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Gee thanks for taking the time to help out. Seems weird to me, but I could SWEAR I hear live people on the air on the weekends AND at night here on some stations. Guess things on this board haven't changed much since I got out of the biz. You'd think "bitter" would get old. I see I am mistaken. Thanks for the career advice, but I think I'll keep looking just the same.
Scrappy-- I don't mean to speak for Oaktree...but I think his (her?...don't know) point is that if you've been paying attention at all the past 2 years, you'd see that the industry has shed hundreds and hundreds of employees, from air talent to engineers to salespeople to managers to marketers. There are dozens of people in every market asking the same question you're asking, and finding few...if any...jobs out there. Your original post is probably well-intentioned, but comes off a little uninformed and a little insulting to the people who have recently lost jobs to voicetracking, syndication, simulcasting, etc.
So....you're saying that there are no live shifts at night OR on the weekend in the Phoenix radio market. I mean that IS what the first response to my post was saying. I think my main mistake was putting the request on this site. As a 20+ year radio veteran, I DO understand that there wont be enough jobs for EVERYONE again unless the larger monopolies have to let a good number of frequencies go.....I guess what I SHOULD have said is that I'm a Corporate PDs wet dream! As I already have a FT job, I already have benefits, and insurance - I would be a "less-expensive" employee than most. Therefore, I wouldn't "cost" as much as others. I don't mean to kick anyone when they're down - in 20 + yrs, I know what its like to be "on the beach". Good luck to everyone else in their search as well.
Scrappy, I don't have any leads for you, but I enjoyed listening to you on Y95 and 104-7 ZZP (and The New 103.9 too, right?) -- and I look forward to hearing your voice on the radio again someday!
OH, YOU... Mr. "Oaktree"...
What have you done, ALREADY? And in my stomping grounds? Please don't be such a stranger to the Phoenix board, my friend... or Phoenix.
Scrappy-- Good luck to you.
What have you done, ALREADY? And in my stomping grounds? Please don't be such a stranger to the Phoenix board, my friend... or Phoenix.
Scrappy-- Good luck to you.
Nope. No jobs in this business right now. If you are not in the business and employed, do not expect to GET in the business.
I'm a Corporate PDs wet dream!
Scrappy,
I'll bet you're a talented guy with, as you said, 20+ years in the business. The key, as one who's been there and back, is that it's NOT about experience ... it's about current skill-sets, knowledge, understanding and more than stating that you're "I'm a Corporate PDs wet dream!"
Ouch!
That on a public message board will get you going where you may just end up ... nowhere, fast.
I know lots of corporate PD's and know how they work. Most of them are more concerned with the difficulties of how to keep from having to fire good talent than 1) firing someone for a " wet dream," or 2) fighting management who has put thousands of dollars into a way to minimize costs in their weakest dayparts from a financial viewpoint ... and because many already have "fill-ins" they've been mandated to utilize.
Yeah, you may get a gig ... and good luck to you. I'm sure you, like so many others, deserve a chance in a great market like Phoenix.
You may also get a voicetracking job for $9 an hour ... with a minimum of 2 hours for a 4 hour "airshift." Ok. I lied. Maybe $10 an hour. In Dallas, it's $8. (In my market, it's $10 an hour ... if you can find a "non-jukebox / liner / sweeper / jingles only" radio station.
My post wasn't meant as a slam. It was mean as "actuality ... not reality." It's what's happening in the real world, at this minute.
Again, good luck to you
May all your "dreams" ... come true.
Scrappy,
I'll bet you're a talented guy with, as you said, 20+ years in the business. The key, as one who's been there and back, is that it's NOT about experience ... it's about current skill-sets, knowledge, understanding and more than stating that you're "I'm a Corporate PDs wet dream!"
Ouch!
That on a public message board will get you going where you may just end up ... nowhere, fast.
I know lots of corporate PD's and know how they work. Most of them are more concerned with the difficulties of how to keep from having to fire good talent than 1) firing someone for a " wet dream," or 2) fighting management who has put thousands of dollars into a way to minimize costs in their weakest dayparts from a financial viewpoint ... and because many already have "fill-ins" they've been mandated to utilize.
Yeah, you may get a gig ... and good luck to you. I'm sure you, like so many others, deserve a chance in a great market like Phoenix.
You may also get a voicetracking job for $9 an hour ... with a minimum of 2 hours for a 4 hour "airshift." Ok. I lied. Maybe $10 an hour. In Dallas, it's $8. (In my market, it's $10 an hour ... if you can find a "non-jukebox / liner / sweeper / jingles only" radio station.
My post wasn't meant as a slam. It was mean as "actuality ... not reality." It's what's happening in the real world, at this minute.
Again, good luck to you
May all your "dreams" ... come true.
Scrap, you know better than to look for a job on this board, or suggestions for that matter. Just get your aircheck together and send it out to station(s) of choice. That simple. Good luck.
WOW. Have things really NOT changed on these boards? Referring to being a Corporate "wet dream", meant that someone could get a seasoned, experienced veteran for a lot cheaper than someone that the company would have to pay benefits and insurance on - I thought that was an obvious statement - How you could take that in the direction you did actually makes me remember some of the reasons I got out. The work on the mic and with listeners, I miss....I'll land a gig someplace, thatnks to those that send support....but feeding into this kind of drama - good riddance! Good luck to you if you're looking - congrats if you're still in - drop me a message if there's anything I can do to help ya! Gordon McClendon said it best "What Are The People Talking About Today?" Be Good!
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scrappy said:
It's pretty tough to get a weekend gig these days with all the tracking and short budgets. In Houston we have a guy doing mornings for part-time money (4 hours a day x 5 days a week = no benefits for you!) and Clear Channel loves to load weekends up with Premium Choice generic tracks. If you haven't hit up CBS yet, you should. They seem to track less. I've also heard live jocks on Movin' on the weekends.
Good luck. You're a hell of a jock, Scrappy.
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