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TransmitterMan
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Anyone know if a Aphex 323a in-front of an Orban 8100A with XT2 will add any more punch? Thanks.
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> Anyone know if a Aphex 323a in-front of an Orban 8100A with
> XT2 will add any more punch? Thanks.
> Best setup in front of an 8100a would be Texars or Gentners prizms ,if you can find a pair.you'd have plenty of punch there...or sell the whole rig and get a Omnia 3FMT or the DSP_X box...either will get the job done...never been a fan of the XT, been there done that.....other choice, just run the compellor in front of the 8100a and do away with the XT all together, ANOTHER Orban rush to market when the saw lots of stations using the texars and Gentners..
> XT2 will add any more punch? Thanks.
> Best setup in front of an 8100a would be Texars or Gentners prizms ,if you can find a pair.you'd have plenty of punch there...or sell the whole rig and get a Omnia 3FMT or the DSP_X box...either will get the job done...never been a fan of the XT, been there done that.....other choice, just run the compellor in front of the 8100a and do away with the XT all together, ANOTHER Orban rush to market when the saw lots of stations using the texars and Gentners..
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RadioDoc
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> > Anyone know if a Aphex 323a in-front of an Orban 8100A
> with
> > XT2 will add any more punch? Thanks.
> > Best setup in front of an 8100a would be Texars or
> Gentners prizms ,if you can find a pair.you'd have plenty
> of punch there...or sell the whole rig and get a Omnia 3FMT
> or the DSP_X box...either will get the job done...never been
> a fan of the XT, been there done that.....other choice, just
> run the compellor in front of the 8100a and do away with the
> XT all together, ANOTHER Orban rush to market when the saw
> lots of stations using the texars and Gentners..
>
The XT2 is a great sounding box. With or without anything in front...<P ID="signature">______________
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> with
> > XT2 will add any more punch? Thanks.
> > Best setup in front of an 8100a would be Texars or
> Gentners prizms ,if you can find a pair.you'd have plenty
> of punch there...or sell the whole rig and get a Omnia 3FMT
> or the DSP_X box...either will get the job done...never been
> a fan of the XT, been there done that.....other choice, just
> run the compellor in front of the 8100a and do away with the
> XT all together, ANOTHER Orban rush to market when the saw
> lots of stations using the texars and Gentners..
>
The XT2 is a great sounding box. With or without anything in front...<P ID="signature">______________
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CW
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> > Anyone know if a Aphex 323a in-front of an Orban 8100A
> with
> > XT2 will add any more punch? Thanks.
> > Best setup in front of an 8100a would be Texars or
> Gentners prizms ,if you can find a pair.you'd have plenty
> of punch there...or sell the whole rig and get a Omnia 3FMT
> or the DSP_X box...either will get the job done...never been
> a fan of the XT, been there done that.....other choice, just
> run the compellor in front of the 8100a and do away with the
> XT all together, ANOTHER Orban rush to market when the saw
> lots of stations using the texars and Gentners..
>
Ahh the Prizms...the only processing gear that turns symbals into what sounds like trashcans...I removed mine as soon as I could (they were ahead of the 8200! EGADS!).....An 8100A with the XT chassis is best for that processor...the XT gives you 5 band AGC...better than a Compellor or anything else...You might want to look for the aftermarket Card 5 changes for the 8100...but the XT is hard to beat...
> with
> > XT2 will add any more punch? Thanks.
> > Best setup in front of an 8100a would be Texars or
> Gentners prizms ,if you can find a pair.you'd have plenty
> of punch there...or sell the whole rig and get a Omnia 3FMT
> or the DSP_X box...either will get the job done...never been
> a fan of the XT, been there done that.....other choice, just
> run the compellor in front of the 8100a and do away with the
> XT all together, ANOTHER Orban rush to market when the saw
> lots of stations using the texars and Gentners..
>
Ahh the Prizms...the only processing gear that turns symbals into what sounds like trashcans...I removed mine as soon as I could (they were ahead of the 8200! EGADS!).....An 8100A with the XT chassis is best for that processor...the XT gives you 5 band AGC...better than a Compellor or anything else...You might want to look for the aftermarket Card 5 changes for the 8100...but the XT is hard to beat...
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listner2
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> > > Anyone know if a Aphex 323a in-front of an Orban 8100A
> > with
> > > XT2 will add any more punch? Thanks.
> > > Best setup in front of an 8100a would be Texars or
> > Gentners prizms ,if you can find a pair.you'd have plenty
>
> > of punch there...or sell the whole rig and get a Omnia
> 3FMT
> > or the DSP_X box...either will get the job done...never
> been
> > a fan of the XT, been there done that.....other choice,
> just
> > run the compellor in front of the 8100a and do away with
> the
> > XT all together, ANOTHER Orban rush to market when the
> saw
> > lots of stations using the texars and Gentners..
> >
>
> The XT2 is a great sounding box. With or without anything
> in front...
>
I Agree! 8100 with the XT2 is almost as good as it gets. The Prisms help, but the XT2 keeps things more consistant. Release times on the Prisms are too slow. I wouldn't put anything in front of your 8100/XT2. Set the release time all the way to fast. Check the quality of your audio before the processor. If you are using MP2 files, make sure the files are 256kb or higher bitrate. Anything lower is unacceptable and the 8100/XT2 will expose the shortcomings. And make sure your music was recorded direcet to to the audio storage system with no other audio compression (audio or data). Someone I knew used to compress all the music in cool edit pro at like 20:1 before he dumped it into the automation. Of course it sounded like crap.
> > with
> > > XT2 will add any more punch? Thanks.
> > > Best setup in front of an 8100a would be Texars or
> > Gentners prizms ,if you can find a pair.you'd have plenty
>
> > of punch there...or sell the whole rig and get a Omnia
> 3FMT
> > or the DSP_X box...either will get the job done...never
> been
> > a fan of the XT, been there done that.....other choice,
> just
> > run the compellor in front of the 8100a and do away with
> the
> > XT all together, ANOTHER Orban rush to market when the
> saw
> > lots of stations using the texars and Gentners..
> >
>
> The XT2 is a great sounding box. With or without anything
> in front...
>
I Agree! 8100 with the XT2 is almost as good as it gets. The Prisms help, but the XT2 keeps things more consistant. Release times on the Prisms are too slow. I wouldn't put anything in front of your 8100/XT2. Set the release time all the way to fast. Check the quality of your audio before the processor. If you are using MP2 files, make sure the files are 256kb or higher bitrate. Anything lower is unacceptable and the 8100/XT2 will expose the shortcomings. And make sure your music was recorded direcet to to the audio storage system with no other audio compression (audio or data). Someone I knew used to compress all the music in cool edit pro at like 20:1 before he dumped it into the automation. Of course it sounded like crap.
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TransmitterMan
Guest
I need something on the studio end, forgot to mention that. I was told the Aphex 323a would do well, then on the TX end the Orban 8100/XT2. We still have the old 15k audio circuits for stereo.
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RadioDoc
Guest
> I need something on the studio end, forgot to mention that.
> I was told the Aphex 323a would do well, then on the TX end
> the Orban 8100/XT2. We still have the old 15k audio circuits
> for stereo.
>
Ahh. Then yes, the 323a will serve you well! I probably wouldn't use the Aural Exciter feature, but you really should have some sort of protection processing in front of that STL, and Compellors to a great job with that. Just don't work the compellor too hard, and it will work well!<P ID="signature">______________
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> I was told the Aphex 323a would do well, then on the TX end
> the Orban 8100/XT2. We still have the old 15k audio circuits
> for stereo.
>
Ahh. Then yes, the 323a will serve you well! I probably wouldn't use the Aural Exciter feature, but you really should have some sort of protection processing in front of that STL, and Compellors to a great job with that. Just don't work the compellor too hard, and it will work well!<P ID="signature">______________
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TransmitterMan
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Do you have any good settings for the 8100/XT2? I like the processing heavy for the urban music we play.
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westlife
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> I need something on the studio end, forgot to mention that.
> I was told the Aphex 323a would do well, then on the TX end
> the Orban 8100/XT2. We still have the old 15k audio circuits
> for stereo.
You should be using the Aphex Compellor for this application (studio AGC), not the 323A. And if you have a choice, go for the Compellor 320 model. I'm not really fond of the Compellor's wideband design, as I highly prefer a true multiband AGC, but the newer 320 model at least tries to make up for some of the shortcomings of its wideband design by contouring the threshold of its processing to make it less reactive to strong bass content.
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> I was told the Aphex 323a would do well, then on the TX end
> the Orban 8100/XT2. We still have the old 15k audio circuits
> for stereo.
You should be using the Aphex Compellor for this application (studio AGC), not the 323A. And if you have a choice, go for the Compellor 320 model. I'm not really fond of the Compellor's wideband design, as I highly prefer a true multiband AGC, but the newer 320 model at least tries to make up for some of the shortcomings of its wideband design by contouring the threshold of its processing to make it less reactive to strong bass content.
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RadioDoc
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Hold on!
> Do you have any good settings for the 8100/XT2? I like the
> processing heavy for the urban music we play.
>
I just looked up the 323a again...the one I see online is mono. You have a stereo version, right?
Also, do you already have this box? As others have posted, the straight compellor works the best, but if you're talking about re-using equipment you already have, it will work (if it's stereo).<P ID="signature">______________
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> Do you have any good settings for the 8100/XT2? I like the
> processing heavy for the urban music we play.
>
I just looked up the 323a again...the one I see online is mono. You have a stereo version, right?
Also, do you already have this box? As others have posted, the straight compellor works the best, but if you're talking about re-using equipment you already have, it will work (if it's stereo).<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
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TransmitterMan
Guest
Re: Hold on!
Sorry, I have 2 323A and one 320a. I am looking for settings for the 8100/xt2. The aphex will be at the studio end. Looking for a heavy processed sound for Urban music.
Thanks
Sorry, I have 2 323A and one 320a. I am looking for settings for the 8100/xt2. The aphex will be at the studio end. Looking for a heavy processed sound for Urban music.
Thanks
> I need something on the studio end, forgot to mention that.
> I was told the Aphex 323a would do well, then on the TX end
> the Orban 8100/XT2. We still have the old 15k audio circuits
> for stereo.
Compellor being a wideband device has a few compromises... While I haven't tried it myself (yet) I've heard many, many good comments about TranslanTech's Ariane (http://www.translantech.com/products.htm). It's a 4-band, window-type, matrix leveler and apparently is very transparent while providing consistent levels to subsequent processors. I hear lots of people are using it in front of Omnia-6... I would recommend you try it, before you jump on the Compellor wagon. There's a digital version now as well.
And I would agree with others - 8100/XT2 is in my opinion also, one of the best processors ever!
Regards,
Goran Tomas
> I was told the Aphex 323a would do well, then on the TX end
> the Orban 8100/XT2. We still have the old 15k audio circuits
> for stereo.
Compellor being a wideband device has a few compromises... While I haven't tried it myself (yet) I've heard many, many good comments about TranslanTech's Ariane (http://www.translantech.com/products.htm). It's a 4-band, window-type, matrix leveler and apparently is very transparent while providing consistent levels to subsequent processors. I hear lots of people are using it in front of Omnia-6... I would recommend you try it, before you jump on the Compellor wagon. There's a digital version now as well.
And I would agree with others - 8100/XT2 is in my opinion also, one of the best processors ever!
Regards,
Goran Tomas
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