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Any rumblings on 107.9?

S

shilton

I have read on this forum that it is believed that Nick's agreement to keep 107.9 non-competitive will expire at the end of the year. If indeed that is the case, has anyone heard anything about what will happen to that stick?

Curious as to whether Galli keeps it and goes Jack (or some other format) or if he casts it aside. If he were to sell, who would toss their hat into the ring? It'd be a nice acquisition for Magnum to cure some of the reception problems for their AM or FM. First Media is pretty much a stand-alone in the State College Market anyway...or who knows perhaps even Allegheny Mountain would make a run for it (although I sure have not heard any news of planned buys)

I could see it being a nice localized country outlet even though Froggy would be hard to tumble over. Or as stated before, WBLF-FM would have a nice ring to it maybe???

Comments, predictions, etc???
 
call me silly, but it is my understanding 2510 has an LMA agreement with EMF, the K-Love people for a good while yet...I wouldn't expect any changes.

> I have read on this forum that it is believed that Nick's
> agreement to keep 107.9 non-competitive will expire at the
> end of the year. If indeed that is the case, has anyone
> heard anything about what will happen to that stick?
>
> Curious as to whether Galli keeps it and goes Jack (or some
> other format) or if he casts it aside. If he were to sell,
> who would toss their hat into the ring? It'd be a nice
> acquisition for Magnum to cure some of the reception
> problems for their AM or FM. First Media is pretty much a
> stand-alone in the State College Market anyway...or who
> knows perhaps even Allegheny Mountain would make a run for
> it (although I sure have not heard any news of planned buys)
>
>
> I could see it being a nice localized country outlet even
> though Froggy would be hard to tumble over. Or as stated
> before, WBLF-FM would have a nice ring to it maybe???
>
> Comments, predictions, etc???
>
 
I'm guessing, but I would imagine that the initial contract must have been for at least a year wouldn't it? That would make the year end in like March or April. We can all K-love for at least that long.

> call me silly, but it is my understanding 2510 has an LMA
> agreement with EMF, the K-Love people for a good while
> yet...I wouldn't expect any changes.
>
> > I have read on this forum that it is believed that Nick's
> > agreement to keep 107.9 non-competitive will expire at the
>
> > end of the year. If indeed that is the case, has anyone
> > heard anything about what will happen to that stick?
> >
> > Curious as to whether Galli keeps it and goes Jack (or
> some
> > other format) or if he casts it aside. If he were to
> sell,
> > who would toss their hat into the ring? It'd be a nice
> > acquisition for Magnum to cure some of the reception
> > problems for their AM or FM. First Media is pretty much a
>
> > stand-alone in the State College Market anyway...or who
> > knows perhaps even Allegheny Mountain would make a run for
>
> > it (although I sure have not heard any news of planned
> buys)
> >
> >
> > I could see it being a nice localized country outlet even
> > though Froggy would be hard to tumble over. Or as stated
> > before, WBLF-FM would have a nice ring to it maybe???
> >
> > Comments, predictions, etc???
> >
>
 
most LMAs are for 2 to 3 years and often with the option for first right to purchase. With the amount of filings and paperwork, I don't think the FCC even allows a one year LMA.


> I'm guessing, but I would imagine that the initial contract
> must have been for at least a year wouldn't it? That would
> make the year end in like March or April. We can all K-love
> for at least that long.
>
> > call me silly, but it is my understanding 2510 has an LMA
> > agreement with EMF, the K-Love people for a good while
> > yet...I wouldn't expect any changes.
> >
> > > I have read on this forum that it is believed that
> Nick's
> > > agreement to keep 107.9 non-competitive will expire at
> the
> >
> > > end of the year. If indeed that is the case, has anyone
>
> > > heard anything about what will happen to that stick?
> > >
> > > Curious as to whether Galli keeps it and goes Jack (or
> > some
> > > other format) or if he casts it aside. If he were to
> > sell,
> > > who would toss their hat into the ring? It'd be a nice
> > > acquisition for Magnum to cure some of the reception
> > > problems for their AM or FM. First Media is pretty much
> a
> >
> > > stand-alone in the State College Market anyway...or who
> > > knows perhaps even Allegheny Mountain would make a run
> for
> >
> > > it (although I sure have not heard any news of planned
> > buys)
> > >
> > >
> > > I could see it being a nice localized country outlet
> even
> > > though Froggy would be hard to tumble over. Or as
> stated
> > > before, WBLF-FM would have a nice ring to it maybe???
> > >
> > > Comments, predictions, etc???
> > >
> >
>
 
> I'm guessing, but I would imagine that the initial contract
> must have been for at least a year wouldn't it? That would
> make the year end in like March or April. We can all K-love
> for at least that long.

Hallelujah, praise the Lord and amen brothers and sisters...
 
> most LMAs are for 2 to 3 years and often with the option for
> first right to purchase. With the amount of filings and
> paperwork, I don't think the FCC even allows a one year LMA.

That being the case. Any inkling as to how or IF that station is actually making enough to support itself? I know they do not sell advertising in the conventional fashion and that they rely on listener contributions, etc.

Also with the stations not being ranked in the books by Arbitron, any way of knowing just how many people are listening and such?

I am curious how the already flooded Christian Market is faring with this new entry
 
> That being the case. Any inkling as to how or IF that
> station is actually making enough to support itself?

The national organization that runs K-Love (what is it called? EMF?) is pretty big and must be sitting on a pile of cash--contributions--to run 100+ stations as non-profit and non-commercial. It ain't about makin' money; it's all about saving souls. You know--just like Pat Robertson and CBN Television.
>
> Also with the stations not being ranked in the books by
> Arbitron, any way of knowing just how many people are
> listening and such?

Sure. Remember, non-commercial stations (like WPSU) do show up in the ratings, they're just not "in the book."
>
> I am curious how the already flooded Christian Market is
> faring with this new entry

Well, I remember hearing that WTLR did take a big hit last time, but it's hard to tell why. WRXV? WGRC? WKVB? All of 'em?
>
 
> > That being the case. Any inkling as to how or IF that
> > station is actually making enough to support itself?
>
> The national organization that runs K-Love (what is it
> called? EMF?) is pretty big and must be sitting on a pile of
> cash--contributions--to run 100+ stations as non-profit and
> non-commercial. It ain't about makin' money; it's all about
> saving souls. You know--just like Pat Robertson and CBN
> Television.
> >
Last I heard...I thought Pat Robertson was sitting on a PILE of cash. Remember you have to PAY to have them pray for your soul :) Salvation does not come for free.

I really do not have a problem with the station itself. As far as Christian FM's go, its sounds pretty well programmed (but its not my cup of tea for sure). I just feel the market is already soooooo oversaturated with Christian this and that on the dial.

It'd be nice to see one of them move to something else, but I doubt anyone will have much luck getting them to turn away from the Lord and turn toward some kind of heathen format...how about all Marilyn Manson all the time? Then the listeners really would NEED our prayers :)
 
> > most LMAs are for 2 to 3 years and often with the option
> for
> > first right to purchase. With the amount of filings and
> > paperwork, I don't think the FCC even allows a one year
> LMA.
>
> That being the case. Any inkling as to how or IF that
> station is actually making enough to support itself? I know
> they do not sell advertising in the conventional fashion and
> that they rely on listener contributions, etc.
>
> Also with the stations not being ranked in the books by
> Arbitron, any way of knowing just how many people are
> listening and such?
>
> I am curious how the already flooded Christian Market is
> faring with this new entry
>

EMF makes a deal with station owners to carry their programming and pays them accordingly. The owner wouldn't make a deal that had them losing money unless somehow losing money would benefit them.
 
An LMA is a contract between radio companies. It should be reported to the
FCC, but with the exception of some basic rules and stipulations, it is not
governed by the FCC as far as its term or length of contract. If you wanted to
LMA a station for a 6 month term, or 3 months, that is between the stations owners and the entity entering into the LMA.

> most LMAs are for 2 to 3 years and often with the option for
> first right to purchase. With the amount of filings and
> paperwork, I don't think the FCC even allows a one year LMA.
>
>
>
> > I'm guessing, but I would imagine that the initial
> contract
> > must have been for at least a year wouldn't it? That would
>
> > make the year end in like March or April. We can all
> K-love
> > for at least that long.
> >
> > > call me silly, but it is my understanding 2510 has an
> LMA
> > > agreement with EMF, the K-Love people for a good while
> > > yet...I wouldn't expect any changes.
> > >
> > > > I have read on this forum that it is believed that
> > Nick's
> > > > agreement to keep 107.9 non-competitive will expire at
>
> > the
> > >
> > > > end of the year. If indeed that is the case, has
> anyone
> >
> > > > heard anything about what will happen to that stick?
> > > >
> > > > Curious as to whether Galli keeps it and goes Jack (or
>
> > > some
> > > > other format) or if he casts it aside. If he were to
> > > sell,
> > > > who would toss their hat into the ring? It'd be a
> nice
> > > > acquisition for Magnum to cure some of the reception
> > > > problems for their AM or FM. First Media is pretty
> much
> > a
> > >
> > > > stand-alone in the State College Market anyway...or
> who
> > > > knows perhaps even Allegheny Mountain would make a run
>
> > for
> > >
> > > > it (although I sure have not heard any news of planned
>
> > > buys)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I could see it being a nice localized country outlet
> > even
> > > > though Froggy would be hard to tumble over. Or as
> > stated
> > > > before, WBLF-FM would have a nice ring to it maybe???
> > > >
> > > > Comments, predictions, etc???
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
 
> Last I heard...I thought Pat Robertson was sitting on a PILE
> of cash.

Last you heard? You thought? What was the most recent financial statement you looked at? All of corporations under his name are 501(c) non-profits so the financials are open to public review. All ya gotta do is ask for them. http://www.patrobertson.com. Not taking a side here, just relaying the info.

> Remember you have to PAY to have them pray for
> your soul :)

Nope...you can do that all by yourself.

> Salvation does not come for free.

Haven't picked up a Bible lately huh? The price on salvation hasn't gone up in 2005 years...the price is still ZERO :)

> I really do not have a problem with the station itself. As
> far as Christian FM's go, its sounds pretty well programmed
> (but its not my cup of tea for sure). I just feel the
> market is already soooooo oversaturated with Christian this
> and that on the dial.

Saturated? You mean as a format? Because if radio is saturated with anything, it's SECULAR radio. There are way more secular formats than Christian formats. And not all Christian formats are the same, just like all secular formats are not the same.

V.
 
> > Last I heard...I thought Pat Robertson was sitting on a
> PILE
> > of cash.
>
> Last you heard? You thought? What was the most recent
> financial statement you looked at? All of corporations
> under his name are 501(c) non-profits so the financials are
> open to public review. All ya gotta do is ask for them.
> http://www.patrobertson.com. Not taking a side here, just
> relaying the info.
>
> > Remember you have to PAY to have them pray for
> > your soul :)
>
> Nope...you can do that all by yourself.
>
> > Salvation does not come for free.
>
> Haven't picked up a Bible lately huh? The price on
> salvation hasn't gone up in 2005 years...the price is still
> ZERO :)
>
> > I really do not have a problem with the station itself.
> As
> > far as Christian FM's go, its sounds pretty well
> programmed
> > (but its not my cup of tea for sure). I just feel the
> > market is already soooooo oversaturated with Christian
> this
> > and that on the dial.
>
> Saturated? You mean as a format? Because if radio is
> saturated with anything, it's SECULAR radio. There are way
> more secular formats than Christian formats. And not all
> Christian formats are the same, just like all secular
> formats are not the same.
>
> V.
>
Funny how the "price of salvation" hasn't changed in 2000 years but the gospel can be broken down into different "formats." Pat Robertson is in control of a vast amount of money both with CBN & his personal finances.
He has a well known business deal with President Mobutu, the ruthless dictator of Zaire. Robertson has invested millions in diamond mines & agriculture there and his dealings with this tyrant have brought him heavy criticism from many Christian organizations. Don't take my word for it, do your own research. Pat Robertson is not a Christian, he just plays one on TV. 2000 years ago, Christ would have driven him from the temple with the business end of a whip.
 
Pat Robertson is just another human man. Anyone who follows him, donates everything they have to him or worships him instead of the Lord is an idiot anyway.

Christian radio serves a different function...it gives enjoyable music to thse who prefer more wholesome words to their preference of musical style.

> > > Last I heard...I thought Pat Robertson was sitting on a
> > PILE
> > > of cash.
> >
> > Last you heard? You thought? What was the most recent
> > financial statement you looked at? All of corporations
> > under his name are 501(c) non-profits so the financials
> are
> > open to public review. All ya gotta do is ask for them.
> > http://www.patrobertson.com. Not taking a side here, just
>
> > relaying the info.
> >
> > > Remember you have to PAY to have them pray for
> > > your soul :)
> >
> > Nope...you can do that all by yourself.
> >
> > > Salvation does not come for free.
> >
> > Haven't picked up a Bible lately huh? The price on
> > salvation hasn't gone up in 2005 years...the price is
> still
> > ZERO :)
> >
> > > I really do not have a problem with the station itself.
>
> > As
> > > far as Christian FM's go, its sounds pretty well
> > programmed
> > > (but its not my cup of tea for sure). I just feel the
> > > market is already soooooo oversaturated with Christian
> > this
> > > and that on the dial.
> >
> > Saturated? You mean as a format? Because if radio is
> > saturated with anything, it's SECULAR radio. There are
> way
> > more secular formats than Christian formats. And not all
> > Christian formats are the same, just like all secular
> > formats are not the same.
> >
> > V.
> >
> Funny how the "price of salvation" hasn't changed in 2000
> years but the gospel can be broken down into different
> "formats." Pat Robertson is in control of a vast amount of
> money both with CBN & his personal finances.
> He has a well known business deal with President Mobutu, the
> ruthless dictator of Zaire. Robertson has invested millions
> in diamond mines & agriculture there and his dealings with
> this tyrant have brought him heavy criticism from many
> Christian organizations. Don't take my word for it, do your
> own research. Pat Robertson is not a Christian, he just
> plays one on TV. 2000 years ago, Christ would have driven
> him from the temple with the business end of a whip.
>
 
Wow...that whole "judge not..." thing just doesn't sink in anymore...


> Funny how the "price of salvation" hasn't changed in 2000
> years but the gospel can be broken down into different
> "formats." Pat Robertson is in control of a vast amount of
> money both with CBN & his personal finances.
> He has a well known business deal with President Mobutu, the
> ruthless dictator of Zaire. Robertson has invested millions
> in diamond mines & agriculture there and his dealings with
> this tyrant have brought him heavy criticism from many
> Christian organizations. Don't take my word for it, do your
> own research. Pat Robertson is not a Christian, he just
> plays one on TV. 2000 years ago, Christ would have driven
> him from the temple with the business end of a whip.
>
 
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