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Anybody hearing Oldies skywave on 1160?

I read a post here once from someone who could hear 1160 out of Cincinnati in one portion of the Chicago market, despite the WYLL nighttime signal. Salem has sold their 1160 signal in Cincinnati and a local group of Oldies geeks is doing an LMA. The call letters are now WDJO. The Real Oldies format is back in town. How is WRLL doing? I think the signals are comparable based on the sizes of the two markets.
 
At night I can hear RealOldies 1690 in Bloomington, Indiana when visiting my family. I just wish I could hear it at night in the Northwest Suburbs of Chicago!!


> I read a post here once from someone who could hear 1160 out
> of Cincinnati in one portion of the Chicago market, despite
> the WYLL nighttime signal. Salem has sold their 1160 signal
> in Cincinnati and a local group of Oldies geeks is doing an
> LMA. The call letters are now WDJO. The Real Oldies format
> is back in town. How is WRLL doing? I think the signals
> are comparable based on the sizes of the two markets.
>
 
Is WYLL's new night pattern on the air?

We're having a debate on the Cincinnati board since the new oldies station went on at 1160. We're wondering if WYLL has their new site built for night service and if they're actually using it. They've filed an extension of an STA which makes me think it's not all spec yet. Plus, I hear the new owners of WDJO in Cincy are waiting for Salem to get their night pattern in order. That was part of the deal when Salem sold them the station.

Can anybody help?
 
Re: Is WYLL's new night pattern on the air?

> We're having a debate on the Cincinnati board since the new
> oldies station went on at 1160. We're wondering if WYLL has
> their new site built for night service and if they're
> actually using it. They've filed an extension of an STA
> which makes me think it's not all spec yet. Plus, I hear
> the new owners of WDJO in Cincy are waiting for Salem to get
> their night pattern in order. That was part of the deal
> when Salem sold them the station.
>
> Can anybody help?
>
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Re: Is WYLL's new night pattern on the air?

I thought that WYLL AM-1160 is an all talk Christian talk format station,
with the transmitting power of 50.000 watts at 27/7-?
How can you hear a station call WDJO playing real oldies when WYLL AM-1160
has alot of bleeding over on other stations???...

Colonel Parker
 
Re:UPDATE: This Could Be a Pirate Radio Station

However, I do not listen to WYLL AM-1160 ever since WJJD went off the air.
I did a search on www.radio-locator.com and I found zero stations with
any of those call letters. (WDJO, WJDO or WLMA)

If I'm correct, You had stated that a bunch of local group of Oldies geeks
is doing an LMA (LMA=whatever that means?) sounds like a bunch of radio pirates
getting together to operate an un-license AM radio station,

In www.radio-locator.com I punch in WDJO, WJDO and WLMA and nothing comes up!
So there for you might be hearing a pirate radio station that interfears
with WYLL AM-1160...

Colonel Parker
 
> I read a post here once from someone who could hear 1160 out
> of Cincinnati in one portion of the Chicago market, despite
> the WYLL nighttime signal. Salem has sold their 1160 signal
> in Cincinnati and a local group of Oldies geeks is doing an
> LMA. The call letters are now WDJO. The Real Oldies format
> is back in town. How is WRLL doing? I think the signals
> are comparable based on the sizes of the two markets.
>
What's going on is this:

KMGS (1160) in Highland, TX doesn't drop power until 6:30PM so their 35KW skywave comes hopping in under WYLL in the northern suburbs after WYLL switches to their Lockport night site at 5:30. So there is an hour or so when KMGS is heard under WYLL. KMGS is an Oldies formatted station. The old WBOB is still a Christian formatted station.

Anyway, the WYLL night signal from Lockport is now much better than it was at 5KW from DesPlaines. Now if only 1160 was a "clear channel".

Dr. Dave
 
Re:UPDATE: This Could Be a Pirate Radio Station

> However, I do not listen to WYLL AM-1160 ever since WJJD
> went off the air.
> I did a search on www.radio-locator.com and I found zero
> stations with
> any of those call letters. (WDJO, WJDO or WLMA)
>
> If I'm correct, You had stated that a bunch of local group
> of Oldies geeks
> is doing an LMA (LMA=whatever that means?) sounds like a
> bunch of radio pirates
> getting together to operate an un-license AM radio station,

LMA--Local Marketing Agreement. Where another company is taken on by the actual owner of the station to manage the station. Was allowed starting in the 90s before actual duopoly rules came into effect.

I can be corrected, but the only Chicago LMA going right now, AFAIK, is a non-com one: WBEZ Alliance/Chicago Public Radio is operating Loyola University's WLUW at 88.7 FM, with the same indie rock format as before Loyola LMA'd out the station.
 
Re:UPDATE: This Could Be a Pirate Radio Station

Thanks for the Info Mr. Stevens...

Colonel Parker
 
Re: The old WBOB is now Oldies as WDJO

> WBOB is dead. It's now WDJO Real Oldies.
>
> That's why you would have heard it

That's odd...the FCC database doesn't show any station with the WDJO call letters.
>
Also, the still show WBOB calls in their database....was this a very recent change?

Anyway...back in December I confirmed that it was the guys in Texas that were giving us greif they used the ID "Smokin Oldies".

Whatever!

Dr. Dave
Chief Engr
WYLL-AM
 
Re: The old WBOB will soon be WDJO

> WBOB is dead. It's now WDJO Real Oldies.
>
> That's why you would have heard it

From what I've read in the FCC records, the sale of 1160 WBOB by Caron Broadcasting ( one of Salem Communications holding companies ) to Christian Broadcasting Systems has been approved by the FCC....BUT....the actual sale between those two parties has not consumated yet. The WDJO call letters are "reserved" by C.B.S. and will be used ...but are not being used at this time. Hence, the OLDIES format likely isn't coming from that station (yet).

Dr. Dave
>
 
The FCC hasn't caught up yet

The sale WAS consumated less than a week agao. At 4:00 pm Friday 2/10. Salem asked that they run their programs until midnight, and then they flipped it to WDJO and Oldies. Believe me. This IS the station. I live right across the street from their 4-tower array in Florence, KY. The other station Salem sold them is now WCVX but still shows up in the database as WTSJ. Look for the WBOB and WTSJ call letters coming soon to a Salem station near you...or far from you even.

Look at www.wbob.com and www.wtsj.com
 
Re: The FCC hasn't caught up yet

> The sale WAS consumated less than a week agao. At 4:00 pm
> Friday 2/10. Salem asked that they run their programs until
> midnight, and then they flipped it to WDJO and Oldies.
> Believe me. This IS the station. I live right across the
> street from their 4-tower array in Florence, KY. The other
> station Salem sold them is now WCVX but still shows up in
> the database as WTSJ. Look for the WBOB and WTSJ call
> letters coming soon to a Salem station near you...or far
> from you even.
>
> Look at www.wbob.com and www.wtsj.com
>
Well I'll be...I guess I'm a little behind ( is there a pun in there? )

Dr. Dave
 
Re: The FCC hasn't caught up yet

Look for the WBOB and WTSJ call
> letters coming soon to a Salem station near you...or far
> from you even.
>

You are correct. The WBOB calls have surfaced on a station near Rocky Mount in eastern North Carolina. Check out the Eastern NC discussion board if you're curious.
 
> Anyway, the WYLL night signal from Lockport is now much
> better than it was at 5KW from DesPlaines. Now if only 1160
> was a "clear channel".

1160 *is* a clear channel. (small c's)

The dominant station is KSL in Salt Lake City.
 
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