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Anyone think you're weird for DXing?

This is an interesting topic I thought I'd bring up. Ever since I was in middle school, I've always been interested in out-of-area radio stations. I'm from the Boston area, but when I was younger, for some reason, I always liked the Providence better. All of my friends disowned me because of it. They basically thought it was wrong to have this strong interest in out-of-area stations, because that way, you're not paying as much attention to the content of what's around here. IF you know what I mean. I don't exactly agree with that, but that's what they think. I never really understood why people thought that way.

So, has anyone ever given any of you that kind of feedback for DXing?
 
When I was in 4th grade 1970-1971, I remember being berated in gym class by other students AND the teacher for not
caring about sports or being any good at them. "He likes RADIO!"
Of course I was listening to signals from all over the US and Canada as clear channels were still respected.

I had an AM/FM Ross portable in a leatherette case about the size of a fat bible that I got for Christmas 1968.
One of the few radios I ever lost/gave up or don't know what happened to.

About that time I began angling for a Ross 6-band with LW, AM BC, MW (1.6 -4.8) SW 5mhz to 22 in 2 bands and FM.
I still have it.
My brother thought I was weird.

Today I am amazed to find several radio professionals here regularly advancing the idea that dxing is irrelevant or even wrong.
I don't even recognize the distinction. Signals come in, I listen if I want to and enjoy the content.
This is just what radio does.
Why would anyone want to limit their choices? If another town has "your" station, and you CAN listen, whose fault is it
that the local market is not serving you well? Certainly not yours.
 
More than once I've endured the question, "...why do you listen to a station you can't even hear?" from my parents, and for about 20 years, from my wife.

To keep the peace, I only do DX in the car when I'm alone.

One thing DXing trained me to do was to focus my attention on minute details, screening out distractions like a noisy radio channel. It's something I still do today, much to the frustration of my wife when I'm surfing on the web and she asks me to take out the garbage. :)

Later....
Matt Smith
WGSR-TV
 
ssetta said:
This is an interesting topic I thought I'd bring up. Ever since I was in middle school, I've always been interested in out-of-area radio stations. I'm from the Boston area, but when I was younger, for some reason, I always liked the Providence better. All of my friends disowned me because of it. They basically thought it was wrong to have this strong interest in out-of-area stations, because that way, you're not paying as much attention to the content of what's around here. IF you know what I mean. I don't exactly agree with that, but that's what they think. I never really understood why people thought that way.

So, has anyone ever given any of you that kind of feedback for DXing?

When I was at junior college, one of the courses I had to take was speech. We had to do several speeches during the quarter, and one of those involved picking an unusual or interesting hobby we had and present it to the class (sort of like "Show and Tell" for adults I suppose, lol). After our presentation, we had to take questions from the "audience" about our particular hobby.

I decided to talk about DXing for my speech because it was "different" and "unusual" (at least to most of them I figured), so why not? I was pondering it, though a day or so before the speech, wondering whether I should change my hobby because they'll all probably think I'm nuts, lol. I decided to go through with it, and my speech consisted of me telling the class about how I listen to distant radio stations and then try to pinpoint their locations. I discussed some of the different forms of DX without going into any great detail and by what means I would use to identify the stations (using call letters, locations mentioned during commercials, etc). I was really surprised because the class seemed very receptive to it, and I had several people ask me questions afterward. I even had some tell me after the class was over they thought it was really interesting, and that I did a good job on the speech. One of those was a girl I knew previously who attended the same high school I did. She told me she was really amazed I was interested in radio, and she would have never thought that because I was so quiet in high school. :)


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I think I have only met 3 other people personally who are into DXing as much as I am. I met one person through this board, another person is the chief engineer of my college station, and the other is an engineer/ham at a Fox TV station in the midwest that's easily picked up on e-skip all over the country. I remember having a conversation about propagation modes with someone else, there were 2 non-DXers there too, and the others thought that we were "talking in code" because normal people don't understand what e-skip and tropo means.

There was one time I was driving with friends, and e-skip suddenly took over the station we were listening to. For the rest of the trip, I turned up the radio and "fiddled with the dial" and tried to identify as many stations as possible. My friends thought it was interesting to hear stations from 1000 miles away.
 
I find it amazing that anyone would find DXing to be “wrong”. It may not for everyone, but neither is Opera or Country or Jazz. And they are certainly not "wrong". Well, maybe Opera!

I remember spending hours at night with my big box radio, with a miraculous fine tuning dial in the back, listening to KMOX, WOWO, CHUM, CKLW, WLS, WABC (& several other stations out of New York).
I was amazed by Robert W Morgan, Jean Shepherd, Dan Ingram, Tommy Shannon out of Detroit and countless other Jocks with scarry talent.

I was lucky enough to be here in Buffalo where I could tune in locally to WKBW (50k @ 1520), and still be able to listen in when I landed at WPGC in Washington.

If it weren’t for DXing I might not have ruined my life and gotten into radio at all.
 
I have to give you an overwhelming YES to this question.

My interest in what I later knew as DX'ing started in 1991 when I was the tender age of 9 years old. Our local CHR station (103.3) still played hair bands and arena rock from the 1980's and I knew through my peers, and limited outside influence (Parents didn't have cable) that there was something else going on in the CHR world. I finally found a station that catered to the 'current' state of pop music. 97.3 WMEE in Fort Wayne. My dad noticed I was listening to WMEE, which was his favorite station when he grew up in Fort Wayne. He thought it was cool that I discovered a part of his youth. Unfortunately, the support for the hobby seemed to be short-lived.

My classmates thought I was weird because I didn't like our local stations. I would suggest that they try some other station and follow up by asking 'Does that come in at your house?' which was usually followed by a weird look and some less-than-desirable comments as they walked off with their group. Some of my 5th and 6th grade journal entries were based on local radio happenings while others presumably wrote about playing outside, new bikes and the sort. The english teachers would write lengthy comments about most of my entries but there was never any more than 'cool!' about the radio ones. When I reached my teen years I learned to keep my 'weird' hobby to myself, but by now, long car rides with the parents were prime opportunities to hear what else was out there. This meant asking them to change the station every two miles and sometimes listening to nothing but static for another five miles after that. Finally, my mom would change the station (ironically, back to 103.3) and tell me that she wasn't changing the station for the rest of the drive.

In my later teens and early 20's, I really got back into the hobby after a few years away from it. Now I had discovered tropospheric enhancement and the most exciting DX of all, sporadic E. Now, the support from my parents and peers was seemingly at an all-time low. They didn't understand why I found it amusing to hear radio stations from Florida. Even my brother (who is now also a DX'er) and his girlfriend suggested something was wrong with me. I thought of it as a way to see what else was out there, as I was not well-traveled as a youth. Most importantly, I thought of it was a good hobby that was keeping me out of trouble. By this time, most of my peers were into drinking, smoking pot and even going to prison. In 2002, I started logging my new stations. This was probably the breaking point for my mom and I. She straight up suggested that I should change my ways and start 'partying like a normal 20 year old'. I told her I enjoyed doing it and even asked her if she wanted me to be like "Steve", a friend of the family who had just been locked up for drugs. After that, she seemed to support my hobby and all of the bad words were gone.

In 2008, i'm 26 years old and I still take at least 30 minutes to DX. I've been logging for six years now. I have lost friends because of it, but other friends don't ask about it so I don't preach to them. The friends who do know about it seem okay with it. I figure if the other friends ask me about the big 25 foot tall antenna tower and the ancient Realistic STA-530 in my corner then i'll let them know. If they don't like it, oh well.
 
Pretty much everyone. When I was growing up I also wasn't that interested in sports. I made the mistake of telling people I was listening to shortwave stations. I will tell you my listening to tropical band Spanis hspeakers made me able to actually speak and understand Spanish. In adulthood, friends and girlfriends tolerate me.
 
Same here... When I lived at my dad's old house (with the big roof antenna where I snagged LOTS of Es and Tropo), I printed labels and positioned them all over the antenna rotor control-box. Facing east was 16-22-28-34-46-57-69 (South Bend), north in line with Chicago 4-6-10-12-18-24-30-36-49-58-65 (Milwaukee/Racine), south 2-3-10-12-15-17-23-27-38-55-68 (Champaign/Decatur/Terre Haute), and many more. These were regular tropo catches, and could sometimes be depended on if my local Chicago stations were getting whomped on with interference.

Anyone who came over and noticed the number strips would ask what they were. If conditions were right, I could spin the antenna around and they would say something like, "Okay, that station says it's from Indianapolis which is pretty wild, but now I *really* think you're strange!" Ha ha! But, a lot of people today have no clue what all this "reception and skip stuff" is all about. I recently was with someone whose cell phone was roaming where it normally never does. I explained to him that it was strong tropo from the neighboring cell system to the south, where some storms were moving through. I tried to bet him $10 that when we got back to my house, I would be able to get 15 WICD Champaign, Fox43 WYZZ Bloomington and maybe even 55 WRSP Decatur/Springfield on a handheld TV. He knew I was probably right and wouldn't take the bet, and I would have won if he did. :)
 
People didn't understand why I DXed until I learned how to relate it to something they could understand.

Most hobbies involve collecting (stamps, coins, baseball cards, etc.) with the collector getting excited about the rarest ones in their collection. My hobby is collecting stations, and, yes, I get excited about a really rare catch. At that point, they would say, "Oh, yeah. Now, I know what you mean."

It didn't make them any more interested, but I'm not into stamps, either. :D
 
When I was growing up I also wasn't that interested in sports.

I was actually interested in sports when I was younger and I still am. I like to follow baseball, especially the Detroit Tigers. I get into football and basketball, but not as much as I used to. I don't get into the fantasy leagues and that kind of stuff though. Sports would be my hobby that I can actually tell people about. After all, knowing about teams, their key players and the name of their radio network can really help you confirm stations that otherwise would be unid's during tropo and e-skip.

I'm kind of a sucker for things like statistics, especially in sports. So it's no surprise that I keep averages of my DX catches (number of new logs per month, average mileage, most active frequencies) I know my stats mean nothing to other people, but as long as I enjoy doing it that's all I need.
 
I never had anyone say anything directly to me about it. Maybe there were times some wondered why I was running wire out a window or tossing it through the trees, etc. I know that when I was living in a dorm in a remote college there may have been a few thinking that I was crazy when they saw me doing that. However, it may have been those same people who were among those coming into my dorm room to listen to a heavyweight fight from a station some 175 miles away or getting information about an event that had just taken place and the news was coming in over the radio. It always made me feel that the final product is what's important. It overcomes any preliminary thoughts of those who don't really understand.
 
All I can say is, Wow. I never expected to get this many replies. I have to say I am very thankful to know of a place where it's okay to talk about this. There is one thing about me that I don't think I've ever told anyone. I actually have something called Asperger's Syndrome. It's basically a mild form of autism, and I have certain strengths and weaknesses, and I tend to focus on certain things. A lot of people with AS tend to have interests that aren't necessarily harmful, but they're odd. I have a lot of other interests that people think are weird. Once again, everybody thought that I was weird because of it, and nobody could understand it. And get this, when I was in 6th grade, I actually wanted to move to another town that got the Providence stations on cable, because I liked them better. But then, we actually got an antenna put in the attic. My parents thought it was crazy, since we had cable. But this way, I was able to receive some of the Providence stations. And for a little bit of time, I actually didn't even want cable TV, just so that I could DX. And I have to say that is one of the things I am really going to miss after 2/17/09. I don't know if there is any DX with digital TV.
 
Absolutely! Everybody thought I was wierd. That is, until they heard much better music on the stations. In Midland, TX, there was quite a bit of a fan club for KOMA, Oklahoma City. Not exactly challenging DX, but practically everybody did it at night, our local top 40 was so bad. When you think about it - it was the closest 50kW blowtorch that actually played top-40. The big Dallas top-40 may have run 50 kW day, but was virtually unreceivable. We all know how Houston got the shaft when 50 kW clears were assigned, and its top-40 - KILT 610, was also almost unreceivable. The San Antonio top-40 was KTSA 550 - guess where Midland's top-40 was located? 550. So there were signals from three major cities totally unreceivable in Midland. Which left Oklahoma City. Mind you - the average teenager tuning around the dial didn't even know what the term "DX" meant. They were tuning around for content. The big Chicago top-40 - WLS - was just far enough away that powerline noise and other factors made it too weak to be reliably caught, although I hear that suburban Dallas teenagers had a much better time with WLS after KLIF went to its bizzare twelve tower nighttime pattern. That and probably KOMA.

I've put some of this on my own web site: http://www.mindspring.com/~brucec/bg.htm

I was looked upon as pretty wierd when I was growing up. I never got the girls - football reigned supreme in the serengetti plateau consisting of prides of lions - I mean the Midland high schools made up of tribes of humans, the fittest males getting the females being the football steroid bodies. In that redneck environment, nerds like myself didn't stand a chance finding a mate. Of course those football morons now still live in Midland, are bald, weigh 300 pounds, beat their wives, and burp the pledge of allegiance while guzzling their beer and watching football. I got a million in the bank. NERDS RULE!!!
 
Note to 'passtheword' : I had no problem in high school giving a speech before the class about my hobby, DX. What's a bit unusual is that I was in a class for students who had speech impediments, for 7 terms out of 8.

What helped through the social dramas outside of school, guys and gals, was that there were three of us in the group who were DXers. Then one of the gals caught Joey Reynolds on WKBW while she was vacationing in upstate New York. She didn't exactly run to Liberty Avenue to buy an antenna, but she was caught up in the transistor radio magic for a while.

A few decades later, a girl I was dating (the earphones always make girls sigh) made it a point to rub in that she had gotten WAVY-TV 10 from Norfolk via trope, on Long Island, while I hadn't yet.

Dunno about going as far as people considering it 'weird', though ... I've seen those normal people get real caught up in trope on TV and FM, and even straightforward car radio DX. Oddly, the gals seem more tolerant than the guys, though.

Or at least they *did*, back when there was a lot more to listen to on the radio.
 
i hanent had any major problems. a few of my friends think im nuts, but they're cool with it. i havent lost anyone because of it. i dont see what the big deal is.... if someone doesnt like you because you play with the radio, that just makes them a dumbass.

im not really into sports, but im not a loser. maybe things are different now. but just about everyone has that one "distant of Fringe" station that they like that comes in like a local. weather they know it or not. over here in levittown pa, we have 105.7 and 106.5 out of the Jersey Shore that are always crystal clea. people listen to those and dont even know that they are considered distant.

hell, the radio is very interesting, any one who has a problem with it can **** off, because im sure they have something that i think is f'in stupid. the very few people who have ever thought i was weird for my radio obsession (never any friends who did this) are too busy smoking their pot.
 
People think it's weird, but kind of amusing too. I've never lost a friend because I DX, nor can I imagine such a thing happening.

The fishing analogy is the best way to explain the appeal to DX, since fishing is very popular around here. You scan the bands and listen to weak stations hoping it will be something distant, maybe really distant, just as lower your bait into the water hoping that something good will bite, maybe even a record-size bass. Sometimes you eat the fish, but a lot of the time you just release it, similar to how the main objective in DXing is "nabbing" the station, though occasionally there might be interesting content as well.
 
I first discovered DXing as a kid. Of course, back then I had never heard the term "DXing", so I just thought of it as tuning in distant radio and TV stations. Anyway, my mother found my interest in this to be incredibly stupid, and often made it a point to say so. I didn't have many friends growing up, so I didn't tell anyone else about this seemingly pointless hobby.

I would often hear, "Put it on a station!" if I had the radio or TV tuned to a channel that was not normally used in our area. I was even told that the TV would burn out if I left it on a staticky station. I was pretty much made to feel like I was the only one interested in this sort of thing, and that there was something wrong with me as a result.

Anyway, years later, I found the term "DXing" on the net one day, and found out that not only am I not the only one interested in this sort of thing, but there's actually a term for it, and other people who really go all out, even going as far as having elaborate and expensive antenna setups, to make the most out of their hobby! (Yeah, it was kind of nice to be able to rub that in my mother's face for making me feel like an idiot for being interested in something that she thought of as pointless, and to prove that I'm not the only one on the face of the earth to ever be interested in such a thing!)

Even better to find a place online (like this board) to discuss this hobby with others who are into the same thing.
 
I'm well beyond the point in life where I give a rats *** if anybody thinks I'm weird, hell I KNOW I am ;D Haven't ever really talked about it to that many people, ex-wife seemed to have a marginal interest in it, but we never pursued it much.

WWL is the one that got me started, at about age 12. Used to like those all-night trucker oriented country music shows on there, along with WSM, WBAP, WRVA, WLW, and whatever else I could tune in. CBW Winnipeg was another early fascination, as we have a semi-local on 990
 
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