Hate to see the thread trail off....I'm on a quest to find more WNAP on air jingle links or parts of the morning show anyone might have....
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Anymore on WNAP?
- Thread starter Betelguese
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I'm looking at teh old studio sign that says WNAP in gold print. About 10 inches by 24 inches.
Called the AM people about getting the callsign here in Indiana and they never call back.
Went to the reinvented raft race when it was last held. They never were able to get the momentum of the earlier events.
Reason : Generation X.
When "we" were young we did things. Gen X didn't doesn't seem to give a darn.
Bodine, Smash, Motogroove, all off the radio and it isn't the fun it used to be. If you get some old airchecks find a link where we can see them.
On N IL we used to wait for the receptionist's announcement around lunchtime :
The Roach Coach Has Arrived.
Duvall would just shake his head and mumble away...
Called the AM people about getting the callsign here in Indiana and they never call back.
Went to the reinvented raft race when it was last held. They never were able to get the momentum of the earlier events.
Reason : Generation X.
When "we" were young we did things. Gen X didn't doesn't seem to give a darn.
Bodine, Smash, Motogroove, all off the radio and it isn't the fun it used to be. If you get some old airchecks find a link where we can see them.
On N IL we used to wait for the receptionist's announcement around lunchtime :
The Roach Coach Has Arrived.
Duvall would just shake his head and mumble away...
Hey Chief, thanks for the reply. I still have a few momento's of the old days. I have my T Shirt with the smilling Buzzard on it in white and black, neither fit me anymore, I have pictures of the 4 raft races I was in and have my car key fob. Used to have some other stuff but can't remember what half of it was,..now.
Yes,
Smash is still on teh air but radio just isn't the fun thing it once was. Even Smash here on mornings was good but just not quite right. The station he came back to wasn't the one he left.
Kind of like my buzzard jacket. It used to fit in 1981. The last time I tried it on it would go over the arms but not around the waist........
Smash is still on teh air but radio just isn't the fun thing it once was. Even Smash here on mornings was good but just not quite right. The station he came back to wasn't the one he left.
Kind of like my buzzard jacket. It used to fit in 1981. The last time I tried it on it would go over the arms but not around the waist........
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kirkiefan
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Two things:
1)The WNAP call sign is used at a gospel station in Norristown,PA so the callsign moving back isn't going to happen
2)If you have an ample stash of WNAP jingles and liners in your aircheck collection...you may want to start a micropower FM/online stream tribute to The Buzzard..(WBZD per se?) just a suggestion. For info on starting a legit micropower FM go to:
www.radiobrandy.com (keep it no more than 100 milliwatts)
You may want to get on the phone and ask WIBC's staff as to who produced the WNAP jingles....When I used to listen to The Buzzard the jingles sounded kinda PAMS-ish. PAMS(thru owner JAM Creative Productions) does sell station jingles to collectors (provided you don't air them.)
www.pams.com
Good luck!
1)The WNAP call sign is used at a gospel station in Norristown,PA so the callsign moving back isn't going to happen
2)If you have an ample stash of WNAP jingles and liners in your aircheck collection...you may want to start a micropower FM/online stream tribute to The Buzzard..(WBZD per se?) just a suggestion. For info on starting a legit micropower FM go to:
www.radiobrandy.com (keep it no more than 100 milliwatts)
You may want to get on the phone and ask WIBC's staff as to who produced the WNAP jingles....When I used to listen to The Buzzard the jingles sounded kinda PAMS-ish. PAMS(thru owner JAM Creative Productions) does sell station jingles to collectors (provided you don't air them.)
www.pams.com
Good luck!
Here's some trivia. Asher Benrubi (Smash) has a son, Abraham Benrubi who is an actor. He played "Jerry" on the TV show "ER". Great big guy, heavyset. He was also featured in a movie with Kevin Costner and Robert Duvall called "Open Range". I used to live in Woodruff Place back in the late 70's through the 80's and so did Smash. I remember that big for his age, heavy kid riding his bike around the neighborhood. And Smash used to come to our neighborhood meetings occasionally.
Radio, like your old Buzzard jacket, hasn't changed.
We have.
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We have changed but radio hasn't?
Very unlikely.
In 1981 my 64 k hard drive wouldnt hold a voice track let alone a single mp3.
The good : a live person had to play every element except for those FM stations no one listened to.
The bad : cue burns
The ugly : That Q 95 VW
We have.
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We have changed but radio hasn't?
Very unlikely.
In 1981 my 64 k hard drive wouldnt hold a voice track let alone a single mp3.
The good : a live person had to play every element except for those FM stations no one listened to.
The bad : cue burns
The ugly : That Q 95 VW
ChiefEngineer said:
I don't know. I'm probably saying nothing new or even important here. And taking too much of our time to say it.
Martin, you know that I've been there watching those changes in technology. I'd guess that we'd agree that those changes are for the better.
Beyond the technology of mp3 vs. tape cart, at the core, radio remains what it's always been. An audio delivery source for commercials, music, news, weather, sports, talk. The radio is still a radio. The Buzzard jacket is still a Buzzard jacket.
And yes, I believe that you and I and most everyone else that hangs around here talking about the good ol days of the Buzzard or of WLW Hot Wax weekends might want to consider that we've changed.
When you and I met in 1981, would I have ever taken you for a future operator of a CCM? Or that Bob Hawkins would ever listen to country music? Or that a talent like Paul Kenney would be selling time in Bloomington?
I'd have sooner declared the very thought "ridiculous!"
But you know full well that all of us have changed. Tastes, opinions, language, actions, responses, values, beliefs. All have changed.
Sure, radio has its problems. There are fewer jobs for some. Formatics and music may not match what we like...now. But if radio doesn't remain a viable option to reach a large audience with an important message, why are you operating WJCF?
The point I thought you were trying to make, and that I considered to be a very valid and good point, is that while we all sit here considering the changes resulting in no more Buzzard, we might also want to consider that we too have changed.
It may NOT be that radio isn't as good as when Buster ruled the nights. Or when Chris Bailey ramped Harold Melvin. Or that Smiley on "Z99.5" will never top Hutch on "99 The NEW WIKS."
It may simply be that we no longer like that style of music, that DJ's presentation or that PD's style of programming.
That it's our tastes that have changed.
Long Live "Smash" and 'Roadmaster'!!! (Featuring Toby on the bass).... 
history said:
I was in Muncie today working on whatever is at 990 these days. Afterwards we went to Arbys and the young college guys were flirting with the wait staff. They kept ringing that good service bell and laughing and hooting. Nice to visit a college town....
As they say "Youth is wasted on the young." Why did we have to turn into old farts and is it permanent?
Just because we like a certain format doesn't mean we are too old to have fun.
Mel Taylor had a 20 min clip of Randy Michaels and man is HE old. His hair is completely gray. At the start of the Tribune mess he had some black hair but not now. He HASN"T lost the excitement and MO and enjoys coming back from the dead.
Radio has become so compartmentalized (new word like Ginormous) (frangmented then) that things are different.
I remember at 8 every station played the same songs except that tan town station from Memphis and I heard music no one else played. That WAS exciting.
What do we do now? Like Michaels I'm NOT ready to die and want to have fun doing it.
And Paul Kelley is selling in Bloomington??? Angotti?? Wait, that's Buffalo Bill.......from Brazil.
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flashback
Guest
history said:
of course radio has changed. there is discussion all across this forum about how it has. whether it is good change or bad change opinions may differ but there has been change.
I have changed some but the way I like a music station to be is pretty much like the 60`s and 70`s wnap or the bits I heard of the underground stations across the country.since that kind of radio is no more, there definitly been has been change.
flashback said:
Personal story.
There was an afternoon guy that, over the years, I had gradually stopped listening to. So I listened - to about a week of him late last year. And I was really disappointed. I didn't find him funny. Nothing there to make me want to continue listening. No content that interested me.
So I pulled out some tape I had of him from the 80s - when I was a big fan of this guy. Listened. Much to my surprise I found that his show wasn't that different. Delivery, content, consistently all very much the same in the late 80s as late 2007. No wonder some people complained about how stale his show had become.
Curious. The question I had to answer was who or what had changed? Obviously, I had. Hope that explains my point, and my misread of Martin's Buzzard jacket comment.
Peace.
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flashback
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history said:
both people and radio have changed.your point is very good but both have changed.
flashback said:
"Nothing endures but change." - Heraclitus
Okay, so maybe I'm just playing semantics. Most will probably laugh and say that I'm only contradicting myself. But radio is always about change. Constant change. Formats, ownership, personalities.
The golden age of network comedy, drama, and live music gave way to locally produced recorded music shows. Wally Nehrling gave way to Gary Todd. Gary gave way to Bob & Tom. AM gave way to FM.
The station in the subject line changed in the mid 80s. My all-time favorite radio station changed in the mid 70s.
Yeah...I know. We're talking change as in ownership and formats and technology and DJs out of work.
But when there were less than a handful of radio stations in Cincinnati, Powel Crosley owned two of them. And consider the vast numbers that were unemployed when live bands gave way to records, and board op engineers lost their seat to gain riding DJs. Except for the rare engineer that remained to cue records, and eventually fire carts, and maybe even mp3 files.
It hurts to say it. Some of the best talent and best programmers that I worked with are now gone from the studio. When they started in radio they knew the ride would end some day. No surprise that it happened.
Still, when I get back to Indy, I'm always pleased at how the market really hasn't changed. Bernie and Eric and Scott are still jocking AC. Jim and J.D. and Darren are still jocking country. Dave and Kelly are still ramping the hot hits. Most every other station in Indy, with the exception of maybe Hank and Now, have a couple of people in the studio that I know and have enjoyed working with.
Asimov's paraphrase of Heraclitus was "the only constant is change." The wind changes. Temps change. Drivers at the Speedway or attendance at Pacer games or coaches at I.U. change. So what does that mean to me? I guess I have to ask - if change is a constant, is it really change? (How's that for history’s “abstract concept of the day?”)
So I'm always a little surprised when I interpret or misinterpret something I read to say that - somehow - the current change in radio is something new. As if telecom '96 opened a Pandora's Box that previous generations of broadcasters had somehow been willing to leave shut.
We're in the same boat flashback. You're favorite progressive Buzzard changed and won't be back. My favorite AM top 40 changed to beautiful music and eventually religious and finally sports.
So...okay. I'll give you this one. Radio has changed too.
At the same time, it’s not radio that has changed.
And let’s leave it at that.
Nice speech, History! Your words spell truth. I would hope that no one could expect things to stay the same. I certainly haven't. I merely enjoy the stoll, as do others down that lane of memories......
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