation and the world on live TV with a live press
> conference
> > at 5PM(ET)/4PM(CT)/2PM(PT).
>
> A speech. That will help. Tell him to bring some army
> troops, buckets, CASH, and whatever is left of the National
> Guard and get it all down to Louisiana and surrounding
> areas.
>
> Why is it that politicians always see a chance to make
> pointless speeches and mug for cameras during tragedies.
>
I have been watching this hurricane coverage non stop for 2 days on FOX and CNN... and learned more about things happening in that brief president speech.. then i have heard the entire time from the News Networks... so yea, it did help.. especially if I would have had family and friends in any of the Gulf States.<P ID="signature">______________
www.1club.fm</P>
> > > Today(August 31st) President Bush is expected to address
>
> > the
> > > nation and the world on live TV with a live press
> > conference
> > > at 5PM(ET)/4PM(CT)/2PM(PT).
> >
> > A speech. That will help. Tell him to bring some army
> > troops, buckets, CASH, and whatever is left of the
> National
> > Guard and get it all down to Louisiana and surrounding
> > areas.
> >
> > Why is it that politicians always see a chance to make
> > pointless speeches and mug for cameras during tragedies.
> >
>
> WTF does politics have to do with a major natural disaster?
> You have a serious issue. It's the President of the United
> States for christ's sake. Do you think family members would
> rather hear whats going on with this by the President or
> twisted, bogus reports from CNN?
>
> You sound like some left wing kid that just wants to bitch
> and moan about the lamest things... I guess you forgot who's
> brother has been trhough more hurricanes than any other
> politician in this country.
>
Politics do effect things. After 9-11 and now, President Bush had a chance to be in the center and show American how he cares.
He chose to stay away. I mean even the King and Queen of England stayed in London during the blitz and this helped solidify the country and it helped restore the (somewhat tarnished) image of the monarchy after Edward abdicated.
I found it ironic that CNN and Fox both reported military copters are too heavy to land on hospital roofs. I FOR ONE, would have loved to see less coverge and have CNN and FOX donate the use of their helicopters to pulling the victims to saftey.
GW Bush has a earned reputation when the going gets tough he goes, to someplace comfortable and make a speech.<P ID="signature">______________
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>
> > the
> > > nation and the world on live TV with a live press
> > conference
> > > at 5PM(ET)/4PM(CT)/2PM(PT).
> >
> > A speech. That will help. Tell him to bring some army
> > troops, buckets, CASH, and whatever is left of the
> National
> > Guard and get it all down to Louisiana and surrounding
> > areas.
> >
> > Why is it that politicians always see a chance to make
> > pointless speeches and mug for cameras during tragedies.
> >
>
> WTF does politics have to do with a major natural disaster?
> You have a serious issue. It's the President of the United
> States for christ's sake. Do you think family members would
> rather hear whats going on with this by the President or
> twisted, bogus reports from CNN?
>
> You sound like some left wing kid that just wants to bitch
> and moan about the lamest things... I guess you forgot who's
> brother has been trhough more hurricanes than any other
> politician in this country.
>
Politics do effect things. After 9-11 and now, President Bush had a chance to be in the center and show American how he cares.
He chose to stay away. I mean even the King and Queen of England stayed in London during the blitz and this helped solidify the country and it helped restore the (somewhat tarnished) image of the monarchy after Edward abdicated.
I found it ironic that CNN and Fox both reported military copters are too heavy to land on hospital roofs. I FOR ONE, would have loved to see less coverge and have CNN and FOX donate the use of their helicopters to pulling the victims to saftey.
GW Bush has a earned reputation when the going gets tough he goes, to someplace comfortable and make a speech.<P ID="signature">______________
Once I figured out the meaning of life....Then I forgot to write it down.</P>
> I have been watching this hurricane coverage non stop for 2
> days on FOX and CNN... and learned more about things
> happening in that brief president speech..
Watching Fox is your first problem. The displaced people from NOLO themselves are pissed at Fox News Channel for misreporting, hyping, staging, and just getting the story wrong over and over again. CNN has basically covered the disaster for a national audience. If you want real information, you should watch the stations on the ground, whose coverage FAR FAR FAR exceeds the quality we are getting especially from Fox, but also CNN and MSNBC.
> days on FOX and CNN... and learned more about things
> happening in that brief president speech..
Watching Fox is your first problem. The displaced people from NOLO themselves are pissed at Fox News Channel for misreporting, hyping, staging, and just getting the story wrong over and over again. CNN has basically covered the disaster for a national audience. If you want real information, you should watch the stations on the ground, whose coverage FAR FAR FAR exceeds the quality we are getting especially from Fox, but also CNN and MSNBC.
> WTF does politics have to do with a major natural disaster?
> You have a serious issue. It's the President of the United
> States for christ's sake. Do you think family members would
> rather hear whats going on with this by the President or
> twisted, bogus reports from CNN?
Well, let's see. I have been in contact with a ton of displaced people down there as I maintain the streaming list for WWL-TV in New Orleans. The vast majority of people in NOLO never even heard or saw the speech. Most of the displaced in shelters never heard or saw the speech. They could care less about a speech. You can't eat or drink a speech. A speech doesn't give you a bus seat.
What people are saying is that there needs to be a LOT LESS talk and more action. People want to know why it took more than 48 hours for the federal government to put into place what they only started in earnest yesterday. People are also angry about the fact their levee enhancement project was defunded by the administration and the Republican Congress.
But the anger isn't necessarily partisan. People aren't happy with Louisana Governor Blanco either, who was caught on a broadcast backhaul yesterday whining about air conditioning, a fly in her office for two days, and openly asking why "those people" were stealing TV's when they were going to be drowned in a day or two (which got laughs in reply). She is also the one under attack for making a speech in which she told people to evacuate (but not how), and her only concrete declaration the day after the disaster was to call for a statewide day of prayer. That was unnecessary because people are already doing that as they are trapped in their homes, lost family members, or have no clue what to do next.
They aren't thrilled with the total lack of response to the looting either.
People don't want to hear speeches, promises, and "I feel your pain." They want food, water, transportation, and enough money to get by for the next x months they'll be out of the city. When the camera lights go on, the politicians come running, and they seem to get the face time while the people who actually have the important information to get out stand behind them.
> You sound like some left wing kid that just wants to bitch
> and moan about the lamest things... I guess you forgot who's
> brother has been trhough more hurricanes than any other
> politician in this country.
Oooh... that solves it. Because Jeb took a copter tour, wrung his hands, and passed out some water all those people who are still trying to recover from last year's Ivan are all just okay with their unrepaired homes living in their FEMA trailers still trying to wade through the bureaucracy to keep afloat.
Be it President Bush, Jeb Bush, or Governor Blanco, unless these people want to bring buckets, troops, and cash with them, they need to stop making speeches and doing "damage tours" and just stay out of the way.
BTW, the first people who made this a political issue was the Fox News Channel, who put out the slogans of the day yesterday: "the silence from other countries is deafening" and "why isn't Indonesia sending us aid - we helped them," and "where are our European friends."
Ironically, the very first country sending aid to Louisiana... wait for it, is Hugo Chavez's Venezuela who has sent a ship towards the southeastern US with disaster aid. The German Red Cross is also offering aid, as are the British and French, and the Dutch have already been in contact with NOLO authorities on levee matters, being that they are the experts in that department.
> You have a serious issue. It's the President of the United
> States for christ's sake. Do you think family members would
> rather hear whats going on with this by the President or
> twisted, bogus reports from CNN?
Well, let's see. I have been in contact with a ton of displaced people down there as I maintain the streaming list for WWL-TV in New Orleans. The vast majority of people in NOLO never even heard or saw the speech. Most of the displaced in shelters never heard or saw the speech. They could care less about a speech. You can't eat or drink a speech. A speech doesn't give you a bus seat.
What people are saying is that there needs to be a LOT LESS talk and more action. People want to know why it took more than 48 hours for the federal government to put into place what they only started in earnest yesterday. People are also angry about the fact their levee enhancement project was defunded by the administration and the Republican Congress.
But the anger isn't necessarily partisan. People aren't happy with Louisana Governor Blanco either, who was caught on a broadcast backhaul yesterday whining about air conditioning, a fly in her office for two days, and openly asking why "those people" were stealing TV's when they were going to be drowned in a day or two (which got laughs in reply). She is also the one under attack for making a speech in which she told people to evacuate (but not how), and her only concrete declaration the day after the disaster was to call for a statewide day of prayer. That was unnecessary because people are already doing that as they are trapped in their homes, lost family members, or have no clue what to do next.
They aren't thrilled with the total lack of response to the looting either.
People don't want to hear speeches, promises, and "I feel your pain." They want food, water, transportation, and enough money to get by for the next x months they'll be out of the city. When the camera lights go on, the politicians come running, and they seem to get the face time while the people who actually have the important information to get out stand behind them.
> You sound like some left wing kid that just wants to bitch
> and moan about the lamest things... I guess you forgot who's
> brother has been trhough more hurricanes than any other
> politician in this country.
Oooh... that solves it. Because Jeb took a copter tour, wrung his hands, and passed out some water all those people who are still trying to recover from last year's Ivan are all just okay with their unrepaired homes living in their FEMA trailers still trying to wade through the bureaucracy to keep afloat.
Be it President Bush, Jeb Bush, or Governor Blanco, unless these people want to bring buckets, troops, and cash with them, they need to stop making speeches and doing "damage tours" and just stay out of the way.
BTW, the first people who made this a political issue was the Fox News Channel, who put out the slogans of the day yesterday: "the silence from other countries is deafening" and "why isn't Indonesia sending us aid - we helped them," and "where are our European friends."
Ironically, the very first country sending aid to Louisiana... wait for it, is Hugo Chavez's Venezuela who has sent a ship towards the southeastern US with disaster aid. The German Red Cross is also offering aid, as are the British and French, and the Dutch have already been in contact with NOLO authorities on levee matters, being that they are the experts in that department.
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russhaney
Guest
> > I have been watching this hurricane coverage non stop for
> 2
> > days on FOX and CNN... and learned more about things
> > happening in that brief president speech..
>
> Watching Fox is your first problem. The displaced people
> from NOLO themselves are pissed at Fox News Channel for
> misreporting, hyping, staging, and just getting the story
> wrong over and over again. CNN has basically covered the
> disaster for a national audience. If you want real
> information, you should watch the stations on the ground,
> whose coverage FAR FAR FAR exceeds the quality we are
> getting especially from Fox, but also CNN and MSNBC.
>
thats not the whole point of this conversation... right there, you are saying the media is wrong.. but yet, you are making fun of the president for making a speech.. so make up your mind dude. - That was the whole point of my post. Instead of getting the information from a twisted news source.. its best to get the truth from one single source (in this case the president).... but you have to turn it into some a political BS comment.<P ID="signature">______________
www.1club.fm</P>
> 2
> > days on FOX and CNN... and learned more about things
> > happening in that brief president speech..
>
> Watching Fox is your first problem. The displaced people
> from NOLO themselves are pissed at Fox News Channel for
> misreporting, hyping, staging, and just getting the story
> wrong over and over again. CNN has basically covered the
> disaster for a national audience. If you want real
> information, you should watch the stations on the ground,
> whose coverage FAR FAR FAR exceeds the quality we are
> getting especially from Fox, but also CNN and MSNBC.
>
thats not the whole point of this conversation... right there, you are saying the media is wrong.. but yet, you are making fun of the president for making a speech.. so make up your mind dude. - That was the whole point of my post. Instead of getting the information from a twisted news source.. its best to get the truth from one single source (in this case the president).... but you have to turn it into some a political BS comment.<P ID="signature">______________
www.1club.fm</P>
> Instead of getting the information from a twisted news
> source.. its best to get the truth from one single source
> (in this case the president)....
Oh jeez, if it came down to trusting this president vs. the media, I'll take the sensational media any day, even Fox. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice with WMD, freedom on the march, the insurgency is under control, Mission Accomplished, and legislation that does the exact opposite of what it is titled, shame on me.
BTW, I'm not making "fun" of the president. If I wanted to do that, I could simply quote him:
"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
BTW, here's more evidence of the empty promises that come from those who want to make speeches but do nothing to get the job done (and if I was in charge of FEMA, I'd be looking for a new job right now):
(AP) But an angry Terry Ebbert, head of New Orleans' emergency operations, watching the slow procession from the Superdome, said the Federal Emergency Management Agency response was inadequate.
"This is a national disgrace. FEMA has been here three days, yet there is no command and control," Ebbert said. "We can send massive amounts of aid to tsunami victims but we can't bail out the city of New Orleans. We have got a mayor who has been pushing and asking but we're not getting supplies."
He said the evacuation was almost entirely a Louisiana operation. "This is not a FEMA operation. I haven't seen a single FEMA guy."
Guess which national cable news network will forget to report this.
> source.. its best to get the truth from one single source
> (in this case the president)....
Oh jeez, if it came down to trusting this president vs. the media, I'll take the sensational media any day, even Fox. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice with WMD, freedom on the march, the insurgency is under control, Mission Accomplished, and legislation that does the exact opposite of what it is titled, shame on me.
BTW, I'm not making "fun" of the president. If I wanted to do that, I could simply quote him:
"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
BTW, here's more evidence of the empty promises that come from those who want to make speeches but do nothing to get the job done (and if I was in charge of FEMA, I'd be looking for a new job right now):
(AP) But an angry Terry Ebbert, head of New Orleans' emergency operations, watching the slow procession from the Superdome, said the Federal Emergency Management Agency response was inadequate.
"This is a national disgrace. FEMA has been here three days, yet there is no command and control," Ebbert said. "We can send massive amounts of aid to tsunami victims but we can't bail out the city of New Orleans. We have got a mayor who has been pushing and asking but we're not getting supplies."
He said the evacuation was almost entirely a Louisiana operation. "This is not a FEMA operation. I haven't seen a single FEMA guy."
Guess which national cable news network will forget to report this.
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