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Apple, iBiquity Digital, iTunes tagging for HD

This could only work for people who can accept paying for nothing.
A file is not owning a recording of a performance, and if I'm paying for a copyrighted work, I expect something tangible.
When the tag button can result in a physical object with the recording on it arriving at my house, this will be worth something.
 
It’s interesting to note that the RIAA is pushing hard to collect royalties on a performance basis from radio stations, as they do for Satellite and Internet Radio. On the other hand these same people want the radio industry to help sell their music by tagging songs for automatic download. Obviously, they must acknowledge that radio is still a very effective - probably the most effective - tool for presenting new music to the public.

Ironic, isn’t it? It sounds to me like the lawyers and accountants will win big time…..
 
I have to chuckle a bit at all the news releases concerning this iTunes/iPod/HD Radio docking solution posted on the radio news boards as they seem to be treating this announcement as if it were the second coming.

"HD Radio's acceptance by consumers may have stalled but now we're really going to see it take off."

But perhaps a more sober assessment comes from Mark Ramsey:

"HD radio has been reduced to being a storefront for iTunes? So I listen to my HD radio, tag the songs I like, download them to my iPod, and listen to my iPod rather than my HD radio, right?"

Or as vsa posted, this could have much larger implications should the iTunes Store be partnered with webcasters.

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dbdigital said:
...this could have much larger implications should the iTunes Store be partnered with webcasters.

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After all, if you are streaming a song wirelessly on your iPod Touch, clicking a "buy" button on your iPod's screen would let you download your purchase immediately. No dock or HD radio neccessary. It can be enabled by Apple at any time. The only question is "when."

Apple and HD radio haven't joined any forces. The iTunes music store is the winner here. HD radio is hoping some of the iPod's popularity will rub off on HD radio.
 
Tom Wells said:
This could only work for people who can accept paying for nothing.
A file is not owning a recording of a performance, and if I'm paying for a copyrighted work, I expect something tangible.
When the tag button can result in a physical object with the recording on it arriving at my house, this will be worth something.
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Tom, have you ever purchased and dowloaded software? Music is no different.

Downloadable music is God's gift to the music industry. And record companies haven't figured out how to take advantage of this gift. Instead, they view it as a tragedy because it's easy to steal. Funny. Record company executives flirt with thoughts of an all-you-can-eat subscription model that would wishfully bring in a ton of money, but refuse to lower the purchase price of music to do the same thing.
 
No, if I purchase software, I buy it on a CD. Unless the seller is going to keep a copy of a sales agreement, and agree to redistribute the software (or data) when it gets corrupted or the disc crashes, I won't pay for downloads.

I accept the loss of data, software or music on media I have mishandled or lost.
I will not support a sales model that relies on eliminating my access to a tangible copy.
 
Tom Wells said:
...I will not support a sales model that relies on eliminating my access to a tangible copy.
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That's why most computers have a CD/DVD burner. Do you really need the packaging? I assume then that you don't take advantage of software patches and bug-fixes, and don't allow downloadable daily updates to any anti-virus software you may be using. Sending you a daily CD in the mail would get very costly and would delay the benefits.

Do you also forgo accepting or using checks in place of actual cash?
 
Software updates are easily obtained for free online, and this model works.

I am very much a cash-based person, while I use credit and accept checks.

I daily deal with tech modern and old, but choose old tech for so many things.

I just need music to be on something I can expect to endure. I have cylinders, 78s, 45s, LPs, R-Rs, cassettes of

all ages. No matter how bad they've gotten, I've been able to dub fine copies from them to enjoy on other,

newer media, most lately a music server running zara for my part 15 when I am not picking tunes at home.

I know exactly how discs crash, how often, and do not accept the ultimate demise of disc data as my only copy

of copyrighted music. Yes, I will begin archiving, etc, but I only accepted CDs for home use about 5 years ago,

when inexpensive home audio stand-alone CD burners became available. I don't expect CDs to survive.

The newer ram-based players will kill them, as if they needed anything to help their extreme handling vulnerability.

As such, I am using the CD burner in real-time audio production from discs to then load to the automation system.

But see, I still drive a 42 year old car, and the part 15 transmitter (ref below) only has 1 solid state part.

It's a full-wave bridge off the heater circuit to make DC for the CARBON MIKE input.

I drag my heels on technology when I sees fit.
 
Let me see if I understand this contraption: First you need an HD radio with an iPod dock, then you need a station actually broadcasting in HD, then you need them to be encoding the data for the music, then you need to have their proprietary iTunes software. Then if all that works, iTunes needs to actually be selling the song.

So if you tag a Beatles song, you're s.o.l.

If your local station doesn't encode, you're s.o.l.

If you don't have an HD radio with iPod dock, you're s.o.l.

It sounds like such a great idea, but there are a lot of iffy pieces that must fall into place for this to work.
 
The Beatles are coming (to downloadable services).

I'm not an Itunes fan. I prefer my music open, and unlocked. There ARE ways to get it that way from subscription services, Tom. There's a piece of software called "Replay Music" that will convert anything you play in (insert software here...Yahoo, Rhapsody, Napster, Urge...wait...they're goin' out of business) unencrypted mp3 format (or .wav), and automatically tag it. Illegal of course. And completely immoral of me to even point out that it exists. Sorry ;)
 
There's nothing wrong in pointing out these tools that exist to circumvent DRM. Until digitally compressed downloadable music became popular, the attitude has been "consumer's choice". Consumers buy a VHS tape or a CD and are allowed to make personal backup copies, or copies to play elsewhere while the original is locked up.

Now, with "Fair Play" and its ilk, the record companies have complete and utter control over the songs you pay good money for, and that ain't right. I should be allowed to play that music on any mp3 player, not just an Ipod. Or a minidisc player, or a dat tape or whatever.

Ironically, it's sooo easy to make an analogue copy, yet they seem to ignore that avenue of copying. In fact, for some reason my sound card on my computer allows me to re-record it's own output! Gosh, how long until they find a way to lock of analogue duplication? ???
 
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