Are They Afraid of the Word "Conservative?"

[Radio_Realist]

"People are posting multiple threads on single topics and there's this guy talking about pet rocks, political theory, aromatherapy candles, and large breasted women in bikinis, and I get busted for using a non-profane word to tell the guy to please keep quiet."

That's the difference between keeping things on topic, and doing what you've done. Illustrative examples to make a valid point about marketing radio programming is on-topic, even if the illustrative examples are not about radio. Radio talk show host, at least the good ones, use that practice quite often.

On the other hand, starting a thread digression then getting into high dudgeon because someone calls you on it is much harder to justify.

 

[kaufcom]

"People are posting multiple threads on single topics and there's this guy talking about pet rocks, political theory, aromatherapy candles, and large breasted women in bikinis, and I get busted for using a non-profane word to tell the guy to please keep quiet."

That's the difference between keeping things on topic, and doing what you've done. Illustrative examples to make a valid point about marketing radio programming is on-topic, even if the illustrative examples are not about radio. Radio talk show host, at least the good ones, use that practice quite often.

On the other hand, starting a thread digression then getting into high dudgeon because someone calls you on it is much harder to justify.

When have you called me into the high dudgeon? Please enlighten me.

 

[Radio_Realist]

"When have you called me into the high dudgeon?"

Are you sure you work in an industry in which the ability to speak English is one of the main qualifications? "High dudgeon" isn't a place, it's a state of mind. It's a form of anger with overtones of indignation. You displayed being in a state of "high dudgeon" when you posted a reply in here Yesterday at 03:58:52 pm.

No wonder you get upset when anyone discusses semantics. The discussions are always over your head.

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[kaufcom]

"When have you called me into the high dudgeon?"

Are you sure you work in an industry in which the ability to speak English is one of the main qualifications? "High dudgeon" isn't a place, it's a state of mind. It's a form of anger with overtones of indignation. You displayed being in a state of "high dudgeon" when you posted a reply in here Yesterday at 03:58:52 pm.

No wonder you get upset when anyone discusses semantics. The discussions are always over your head.

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You are one snide character. Since you don't know anything about radio business, you distinguish yourself by using semantics to score points. [EDIT]


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[Holland Cooke]

"Meanwhile, back on-topic..."

Radio-info.com members get first peek at the following, which will appear in the meaty October issue of the monthly newsletter that will also include my notes from this week's NAB Radio Show in Dallas:

TWO WORDS TALK HOSTS SHOULD AVOID: "CONSERVATIVE;" "LIBERAL."
Why: Even using these WORDS sends Homer and Marge Diarykeeper the clear and dangerous message that your program is about the same thing every day. Instead, raise issues people CARE ABOUT. Light-up-the-lines by inviting callers to share feelings and tell stories about issues with curb appeal to 40-something parents-of-school-children. These are the uber-consumers your advertisers are trying to reach; and a younger demographic than the median age of many News/Talk stations' audience.

Aloha from Block Island,
HC
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[kaufcom]

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Okay, I concede you win the "large word contest" although the expression you used "high dungeon" is not a word, but a phrase.

Now how about my point. You don't know jack about talk radio and just use your time on this board to use sarcasm and semantics to criticize other posters.

Identify any of the hundeds of posts you've made over the past month when you've identified a talk radio station, or the performance of a particular talk host. In fact, the only points that I've seen you make on this board is your obessesive banter on the "liberal" vs. "progressive" talk radio issue and the "brilliant" suggestion that talk radio is South is not as popular as it is in the rest of the country because syndicated talkers do not have Southern accents. You are not a "radio realist" but rather a "radio nihilist" There's a large word for you.

 

[Radio_Realist]

"Identify any of the hundeds of posts you've made over the past month when you've identified a talk radio station, or the performance of a particular talk host."

I'm not going to go to the trouble of searching to find the exact thread and posts wherein I discussed the boring performances of liberal talk hostess Lynn Cullen of WPTT radio in Pittsburgh, or the fact that here cohort at that station, Doug Hoerth is neither liberal nor progressive, not conservative for that matter. He's simply an old-school chat-show host recycling the same boring bits and jokes for more than a decade.

But, I will confess that I don't make specific mention of hosts or stations who are not heard on the radio in the city where I live, as I only listen to those stations (and the talk shows on those stations) that I can receive on my radio.

However, I will make informed and insightful comments on general principles which apply to radio, or the business of radio, even if I cannot mention the names of specific stations or hosts.

Come to think of it, I don't recall reading much in the way of specifics in your posts.

 

[954]

Okay, I concede you win the "large word contest" although the expression you used "high dungeon" is not a word, but a phrase.

There is nothing more fun than correcting someone else's indignant correction,
in hopes that everyone might learn some obscure but interesting bit of trivia.

From http://www.thefreedictionary.com/high+dudgeon:

high dudgeon - a feeling of intense indignation
(now used only in the phrase `in high dudgeon')

OK... I just thought of one thing more interesting. See boinking thread:
http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,47839.0.html

 

[keys2]

Seems to me what's been missed here is that conservative talk radio has never labeled itself conservative because the phenomenon has been, in a sense, the evolution of traditional news/talk radio. Liberal talk radio plunged in only recently and identified itself as "progressive talk” in an effort to make some noise and carve out a niche. Why would this mean that conservative talk radio must now label itself as such?

Freddie, no one’s afraid of the C word…..except you perhaps. Your original premise seems a little silly.

 

[fred flintstone]

Freddie, no one’s afraid of the C word…..except you perhaps. Your original premise seems a little silly.

Scott, what premise are you talking about and why is it "silly."
Calling names is hardly a persuasive rebuttal but typical of your multiple personality gutter posting.

Actually neo-cons have co-opted and debased the word "conservative."
If a man of integrity like Barry Goldwater could see what Nixon administration re-treads and religious fanatics have done in the name of a political philosophy with which he was once associated, he would weep.

 

[Radio_Realist]

Calling names is hardly a persuasive rebuttal but typical of your multiple personality gutter posting.

First, no one that I am aware of us using multiple names in here, though you have been accused of it. Second, being told that your premise seems a little silly is not "name calling". Name calling requires referring to someone by a name that isn't really the person's name, such as calling me or keys2 "Scott".

Though, to be honest, I do not know if keys2 is Scott or not. However, keys2, the Moderator, and Scott all do know that.

 

[keys2]

Freddie, no one’s afraid of the C word…..except you perhaps. Your original premise seems a little silly.

Scott, what premise are you talking about and why is it "silly."
Calling names is hardly a persuasive rebuttal but typical of your multiple personality gutter posting.

Actually neo-cons have co-opted and debased the word "conservative."
If a man of integrity like Barry Goldwater could see what Nixon administration re-treads and religious fanatics have done in the name of a political philosophy with which he was once associated, he would weep.

Careful. You're contempt and intolerance for conservatives is oozing again. And once again, rather than addressing my point, you make accusations and go off on some other tangent.

 

[keys2]

Btw, who is Scott?

 

[954]

Actually neo-cons have co-opted and debased the word "conservative."
If a man of integrity like Barry Goldwater could see what Nixon administration re-treads and religious fanatics have done in the name of a political philosophy with which he was once associated, he would weep.

I agree, somewhat. Are neo-cons = religious right? I didn't think so.

The religious right is who have redefined conservative to mean intolerant
theocrat.... people who don't believe in separation of church and state.
People who think government's purpose is to promote their religion.

The pig they nominated for the US Senate from Florida proves it.
I'm voting for the Dem this year.

 

[fred flintstone]

Careful. You're contempt and intolerance for conservatives is oozing again. And once again, rather than addressing my point, you make accusations and go off on some other tangent.

What I have contempt and intolerance for are arrogant, self-righteous, judgemental, uninformed, superficial, rigid people.
Can I help it if so many neo-cons, authoritarians and religious zealots display those qualities - and are even proud of them?

 

[954]

Careful. You're contempt and intolerance for conservatives is oozing again. And once again, rather than addressing my point, you make accusations and go off on some other tangent.

What I have contempt and intolerance for are arrogant, self-righteous, judgemental, uninformed, superficial, rigid people.
Can I help it if so many neo-cons, authoritarians and religious zealots display those qualities - and are even proud of them?

You're half right.

The left is so intolerant of diversity of opinion that it invented political correctness and speech codes.

The left also includes its share of arrogant, self-righteous, judgemental, uninformed, superficial, rigid people.

A pox on both your houses!

 

[keys2]

You're half right.

The left is so intolerant of diversity of opinion that it invented political correctness and speech codes.

The left also includes its share of arrogant, self-righteous, judgemental, uninformed, superficial, rigid people.

A pox on both your houses!

Good points. Liberals like Fred can be just as arrogant, self-righteous, and intolerant as they accuse conservatives of being. But because liberals have laid claim to the tolerance thing……and spent millions of dollars painting conservatives as intolerant……they assume themselves to be tolerant at all times and don’t recognize their own hypocrisy when they’re not.

 

[954]

You're half right.

The left is so intolerant of diversity of opinion that it invented political correctness and speech codes.

The left also includes its share of arrogant, self-righteous, judgemental, uninformed, superficial, rigid people.

A pox on both your houses!

Good points. Liberals like Fred can be just as arrogant, self-righteous, and intolerant as they accuse conservatives of being. But because liberals have laid claim to the tolerance thing……and spent millions of dollars painting conservatives as intolerant……they assume themselves to be tolerant at all times and don’t recognize their own hypocrisy when they’re not.

Right!

It's basically the same logic as when bigots of the Jesse-Sharpton-Farrakkkhan
stripe say "minorities can't be racist" -- even though they're the worst ones!