Anyone have a Motorola V365 cell phone?

[TomT]

We need to switch cell phone carriers. Present CDMA provider has killed off the analog cells, and not replaced the coverage they provided. Many areas that used to have service are now dead zones.

Meanwhile, AT&T bought out another carrier and moved into the area with GSM cells, --and added service into what used to be complete white areas for cell. So we are changing, but, of course, need new phones.

Unfortunately, no-one seems to make cell phones with jacks for "hands-free,"--that is, headset/external mike wired connections. Which we need for those occasional remotes where there are no land lines, or pop up too fast to order a land line. (Such as when the state high school sports folks decided to move a basketball tournament game to a different site--the morning of the game!).

AT&T does offer the Motorola V365, which has a jack like we use on our present V-60 for a mike or J/K unit. But the manual makes no mention of this jack--their idea of hands free is a Blue Tooth. So, if anyone out there has this model cell phone, the question of the day is whether this jack is indeed for hands-free head sets. On the V-60, an EV 635 wired to tip and shield works just fine; the J/K sportscaster has an adapter that will work in a pinch into this jack.

 

[busyradioguy]

Meanwhile, AT&T bought out another carrier and moved into the area with GSM cells, --and added service into what used to be complete white areas for cell. So we are changing, but, of course, need new phones.

Tom,

Are you in the U.S.? If so, don't get too excited about GSM technology. AT&T and Sprint have both eliminated GSM services in most locations.

 

[amfmsw]

Tom...I got one for free. Actually, I was paid $.05 to take it out of the store! It's a Trac Phone throw away. Always a signal as their phones use ANY signal available, Sprint, AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile (hence Track)... and put the call through.

On Thanksgiving morning, K-Mart had one of those four hour specials. A Trac Phone w/charger and one hour of time was reduced to $9.95. AND you got a $10 K-Mart gift card with purchase! Profit of a nickel. I am one cheap bastard.

It holds a charge for nearly a week, and has the necessary jack for audio.

It doen't take pictures. It doesn't take video. It' doesn't fold (enourmous battery). It just works... every single time.

And...no monthly bill.

 

[amfmsw]

oops..."one" being a cell with jacks.

 

[TomT]

Could be that the AT&T sites use CDMA. But their sites only seem to work with AT&T or T-mobile phones. Verizon, Sprint or Alltel phones--with wide area roaming privileges--say there is no signal available in plain site of the cell tower. Plus, what is frustrating, is that my Alltel phone--an old tri-mode phone, which used to work most anywhere, is now finding more and more dead zones. AT&T bought out Cellular One, and is expanding in this area, while other carriers are just hanging on.

Competition is great for the folks in the big cities. Out here in hill country I'd rather have a tightly controlled monopoly that would bring us consistent service.

 

[dtube1]

CellOne/ATT use TDMA for digital. JK Audio has a couple remote mixer boxes that incorporate BlueTooth. As almost every cell phone features BlueTooth nowadays, that would make for pretty easy remotes that even a DJ could handle (provided that the phone was pre-configured to talk with the JK).
-D

 

[audiophile.]

Why does the AT&T get into every piece of electronic gear, with the buzzsaw sound. CDMA phones don't cause any noticable problem.

 

[OttoM]

AT&T does offer the Motorola V365, which has a jack like we use on our present V-60 for a mike or J/K unit. But the manual makes no mention of this jack--their idea of hands free is a Blue Tooth. So, if anyone out there has this model cell phone, the question of the day is whether this jack is indeed for hands-free head sets. On the V-60, an EV 635 wired to tip and shield works just fine; the J/K sportscaster has an adapter that will work in a pinch into this jack.

If it helps, I have a V195 from T-Mobile that looks a lot like your V365. It supports both Bluetooth hands free and direct headset connections to the 2.5mm jack. I've used a headset with the 2.5mm jack without any problems.

 

[OKCRadioGuy]

GSM is like that. It sends out big bursts of data back and forth opposed to the CDMA-type signal that is more of a steady stream of data, and usually at a lower power level to get the job done. For the poor guy wanting to get a bag-phone replacement, how about trying a nice Tellular? It has a normal jack on the side where you can plug your hybrid in just like a land-line.

 

[techie2]

Telular? I forgot about those. I'll start trolling eBay for a used GSM unit. I use a specially modified Zercom (had a switch added to disable the loop loss alarm) and one of those Daptor One boxes to do sports on cell, but I have some problems with the level being too low coming into certain cell phones.

 

[w00t]

To clear up some of the misinformation in this thread...

Verizon, Sprint, Alltel, and U.S. Cellular are CDMA
AT&T and T-Mobile are GSM
The Nextel side of Sprint is iDEN

Tracphone is either GSM or CDMA... one or the other, never both at the same time. Which one you get really depends on your region and who covers the best.

Analog and TDMA networks were for the most part shut off in February. Alltel is phasing theirs out in three different steps based on the state you are in.

 

[TomT]

Present station phone is Verizon, which has spotty service in our area. My own phone is Alltel, which used to work many places where Verizon has poor service. It's an old Motorola V-60, tri-band (both digital/analog), but, as noted, analog service is/has gone away. A number of places where I used to have good service have gone dark.

The only carrier adding towers seems to be AT&T, which recently moved into the area by buying Cellular One. Which also cost us a lot of business, since AT&T doesn't provide any co-op money to their dealers, unlike Cellular One. AT&T recently added towers "back in the hills" where there was no cell service before. As mentioned, one tower is near a regional high school we are at quite often (next week, in fact, for another Cancer Walk remote).

 

[gunterm]

CellOne/ATT use TDMA for digital. JK Audio has a couple remote mixer boxes that incorporate BlueTooth. As almost every cell phone features BlueTooth nowadays, that would make for pretty easy remotes that even a DJ could handle (provided that the phone was pre-configured to talk with the JK).
-D

I wouldn't run anything through bluetooth that is meant for broadcast, bluetooth uses lossy and frequently poor quality audio compression that can really crap up the quality.

 

[dtube1]

I wouldn't run anything through bluetooth that is meant for broadcast, bluetooth uses lossy and frequently poor quality audio compression that can really crap up the quality.

I don't think its possible to make cellular audio sound any worse ;D. Seriously though, is the audio run through another codec when using blue tooth accessories on cell phones? If so, it would be possible to make cellular audio worse.
-D

 

[TomT]

We avoid using cell phone audio,(for one thing, the delay drives talent nuts) but some remote sites just don't have any telephone circuits available. When we have to use cell phone, we usually just plug a 635 into the external mike/headset jack (tip & shield is the mike circuit, ring and shield the headphone). Hence the question about the V365.

If the alternative is Blue Tooth it becomes simpler just to use the cell phone as a phone--and pass it back and forth for interviews.

 

[Fieldtech1]

I wouldn't run anything through bluetooth that is meant for broadcast, bluetooth uses lossy and frequently poor quality audio compression that can really crap up the quality.

I don't think its possible to make cellular audio sound any worse ;D. Seriously though, is the audio run through another codec when using blue tooth accessories on cell phones? If so, it would be possible to make cellular audio worse.
-D

Bluetooth headsets use amr( adaptive multi-rate) audio which is the same "codec" the phone uses to "talk" to the tower. When using a bluetooth headset the phone generally passes the amr stream untouched from the bluetooth headset directly to the tower without re-encoding the audio thus avoiding cascading codecs. From personal use i recommend the Jawbone headsets which use bone conductivity versus a mic.