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Anyone notice new staff at WBAB?

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MattBAA

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I was looking at WBAB's website the other day, and I saw a new name for weekends...our old friend Tom Panteleo! Good luck Tom and have fun playing Long Islands best Rock and Roll!<P ID="signature">______________

Co/Moderator: New York,Miami,Airchecks,Classic Radio and Where Are They Now?</P>
 
> I was looking at WBAB's website the other day, and I saw a
> new name for weekends...our old friend Tom Panteleo! Good
> luck Tom and have fun playing Long Islands best Rock and
> Roll!
>

Welcome back to the air Rocky, er, Tom!
Enjoyed listening to you on Island and WRCN...you were a good soldier who got a bum deal!
 
> Just went to their Website. Do they have a night jock &
> overnight jock?
>
Nope...after Klug left, they had some fill in guys, but now they are automated from 7PM to 6AM.<P ID="signature">______________

Co/Moderator: New York,Miami,Airchecks,Classic Radio and Where Are They Now?</P>
 
> > Just went to their Website. Do they have a night jock &
> > overnight jock?
> >
> Nope...after Klug left, they had some fill in guys, but now
> they are automated from 7PM to 6AM.
>
I can't believe WBAB has no night jock. From the days of the Cope & Opie and Anthony to automation. Geez!
 
Since when does Long Island's Best Rock and Roll mean the same burnt out 250 songs...?

-just a thought
 
> > > Just went to their Website. Do they have a night jock &
>
> > > overnight jock?
> > >
> > Nope...after Klug left, they had some fill in guys, but
> now
> > they are automated from 7PM to 6AM.
> >
> I can't believe WBAB has no night jock. From the days of
> the Cope & Opie and Anthony to automation. Geez!
>

Why would automation surprise you? Look at Jack in NYC. Look at most of the stations on the east end. It's cost effective. Who cares if it chops off songs and spots? Who cares if it crashes? As long as it helps grow revenue by shrinking overhead,who cares?? "F" em..."F" em all! There are stations that put up automation and clearly stated to their staff that “We will not be replacing people with this system.” Guess What?

Radio as we know it is so far removed from what we all grew up with. There will never be the excitement that WABC, WMCA and Z-100 created back in their day. Let’s not fool ourselves into believing otherwise. Kids will no longer worship radio stations as we did. They have the Internet, I-Pods, Satellite and a bunch of other crap that they can use to get the music they want. I applaud the few stations east of Riverhead that are sticking to tradition. I applaud those personalities that are trying to fit in and be entertaining, but not overbearing.

Why was the Satellite, Internet and I-Pod culture allowed to become a factor? Well kiddies because we were narrow-minded foolish elitists making less than a living wage, and unwilling to be entertaining and not overbearing. No one wants to hear a jock pontificate about things that their audience cannot relate to, yet we hear it everyday. Why is Howard Stern and jocks like Stern so successful? Their audience identifies with them. Who the hell is going to identify with some of the crap that we are subjected to listen to here on Long Island and nationwide for that matter.

If you are on the air now do the industry a favor and just be believable. Station Owners, GM’s PD’s seek out personalities that are relatable and that create a reason for the audience to listen and interact. Spend a sheckle or two. People will create a bond with your audience. Go the extra mile and do something on a personal level for the community you serve. Don’t make a big deal about it, just do it. Our predecessors in this industry were experts at this. Localization with the relatibility factor may be our only hope in the fight to keep terrestrial radio alive in a form similar to what you and I grew up with. It can also grow your revenue. If they can't sell it get someone who can!

Some of you may disagree with my comments, and that is your right, but tell me this; when was the last time that Long Island (Nassau or Suffolk) had a show or a personality that they really related too? Don’t answer with your name or the name of your buddy that you want to plug in this forum. Be honest. Is there someone now or recently that people relate to?

Let’s make radio real again, who knows we could grab some the revenue we’ve been losing to print, internet and cable TV.
 
Opie & Anthony on BAB

> Some of you may disagree with my comments, and that is your
> right, but tell me this; when was the last time that Long
> Island (Nassau or Suffolk) had a show or a personality that
> they really related too? Don’t answer with your name or
> the name of your buddy that you want to plug in this forum.
> Be honest. Is there someone now or recently that people
> relate to?
>
> Let’s make radio real again, who knows we could grab some
> the revenue we’ve been losing to print, internet and cable
> TV.
>
Most PDs on Long Island want the talent to just read the cards. I enjoyed listening to Opie & Anthony when they started out doing nights at WBAB.
 
Re: Opie & Anthony on BAB

> > Some of you may disagree with my comments, and that is
> your
> > right, but tell me this; when was the last time that Long
> > Island (Nassau or Suffolk) had a show or a personality
> that
> > they really related too? Don’t answer with your name or
>
> > the name of your buddy that you want to plug in this
> forum.
> > Be honest. Is there someone now or recently that people
> > relate to?
> >
> > Let’s make radio real again, who knows we could grab some
> > the revenue we’ve been losing to print, internet and cable
>
> > TV.
> >
> Most PDs on Long Island want the talent to just read the
> cards. I enjoyed listening to Opie & Anthony when they
> started out doing nights at WBAB.
>
My point exactly that is 10-11 years ago. So since then what?
 
> when was the last time that Long
> Island (Nassau or Suffolk) had a show or a personality that
> they really related too? Don’t answer with your name or
> the name of your buddy that you want to plug in this forum.
> Be honest. Is there someone now or recently that people
> relate to?

Bob Buchmann while at WBAB, always seemed to connect with his audience. In-fact, most of the Jocks from BAB and LIR back in the late 70's to early 90's were like that. Bob Klein and some of the folks at WALK as well. As I think about it, making your point, that radio era on Long Island was full of jocks we could relate to, in every genre of music. To the extend that some of those jocks are still around, they still do a great job. Donna Donna, Fingers, Roger Luce, Malibu Sue do a great job, in a more challenging corporate environment that didn't exist just a decade or so earlier. I know that the east end does a good job, but I can only speak to what I can hear in central Suffolk.
 
> Since when does Long Island's Best Rock and Roll mean the
> same burnt out 250 songs...?
>
> -just a thought
>

I checked out their playlist on yes.com. Pretty pitiful IMHO. Once upon a time this was a great rock station. But it seems cox has turned it into a shell of what it once was. There are allot more mainstream rock currents they could be playing besides the same three Greenday, U2, and Rolling Stones songs.
 
Re: Opie & Anthony on BAB

> > Some of you may disagree with my comments, and that is
> your
> > right, but tell me this; when was the last time that Long
> > Island (Nassau or Suffolk) had a show or a personality
> that
> > they really related too? Don’t answer with your name or
>
> > the name of your buddy that you want to plug in this
> forum.
> > Be honest. Is there someone now or recently that people
> > relate to?
> >
> > Let’s make radio real again, who knows we could grab some
> > the revenue we’ve been losing to print, internet and cable
>
> > TV.
> >
> Most PDs on Long Island want the talent to just read the
> cards. I enjoyed listening to Opie & Anthony when they
> started out doing nights at WBAB.
>
Perhaps most Program Directors do want their announcers to read liner cards and positioning statements. . .but not all. Here at WRIV, we don't have any liner cards although we do have a slogan or two. But even so, we still want the personality on-the-air to make a connection and communicate with the listeners. We believe that our strength is our ability to reflect the area we serve and communicate that to our listeners. To be blunt. . .no ipod provides human companionship. We do.

And for that matter. . .WLNG doesn't do the liner card thing either. . .and they are wildly successful. It must mean something. . .
 
Did it ever occur to anyone that if the jocks of the 90's had done a better job of staying in touch with what their audience was up to instead of laughing at what an easy gig it was to read liner cards and cash their 30k paychecks, no one would have ever imagined that they were unnecessary.

Sure, corporate radio groups are cost cutters but if the jocks were hugely popular for their specific gifts and talents they wouldn't have been replaced.
 
> Did it ever occur to anyone that if the jocks of the 90's
> had done a better job of staying in touch with what their
> audience was up to instead of laughing at what an easy gig
> it was to read liner cards and cash their 30k paychecks, no
> one would have ever imagined that they were unnecessary.
>
> Sure, corporate radio groups are cost cutters but if the
> jocks were hugely popular for their specific gifts and
> talents they wouldn't have been replaced.
>
BAB sucks everyday its like a 1970's class music reunion. "BAB plays the most....Burnt out old Crap, that other real rock stations won't touch.
 
> Did it ever occur to anyone that if the jocks of the 90's
> had done a better job of staying in touch with what their
> audience was up to instead of laughing at what an easy gig
> it was to read liner cards and cash their 30k paychecks, no
> one would have ever imagined that they were unnecessary.
>
> Sure, corporate radio groups are cost cutters but if the
> jocks were hugely popular for their specific gifts and
> talents they wouldn't have been replaced.
>

BAB air staff was the best in the 80's:

Bob Buchmann
Ralph Tortora
Gerry Martere
Rockin' Robyn Lane
and Fingers driving the Rock Van

although WBAB does deserve a big kudos for the work they did after 9/11. The station became a gathering place both on the air for people to express their feelings, and in their parking lot filling up truck after truck of supplies to send to Ground Zero. In that one week, they filled 5-years worth of "serving the community" obligation.
 
Re: Opie & Anthony on BAB

> > > Some of you may disagree with my comments, and that is
> > your
> > > right, but tell me this; when was the last time that
> Long
> > > Island (Nassau or Suffolk) had a show or a personality
> > that
> > > they really related too? Don’t answer with your name
> or
> >
> > > the name of your buddy that you want to plug in this
> > forum.
> > > Be honest. Is there someone now or recently that people
>
> > > relate to?
> > >
> > > Let’s make radio real again, who knows we could grab
> some
> > > the revenue we’ve been losing to print, internet and
> cable
> >
Right, blame the jocks for not speaking their minds. How assinine is that. Do you have a family to feed? Your boss tells yo to say something, believe me, you find a way to say it. I worked at RCN with Matt Mangas and at BAB with Bob Buchmann, and they were both great, I repeat, great programmers. They let the jocks be themselves as long as they got the message accross. But today, the bottome line is the suits have the final say. That's why I do it part time now. I'd love to see Matt and/or Bob buy a Long Island signal. Theyr'd be a line of us old timers running over each other with their "Rascles" to get in first!
 
Re: Opie & Anthony on BAB

> > > > Some of you may disagree with my comments, and that is
>
> > > your
> > > > right, but tell me this; when was the last time that
> > Long
> > > > Island (Nassau or Suffolk) had a show or a personality
>
> > > that
> > > > they really related too? Don’t answer with your
> name
> > or
> > >
> > > > the name of your buddy that you want to plug in this
> > > forum.
> > > > Be honest. Is there someone now or recently that
> people
> >
> > > > relate to?
> > > >
> > > > Let’s make radio real again, who knows we could grab
> > some
> > > > the revenue we’ve been losing to print, internet and
> > cable
> > >
> Right, blame the jocks for not speaking their minds. How
> assinine is that. Do you have a family to feed? Your boss
> tells yo to say something, believe me, you find a way to say
> it. I worked at RCN with Matt Mangas and at BAB with Bob
> Buchmann, and they were both great, I repeat, great
> programmers. They let the jocks be themselves as long as
> they got the message accross. But today, the bottome line is
> the suits have the final say. That's why I do it part time
> now. I'd love to see Matt and/or Bob buy a Long Island
> signal. Theyr'd be a line of us old timers running over each
> other with their "Rascles" to get in first!
> Kevin:

With all due respect to you and your posting, if you read my post in it's entirety you will see that I am not blaming the jocks. I am stating the obvious. An environment exists that is not conducive to creativity. An environment where automation has taken the fun out of the process. How can a jock get their message across, when that message is taped two days before?? I applaud your "suits vs. us" rebellion, but lets face it. The industry has changed. The reasons why you and I chose this as a career no longer exists.

I grew up during the Bob Buchmann reign. He was amazing! When people think WBAB, Bob's name is still so tightly tied to the legend of this station.

The Bone was an exciting radio station to listen to in 2003 & 2004 because the station had a personality. There are no more stations in the rock genre that exudes that enthusiastic presentation. I apologize to the jocks at BAB and RCN, but it's true. There is no street buzz for any Long Island radio station. Kids aren't sitting up at night listening to the radio. They are not hanging out on D.P.A. with their cars blasting Long Island radio. They are not sneaking off with a six pack of Molsens and a joint to listen to a radio station. Somehow we have lost that. That was one point I was trying to make in my posting. We are on the same page...really!
 
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