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haverhill01835 said:
VelvetR - the very few times I went out to the TX site at 1400 you either walked this long, rickety bridge to get to the actual shack or you brought hip waders with you. It was very marsh-like to say the least. What was odd about 1400 from my limited technical knowledge - we covered our market really well (Fall River, Somerset, Swansea, Westport, etc.) but we could reach Providence really well as well, at night too. I'm guessing due to the stick being in the swamp. (Hope I didn't sound negative by saying it that way...from what Steve Sorel taught me, it was a huge bonus to have the stick in the swamp.)

And Dighton Rockhead - I know I was just a young announcer at the time, taking damn near any shift they'd give me, but thanks. I'm pretty proud of what we did at WHTB in those days and I'm sure so are alot of other people.

Please don't misunderstand....the ground conductivity of that swamp is what makes the signal as strong as it is in the prime coverage area....especially because that swamp is connected to the Watuppa Ponds and The Quequechan River which runs into The Taunton River. Effectively, those waterways are part of the ground system! Perhaps the rickety bridge and/or need for waders keeps the site safe from vandals....we can hope. The old Durfee Theater tower (I'm sure you're not old enough to even remember it but I worked with it back then) offered only limited coverage. The ground system was limited to the size of the roof, not all that big, and the bonding to the steel frame of the building was of limited effectiveness. Of course, the 250-Watt output was bad enough on its' own!

The WSAR site in Somerset is OK but the ground is nowhere near as conductive as the WHTB site despite its' proximity to Lee's River. They're far better off with the two-tower array than they were with the old 4-tower setup, though.

As to programming.......true local programming is what kept (then) WALE far ahead of WSAR even though the 1400 power was 250-Watts while WSAR ran 5,000 Watts. I dunno what caused the new owners to change it. Maybe it wasn't making money anymore? Maybe they thought killing a golden goose would make a turkey fly better?
 
haverhill01835 said:
...What was odd about 1400 from my limited technical knowledge - we covered our market really well (Fall River, Somerset, Swansea, Westport, etc.) but we could reach Providence really well as well, at night too. I'm guessing due to the stick being in the swamp...from what Steve Sorel taught me, it was a huge bonus to have the stick in the swamp.


It is ALL about poking that stick in the swamp, my friend!

That rooftop stick got out much better than I thought it would. I lived out in Warwick near the old Warwick Musical Theater. Couldn't see Russia from my back yard but had no problem seeing West Warwick. Summer 1963 WPRO relaunched as a Top 40, while The Mighty 1290 (WICE) was picking up steam under new management (Susquehanna). "Fun Radio" WHIM 1110 (b. 2/62, d. 6/63) -- by far the best AM rocker RI ever had -- took their 1Kw NDD and dissolved as the result. They sure played Brenda Lee's "My Whole World is Falling Down" quite often those last days, though... WALE 1400 became my local favorite. It had some clutter at night but was very listenable (for a kid who loves rock, that is...). Murray and Mad Daddy on 1010 WINS were my night favorites. 11/63, while in history class, my teacher was briefly called out and came back ashen faced -- JFK had been shot. The "girl with the transistor" (every school bus had one) was going crazy trying to find anything but dirges on the bus ride home. I asked her to please tune 1400 because "those guys are serious about rock". She held up the radio and pointed to the dial, which was already on "14". WALE was only 250 watts and wasn't nearly as robust as "Channel 63", but when teenage Miss Transistor tunes you regularly on a bus, you are doing all right.

WALE returned from the mourning period, several days of "funeral music" on ALL stations, with the professional full service format they were so successful with in the following decades.

Steve Sorel (sp?) had been CE of 1400 some years before I took the job. Last I saw him he was chief engineer of the Mighty 1290. Very intelligent man.


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iyiyi said:
Steve Sorel (sp?) had been CE of 1400 some years before I took the job. Last I saw him he was chief engineer of the Mighty 1290. Very intelligent man.
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Did you get to work with the Wincharger-on-the roof? Or was it gone by then? I'm wondering who (if anyone) ever tamed the 11th harmonic that kept Newt-the-ham busy complaining for about 20 years!
 
iyiyi said:
Steve Sorel (sp?) had been CE of 1400 some years before I took the job. Last I saw him he was chief engineer of the Mighty 1290. Very intelligent man.

Yes, he was. He was the first person who got me interested in the tech side of radio when we were housed at "130 Rock" in his back room office off the kitchen.
 
VelvetR said:
As to programming.......true local programming is what kept (then) WALE far ahead of WSAR even though the 1400 power was 250-Watts while WSAR ran 5,000 Watts. I dunno what caused the new owners to change it. Maybe it wasn't making money anymore? Maybe they thought killing a golden goose would make a turkey fly better?

I'm not speaking for the Karams (the current owners of WHTB and WSAR) but the move to make 1400 a Portuguese station is a smart business decision, considering the population of the Fall River area which is still heavy Portuguese. While many of us are very passionate about radio, they are passionate about business. Hence - the move. However, I think the Karam's have also been passionate about media as well. They (especially Robert Karam) always made sure we had the tools to do our jobs, and made sure we put out the best product possible. Besides the fact that they had some great managers working for them in the way of Hec Gauthier and George Colajezzi made 1400 a great operation to work for.

As an aside - I was always of the mindset that if you took our (WHTB) local programming (circa 1989) and put it on 1480, we would have had a hell of a station. Great talent and 5kw would have been a a winning combination. It would appear that WSAR is still a local player. Admittedly I don't get to listen to much of the local stuff on WSAR due to streaming constraints at my employer.

Marc Lemay
 
haverhill01835 said:
.......the move to make 1400 a Portuguese station is a smart business decision, considering the population of the Fall River area which is still heavy Portuguese.

As an aside - I was always of the mindset that if you took our (WHTB) local programming (circa 1989) and put it on 1480, we would have had a hell of a station. Great talent and 5kw would have been a a winning combination. It would appear that WSAR is still a local player.

I'd call it more of a halfway good business decision. I wonder what might have been the result if the WALE call and programming were shifted to 1480 and 1400 became Portuguese language under the WHTB, or even WSAR, call.

Surely WSAR picked up some marbles when the localism of WALE went away - it seems like it picked up some, but not nearly all that had been there.

Of course every owner wants to think of their signal as a player in the bigger market close by but their dreams rarely come true.

The real underlying tragedy is that both Narragansett Broadcasting (original owners of WALE) and FR Herald News (owners of WSAR at the time) had FM allocations and were actually on the air but gave them up when the shift was on from low-band to high-band. None of them could even guess what was going to happen with FM becoming dominant one day and the cost of new transmitters and antennas was just too much to even think about. Fall River, therefore, has NO FM allocation and not a prayer of ever having one.
 
I'd call it more of a halfway good business decision.  I wonder what might have been the result if the WALE call and programming were shifted to 1480 and 1400 became Portuguese language under the WHTB, or even WSAR, call.

Well, I think we're talking different parts of history here.  I can almost say for certain that when the Karam's bought 1400 from Frank Battaglia, the option of keeping the WALE calls in Fall River wasn't an option for the Karam's.  Frank seemed to be hell-bent on taking them to Providence with the purchase of 990.  By the time the Karam's purchased WSAR a few years later, WHTB 1400 was entrenched in Fall River, and WALE was meandering in Providence.

Speaking of history - there's some history with WSAR being one of the oldest stations in Massachusetts and for that matter, the US.  1480 actually pre-dates 1400 by some 20 years, with 1480 going on the air in 1923, while 1400 went on the air in 1948.

As for the FM licenses that both stations had (WALE on 100.9, WSAR on 103.7), that's the proverbial "water under the (Braga) bridge" at this point.  (A little local humor for good measure...)

Marc
 
haverhill01835 said:
Well, I think we're talking different parts of history here. I can almost say for certain that when the Karam's bought 1400 from Frank Battaglia, the option of keeping the WALE calls in Fall River wasn't an option for the Karam's. Frank seemed to be hell-bent on taking them to Providence with the purchase of 990. By the time the Karam's purchased WSAR a few years later, WHTB 1400 was entrenched in Fall River, and WALE was meandering in Providence.

Speaking of history - there's some history with WSAR being one of the oldest stations in Massachusetts and for that matter, the US. 1480 actually pre-dates 1400 by some 20 years, with 1480 going on the air in 1923, while 1400 went on the air in 1948.

As for the FM licenses that both stations had (WALE on 100.9, WSAR on 103.7), that's the proverbial "water under the (Braga) bridge" at this point. (A little local humor for good measure...)

Yeah, some history there that got by me. I left the FR area in 1978 and have been only loosely in touch since then. I wasn't really aware of Battaglia's involvement. So my point is moot.

I don't have the full history at my fingertips but I believe WSAR had a different frequency back in the beginning and got shifted in the big shakeup, was that in the late 20s or 30s??? In any case, call letters were assigned sequentially back then; nobody got a choice. There were two stations in FR early on. WSAR (not much younger than WJAR if you consider the letter sequence) and the somewhat later WTAB that didn't last long at all. My grandfather used to say that WSAR came first and stood for "We Sure Are Rotten" and then came the very disappointing WTAB which he claimed stood for "We Too Are Bad".

If memory serves, WSAR originally had a longwire antenna on the roof of The Herald-News building until the shakeup when they got pushed to 1480 with a complex pattern (5 kW "regional") whereupon they contracted with General Electric to build their site on The Taunton River side of Somerset. 5kW, 1kW backup, phasor, console (a really big one), even the structure. There were two announce booths with microphones only; all the turntable work (not even tape then) was done by an engineer sitting in the central room with the transmitters at his back and the booths in front of him. Elaborate hand-signals as to when to spin, open/close mic, etc. It was still that way when Truman Taylor and Bassett were there in the late 1950s - right at the time WSAR went from a "full time" ABC affiliate to playing music....throwing out Don McNeill's Breakfast Club and a whole ration of soap operas. Only vestiage was "Musical Parade and Shopping News" sponsored by The R.A. McWhirr department store. They paid for the full 15-minutes each morning and the revenue was important. Theme (I wish I could remember the name) was right out of the 1920s and played off several 78 rpm discs, all of which were getting pretty tatty toward the end.

Towers were classic 4-sided Blaw-Knox (NOT the original pointy bottom/pointy top with a bulge in the middle) design but top loaded with the "hot" portion of the guys joined with horizontal cables. The newsroom was still in Fall River in the newspaper building until the paper sold the station. Somewhere around then there was a move to the present Somerset site - but still with four towers (tube stock that didn't do well in the salt air). Later a protected station in Quebec went silent and they were able to put up two decent towers and get rid of the 4-tower array which was in pretty sad shape by then anyway. Oh, the reason for the move - New England Power bought the old site to make way for a nuclear power plant that never happened. I wonder if the old tower bases are still out there somewhere in the brush....Google Earth shows the site as thoroughly grown over with no visible traces of what had once been there.

Jeez, I'm getting old!!!!
 
VelvetR said:
Only vestiage was "Musical Parade and Shopping News" sponsored by The R.A. McWhirr department store. They paid for the full 15-minutes each morning and the revenue was important. Theme (I wish I could remember the name) was right out of the 1920s and played off several 78 rpm discs, all of which were getting pretty tatty toward the end.

When WSAR was celebrating it's 60th anniversary on the air, they brought in and /or spoke with many former personalities who had been on-air at the station at various points in the station's history, as well as taking on-air calls from listeners with thier own stories and memories.

During the proceedings, Moe Lauzier took great delight in playing an old scratchy 78 rpm disc which he said was the theme of a program that used to be on the station. The name of the program had long escaped me, but I remembered the name of the tune......"Neapolitan Nights".

This is not the exact version I heard Moe play, but it's pretty darn close!
http://www.archive.org/details/CasinoOrchestra-NeapolitanNights1928
 
Dighton Rockhead said:
When WSAR was celebrating it's 60th anniversary on the air, they brought in and /or spoke with many former personalities who had been on-air at the station at various points in the station's history, as well as taking on-air calls from listeners with thier own stories and memories.

During the proceedings, Moe Lauzier took great delight in playing an old scratchy 78 rpm disc which he said was the theme of a program that used to be on the station. The name of the program had long escaped me, but I remembered the name of the tune......"Neapolitan Nights".

This is not the exact version I heard Moe play, but it's pretty darn close!
http://www.archive.org/details/CasinoOrchestra-NeapolitanNights1928

You're right. It IS the right piece of music but not the exact version. The actual version used was 100% instrumental and had a rather long vamp in the middle that was great for talking over. The program lasted, on WSAR, until very near the end of The R.A. McWhirr company. A piteous end it was! The store, in downtown Fall River, was owned by one family. Toward the end they opened a couple of "branches" - one in the Mall on or near Tucker Street (FR) and, briefly, one in Swansea Mall if memory serves. But there were allegations of embezzlement and the younger members of the family (one a relative, so I know of what I speak) were not interested so shut the whole thing down.

I never worked with Moe, however his wife and mine were teachers together for a year or two in a suburb of FR.

Fall River! Indeed a good place to be FROM!
 
Couple of excellent radio sites: AM-DX.Com and V-Soft.com. AM-DX is filled with good, practical, common-sense radio ideas. There is a pre NARBA list of all New England stations just prior to 3/29/41. There is also plans for the neatest little antenna phaser I ever saw. V-soft/zipsignal is one of the handiest little radio puppies I've played with on the web. Pop in the zip code (or call letters) and out comes a list of all FM and AMs in order of field strength. 50dbu for FM and 0.(very low)Mv/M for AM.

The perspective of this whole thread is a time when only about 12 stations were available in the market. There were NO FM players, walkman, cassette, 8 track or ANY source of outdoor, personal entertainment other than an AM transistor radio.

I only worked the rooftop 1400 and never went to Rock site. Grounding observations from that roof, factored with my experiences at many other stations, gives me a radical different, more practical idea of how antenna grounds may actually perform. There were upward of 30 radials disconnected at 2 basic areas of the ground strap at the wall. Never figured out how they became loose. Don't believe they had any adverse effect on the signal. I "heard" the difference from the roof to Rock. The signal degraded the amount one would expect a class C moved that distance should have. I'm certain the signal in the wet areas described above improved greatly after the move.

Very astute observation on the SAR, JAR calls. "Legend" has WBZ 1st and WSAR as the 6th licensed stations in America. According to "Old Man" Haddad, the owners of the stations were excellent friends and decided "You take one call and I'll take the other". Calls were assigned from a book in alphabetical order in those days. I believe each also chose the frequency they wanted to run with the same way.

Mr. Battaglia was the Southern New England version of Andre Bulova. He loaded the WALE calls and some of the personalities into a box and moved the entire show to 990. Funny thing was; the box had no bottom and the best of 1400 signed on the next morning with no real changes. 1400 lost only Mr. Battaglia! Meanwhile...Mr. Battaglia dazzled the Providence market with stunning 0.0 ratings! I remember SAS (Sherman Allan Strickhouser) reaming Mr. Battaglia on air with; "You are operating a radio station from a converted men's room with 0.0 ratings. What exactly IS 990 doing, and why?".

I babysat the 4 tower 5Kw DA2 rhombic enough. The TX was a Gates (remember the glowing neon bulb somebody taped to the PA cabinet?). I believe the phasor etal was also Gates. The two 5/8 wave pups there now are a very smart move because it gives them the best possible ground wave. Any adverse sky wave from the high spike occurs over Cape Cod Bay.
Not sure if they are skirt fed, otherwise they probably have a real low input resistance.


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iyiyi said:
Couple of excellent radio sites: AM-DX.Com and V-Soft.com. AM-DX is filled with good, practical, common-sense radio ideas. There is a pre NARBA list of all New England stations just prior to 3/29/41.

OK, now you've encouraged me to look up a whole lot of history! You are, of course, correct about conditions at the time....long before Walkman, etc. The big hope was that FM would become the "big gun" but FM radios were big-time expensive and too many people believed FM stood for "Fine Music"....which is what a lot of FM stations offered, especially The Providence Journal/Bulletin's WPJB-FM.

I have to correct myself concerning the frequencies of the two FMs that were assigned to Fall River. The original station in The Durfee Theater Building (Sisson Brothers, Narragansett Broadcasting) was WCFR (City of Fall River) with somewhere between 100 and 250 Watts (I saw the old Raytheon transmitter in storage in the basement of the theater) on 100.9 MHz - not clear whether they had been licensed prior to the shift to high-band but I now believe they were not. The antenna, as previously noted, was atop the Wincharger (brand) tower on the theater roof. The brothers Sisson had high hopes of one day getting an AM license for 1400 so had the tower built with a base insulator and around 1/4 wave for 1400. They were fought tooth-and-nail by the owners of The Fall River Herald-News (K&M Publishing) but finally prevailed. As to the radials....when first I took base current readings they were bonded to copper flashing that ran along the raised edge of the roof but when I took my last readings the theater had been re-roofed with new flashing and the radials were cut off. Around that time an engineer....I know who but won't name him here....laid down a lot of steel chicken wire and soldered it (lead/tin only) to some of the radials! A little aside, the whole WCFR/WALE equipment package was purchased from Raytheon. There were face-to-face studios in the theater building, one originally used for each station. When the FM was shut down the larger of the two became a news-studio/production room of sorts...from which originated such jewels as "The Kiddie Review" (live children singing and tap dancing to a horribly out-of-tune upright piano that was slowly returning to the soil in that damp space)....Gertrudge St. Denis' "Franco American Hour" and Manny Borges "Azorean Hour". Though it was over 50-years ago I still occasionally find myself humming the themes from those latter two.

Were the stations ever on the air?? YES! I know for sure about WCFR, having heard about it first-hand from George L. Sisson, Jr. who, with brother Roger, put it on the air in hopes of getting an AM license. But, in addition, when moving out of a long-time family home in Ocean Grove I found a kitchen drawer lined with a newspaper from 1948 that contained program listings for WSAR, WSAR-FM, and WCFR but not for WALE which hit the air later that year.

iyiyi said:
Very astute observation on the SAR, JAR calls. "Legend" has WBZ 1st and WSAR as the 6th licensed stations in America. According to "Old Man" Haddad, the owners of the stations were excellent friends and decided "You take one call and I'll take the other". Calls were assigned from a book in alphabetical order in those days. I believe each also chose the frequency they wanted to run with the same way.

Ah yes, I believe the same Haddad who ran the parts store where Chuck Boitano (sp?) held forth for so many years. At the beginning WSAR was owned by Doughty & Welch Electric Company.

WTAB was owned by The Fall River Herald (NOT FR Herald/News - that came later) and started in The Mohican Hotel, likely with a rooftop longwire at 100 Watts on 1210 but shifted to 1130 sometime in 1924. The hotel burned in Fall River's "Great Fire" in 1928. Somewhere after that both The Fall River Herald and Fall River Daily News were bought by K&M Publishing which combined the papers. K&M bought WSAR from Doughty & Welch Electric in 1945 and it may have been at that time that they settled into the original 4-tower array off Walker Street (I think that was the street name) in Somerset. It's not clear whether WTAB was part of K&M's purchase of The Herald; it may have been run independently for a time or it may just have been shut down at the time of the WSAR purchase.

Thanks for the memory of Big Sherm! He, Jim Mendes, myself and a couple of others whose names I'll leave out as they are still alive, used to meet occasionally at Schwarzwald Haus (German restaurant) in Seekonk where the hosts would seat expectant mothers well away from us lest the unborn be marked by the sight of our feasting!

iyiyi said:
I babysat the 4 tower 5Kw DA2 rhombic enough. The TX was a Gates (remember the glowing neon bulb somebody taped to the PA cabinet?). I believe the phasor etal was also Gates. The two 5/8 wave pups there now are a very smart move because it gives them the best possible ground wave. Any adverse sky wave from the high spike occurs over Cape Cod Bay.
Not sure if they are skirt fed, otherwise they probably have a real low input resistance.

The original Home Street package was bought from Gates. I can't clearly remember whether there were two transmitters, as at the old site (5kW main/1kW backup) but tend to believe there was just one. I do recall that their intended 24 hour operation had to be interrupted about once a month to neutralize the finals but that may have been overcome later. I have no idea what's in there (transmitter) now though I did visit Keri a couple of years back when in town for my sister's funeral. From that same visit I vaguely recall looking from the parking lot at the base of the closest tower. There was definitely no skirt - I'm all too familiar with unipoles, the one I occasionally babysit has been the bane of my existence - and I recall a base insulator which leads me to believe it's a true Hertzian setup.

Some chance I'll be back that way in May; if you're still in the area and would like to meet and swap war stories send me a PM when convenient.
 
Hey VelvetR -

If/when you're in the area, I'd make a road trip back down to FRM to hear some of your war stories first hand if you're willing to share. Not sure if I have any real good ones of my own to give back, but I sure like listening.

Marc
 
haverhill01835 said:
Hey VelvetR -

If/when you're in the area, I'd make a road trip back down to FRM to hear some of your war stories first hand if you're willing to share. Not sure if I have any real good ones of my own to give back, but I sure like listening.

Marc

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haverhill01835 said:
Hey VelvetR -

If/when you're in the area, I'd make a road trip back down to FRM to hear some of your war stories first hand if you're willing to share. Not sure if I have any real good ones of my own to give back, but I sure like listening.

Marc


Lord willing we actually pull this trip off, I do believe we'll eagerly ask YOU the questions. You stayed and prospered while WALE swam west and floundered! Gotta be a story there someplace...

1400 appears to be located in the ideal spot to best serve it's population. 1480 obviously invested the money wisely and is running a solid technical operation. Both sound good.

I have driven both current and rooftop 1400s. Signals and coverages -- allowing for distance of move and assuming all other terrain is equal -- are identical to me. I would never have thought the rooftop was other than a tower in the swamp by it's performance!

Is that my own bias or did that Wincharger have a pretty deep voice for such a little guy?

I started at a 1240/106.3 Collins AM/FM Xmtr pair. Also saw Raytheon and RCA and Gates pairs. Never saw the WALE-FM xmtr. The Home Street 4 tower 1480 had a 1Kw Gates aux over by the wall.

550 (not sure if right thread) had a couple RCAs sporting those bulletproof 833As, the most Marathon carts I've ever seen under one roof and a production studio console that made a Gates Yard a Lotto win! Hows about them Lumitens? Demand Radio was a good format that had a long run. Night music was MILF radio heaven. That's where they all are; home alone listening to pretty music on the radio. Just ask "Is that WXTR?" and then listen to her. Around 11PM a certain music intensive individual would slip in and lay down very cool tunes. He bequeathed his music library to Brown University. You are able to hear selections on Jazz After Hours, 2-5:30AM W,Th,F on WBRU 95.5. He's long gone but still supplying 10+ hours of jazz weekly! While we are on the subject, the above JAH is the direct descendent of a syndicated late Saturday night jazz show began in 1975 on WBRU, WBUS-FM Miami, and 1450 West Warwick. A certain purveyor of vinyl on N. Main St and "The Host Who Loves You Most" finally joins Fred. They are all together on the same station for the very first time (95.5 WBRU) and jazz lives!


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I'd like to clarify my last statement so it makes a bit more sense. Sorry, I screw up like this a lot.

Jim Mendes is the biggest radio influence in many of our lives. Those of us that love him are legion. The proper way to spell his name is "Jazz".

Carl Henry ran "Carl's Diggins", a record shop originally on Prairie Avenue and then N.Main St. He also spun R&B on WRIB 1220 and was the 1st to play rock and roll in RI.

Fred Grady had a long run on 550 with jazz from 11PM - 1AM. He bracketed that with jazz gigs on 1290 WICE.

It was not a jazz performance if these three men were not seated together at the table with the best accoustics! Anyone remember the jazz scene at Pio's Lodge?

Jim and Carl embarked on various extracurricular jazz radio program adventures together. Fred was always one station removed from them. JAH took a rather convoluted route to where it is today, but Jim and Carl placed it's foundation. Add Fred's music library and the spirit of jazz lives strongly as ever. Time shift JAH and listen at a convenient jazz mood and setting.

You will appreciate their contribution to music and Rhode Island radio.


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iyiyi said:
Jim Mendes is the biggest radio influence in many of our lives.

Carl Henry ran "Carl's Diggins", a record shop originally on Prairie Avenue and then N.Main St. He also spun R&B on WRIB 1220 and was the 1st to play rock and roll in RI.

Fred Grady had a long run on 550 with jazz from 11PM - 1AM. He bracketed that with jazz gigs on 1290 WICE.

.......Fred's music library and the spirit of jazz lives strongly as ever. Time shift JAH and listen at a convenient jazz mood and setting.

Of the three I worked with Fred the most at WXTR. At one point he had been doing his evening show from the newsroom as it had a couple of RCA turntables but the air studio, having gone all cartridge, had none. I later rebuilt the air studio with a couple of Gates turntables just for Fred and the Langevin board that was a one-off custom. At that point Fred started doing the show from the rebuilt room and, to finish the newsroom rebuild, I had to move his record library about 3-feet. Had to use a hydrallic jack kind of sideways down at floor level to get the shelves to slide on the tile floor and doggone near displaced a wall as it was initially more inclined to move than were the shelves. Anyone have any idea what about 7,500 vinly lps might weigh as a unit?

There was one period of about 2 weeks when Fred came down sick and I ran his show for him, playing as much music as possible and saying the bare minimum so as not to display my ignorance of jazz!

Always loved it when young women saw Fred for the first time after listening to his incredible voice, assuming his age to be about 1/3 of reality, and having painted a mental image.........
 
iyiyi said:
Lord willing we actually pull this trip off, I do believe we'll eagerly ask YOU the questions. You stayed and prospered while WALE swam west and floundered! Gotta be a story there someplace...

Not sure to which of us you refer, this having become sort of three-cornered. I hung out at WALE as a teen and got hired as a weekender while a senior in high school. In fact, I got called in to cover for someone who went home sick the very night of my high school graduation in 1959! I missed all the parties but think I enjoyed it more than anyone else.

iyiyi said:
1400 appears to be located in the ideal spot to best serve it's population. 1480 obviously invested the money wisely and is running a solid technical operation. Both sound good.

Though I live thousands of miles away, I can agree based on having visited a couple of years ago. The 1400 signal seemed to be marginally stronger out toward Seekonk than it used to but not only is it off the rooftop and in the high-conductivity swamp, it's 1,000 Watts vs. 250 Watts back then. This says the rooftop was working better than it logically should have or the new site is not realizing its' theoretical potential. I'm thinking the rooftop was exceeding what anyone had a right to expect. The Wincharger was a very nice height for 1400 but the ground under where the theater building was is solid granite and grounding was through the steel frame of the theater so, who knows, maybe The Crone of The Quequechan (old witch story from early days of the city) was still working her magic.

The WALE-FM transmitter physically looked almost exactly like the Raytheon AM. All meters and push-buttons were in the same places on both but the labeling, of course, was different. It was sold off or scrapped sometime in the early 1960s. Prior to that it had been removed from the control room and was in the sort of vestibule (rather large space) to the men's room. Not connected to anything by then - just there. Thanks for the reminder that there was a Gates 1kW aux alongside the 5k at WSAR. I don't have any idea when the Gates were replaced...perhaps at the time of the shift from 4 to 2 towers as the phasor would have to have been replaced. Not sure if Norm Guimond was still engineering then; he had spent some time in the late 40s or early 50s at WALE and later was down at WPLM. I went to school with a son and daughter of his.

iyiyi said:
550 (not sure if right thread) had a couple RCAs sporting those bulletproof 833As, the most Marathon carts I've ever seen under one roof and a production studio console that made a Gates Yard a Lotto win! Hows about them Lumitens?

Not sure about your time frame in the above. The RCAs at WXTR...wish I could remember the model....had 4-400A modulators and finals. I'm not sure who built the phasor but some serious work went into it and they got the tower height right though I recall them being tubular (as opposed to rod stock) towers. I built the pre-sunrise power divider when The FCC allowed non-first phone operation between something like 5am and local sunrise. Ran one of the RCAs at 500 Watts and the divider dumped most of it into a dummy load with around 152 Watts ND on the closest tower. The target audience couldn't hear the difference between the 152 ND and the 400 directional pattern. During the flooding around 1966 we were getting about 30-watts into a longwire and I asked on-air for phone calls to judge whether we should stay on the air or just hang it up for the duration. Got calls from Warwick and Cranston saying it sounded perfectly normal....but nothing from the North so either the longwire was somewhat directional itself or there just was no audience in that direction.

Demand Radio lasted only about 3 years and was wearing out when Mel died and I came back. Don and Dennis wanted a slice of WLKW's "Beautiful Music" numbers (they pretty good) so I set up "The Wonderful World of Music" which played the Mantovani/Chacksfield genre BUT with a parody twist. It was musically influenced by WEZE in Boston (I had a lot of help from Bob Way who's still alive, in his 80s and still writing music) and by the tongue-in-check stuff Fred Swanson was pulling off at WRCH in Hartford. It was at that time we dumped music-off-cartridge and went to reel-to-reel, mostly syndicated from IGM but with some reels we made up ourselves. The twisted humor caught on and we displaced WLKW on weekends and certain dayparts, especially in winter then LKW signed on late and signed off early....once the dials got set to 550 they just stayed there.

During the Demand Radio days the production room was pitiful; little 4-pot board, a couple of Magnecorders and one ATC (brand) cart machine. When I did the rebuild Don had an addition built (it has since been torn down). We built a new production room there with 2 cart machines, a couple of Ampex 351s and a pair of Gates turntables. The board was an earlier model from Gates that had been in the old coal-yard studios but got completely reworked even down to plug-in solid state rectifiers. The old RCA main-studio board got shifted into the former production room which became a news room and the new Langevin board went into the air studio which had a pair of Gates turntables, five ATC cart machines, one Harris Criterion cart machine and a "McKenzie" six-metal cartridge unit which I can't explain in less than about 1,000 words but which was magic for "imaging" and sound effects. During the Demand Radio era Fred Grady didn't get loose until about 10 or 11 pm but one of my changes was to start him off earlier, I think about 7pm which pleased him and a bunch of listeners. My thinking was that the audience changed over radically after the evening rush hour so there was everything to gain and nothing to lose by swapping formats at that hour.

BTW, that little 4-pot board and the RCA turntables plus one cart machine ended up in a small travel trailer into which we cut a big picture window and did a small number of "Wonderful World of Music" remotes! The trailer was later destroyed in a fire in the garage where it was kept behind People's Coal Company in Valley Falls.

Will be interesting to see if we can pull together anything for a WALE-1400 mini-reunion in May....
 
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