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Antenna donations needed

$17K for a 330 watt directional station antenna? I'm amazed they got this approved. They can call Bext and get it done for a couple of hundred bucks.
 
RadeoEngineer said:
$17K for a 330 watt directional station antenna? I'm amazed they got this approved. They can call Bext and get it done for a couple of hundred bucks.
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Well, if they can believe a transmitter in Descanso has the potential to reach one million people, then perhaps some enterprising antenna salesman sold them another bill of goods.
 
I dont remember these people actually getting approval for a CP ?? am I wrong? Or is this again for their pirate station?? I swear that if these people sign on a frequency that I will pirate on the same freq LOL, and I have better transmitters!
 
Wow! That's a lot of money for an antenna. Someone should really invest in
an old ARRL antenna manual and learn how to roll their own. It's really not
too hard at that power level. It's not alchemy, fer pete's sake.
 
radio-darn said:
Well, if they can believe a transmitter in Descanso has the potential to reach one million people, then perhaps some enterprising antenna salesman sold them another bill of goods.
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When people think of visiting San Diego county, they vision Descanso and Jamal. Seriously, wouldn't they be better off buying KSICK-FM 96.1 FM?
 
I believe that KSIQ is working kinda like that protest pirate group. They will take whatever they can get??? I have heard rumors of anything from 2 million to 15 million. But the Harold Camping station in DC went for 8.5 million, so they might want to re-price it....like under a million. A station's value is usually 3 years worth of cash flow (these days). When Jacor/Clear Channel was buying everything it was about 10 years cash flow.
 
600kogo said:
I believe that KSIQ is working kinda like that protest pirate group. They will take whatever they can get??? I have heard rumors of anything from 2 million to 15 million. But the Harold Camping station in DC went for 8.5 million, so they might want to re-price it....like under a million. A station's value is usually 3 years worth of cash flow (these days). When Jacor/Clear Channel was buying everything it was about 10 years cash flow.
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The pre-consolidation formula was 2.5 times current cash flow (usually applied if there was not much cash flow), or about 12 times BCF. After consolidation, the BCF multiples increased to about 16 to 18 times.

Today, if it does not have cash flow, it's almost pure stick value. That's why the Camping station, which is really half of a DC station and half of a Baltimore station, went very cheap. As to BCF multiples, we are back to 8 to 10 for FMs (assuming anything worth having is available) and even less for AMs (assuming anyone wants one).

In 1979, the stick value of a New York City FM was around $8 million based on a signed option for the Friendly Frost station. Today, a partial coverage FM outside DC is worth more than that, even during a recession.
 
DavidEduardo said:
In 1979, the stick value of a New York City FM was around $8 million based on a signed option for the Friendly Frost station. Today, a partial coverage FM outside DC is worth more than that, even during a recession.
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What is "the Friendly Frost station"?

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
Has anyone looked at the antenna pattern of what they are proposing to use on this 89.1?? It's pretty ugly no wonder they are asking for donations they are going to need something that makes KSIQ look like an omni to make this thing work.

I'm very glad that the FCC is giving licenses to pirates, makes me feel good working to maintain logs and legalities at LICENSED stations.
 
badjef said:
DavidEduardo said:
In 1979, the stick value of a New York City FM was around $8 million based on a signed option for the Friendly Frost station. Today, a partial coverage FM outside DC is worth more than that, even during a recession.
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What is "the Friendly Frost station"?

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
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WTFM Lake Success.
 
sdwulfdawg said:
I guess they are planning two stations...one in Descanso and another in that other San Diego County real liberal hotbed, Ramona....
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The Ramona station was shot down, according to the FCC. See http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/pubacc/prod/app_det.pl?Application_id=1420564.

The group were asked to resubmit, see http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/getimportletter_exh.cgi?import_letter_id=25242.

Los Coyotes Band of Cahuilla and Cupeno Indians have also expressed an interest in a radio station and filed paperwork last August. (Which I think they deserve and should get; but that's another thread.)
 
See this is the result of years and years of drug abuse, and just being a hippie. When hippies get old they either are protestors that do this non sense, they open pot shops, or coffee shops.

At least beatniks had good jazz music in their coffee shops! And just wanted to be groovy !
 
600kogo said:
See this is the result of years and years of drug abuse, and just being a hippie. When hippies get old they either are protestors that do this non sense, they open pot shops, or coffee shops.

At least beatniks had good jazz music in their coffee shops! And just wanted to be groovy !
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Yeah, those old hippies protests are the same ones that got the Selective Service abolished and saw to it that you don't have to worry about being drafted and forcibly fighting in a war of questionable means.
 
Actually, their antenna will be on top of Mt. Laguna (see link below) -- and that elevation might give them amazing coverage beyond the "official" contours.

Just look at what happened when 88.9 FM Temecula moved to Palomar Mountain, which is about the same elevation as Laguna. On coverage maps, their Grade A does not reach the heart of San Diego -- yet I hear them loud and clear everywhere, even here in East County (La Mesa).

So I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss this proposed signal's reach...

http://maps.google.com/?q=http://tr...J&freq=89.1&contour=60&city=DESCANSO&state=CA
 
DavidEduardo said:
badjef said:
DavidEduardo said:
In 1979, the stick value of a New York City FM was around $8 million based on a signed option for the Friendly Frost station. Today, a partial coverage FM outside DC is worth more than that, even during a recession.
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What is "the Friendly Frost station"?

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
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WTFM Lake Success.
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"That's 'T'-FM", their on-air slogan so as not to confuse them with their former 105.1 neighbor, Bonneville's WRFM.

Why do you call them "the Friendly Frost station"?

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
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