• Get involved.
    We want your input!
    Apply for Membership and join the conversations about everything related to broadcasting.

    After we receive your registration, a moderator will review it. After your registration is approved, you will be permitted to post.
    If you use a disposable or false email address, your registration will be rejected.

    After your membership is approved, please take a minute to tell us a little bit about yourself.
    https://www.radiodiscussions.com/forums/introduce-yourself.1088/

    Thanks in advance and have fun!
    RadioDiscussions Administrators

Are XM & Sirius Serious About Common Receiver?

Likki

Likki

- Inside Radio wonders if DC's XM and NYC's Sirius holding back on making a radio that can receive both satellite radio services. The Federal Communications Commission stuck an interoperability requirement into the two satrad licenses back in the 1990s - but apparently all they're legally required to do is create a design. They've spent $5 million to do that but the Media Access Project says they're trying to "stifle" competition.....

http://www.dcrtv.net/<P ID="signature">______________
TRUTH HURTS FEEL THE PAIN</P>
 
I can't wait for a dual sat. car radio so I could have BOTH XM and Sirius without now having to have one built-in and one the other service via a portable on the dash!!! Both companies should realize that a lot of people that are willing to pay for one service will have NO PROBLEM paying for two. THEN let the programming decide if the listener gets tired of one of the services enought to stop renewing. That would be the market place at work! I've been told because the Sirius IP bus is an older design the designers need to wait until both Sirius and XM have closer data buses so dual radios could be made. I was told it will be at least two more years! The aftermarket people don't see a big enough market to go to the expense of back-engineering a solution. Though many did engineer the iPOD after market solution because they saw a bigger market for it.


> - Inside Radio wonders if DC's XM and NYC's Sirius holding
> back on making a radio that can receive both satellite radio
> services. The Federal Communications Commission stuck an
> interoperability requirement into the two satrad licenses
> back in the 1990s - but apparently all they're legally
> required to do is create a design. They've spent $5 million
> to do that but the Media Access Project says they're trying
> to "stifle" competition.....
>
> http://www.dcrtv.net/
>
 
According to a story in the Toronto Globe & Mail, the companies have had an interoperable receiver designed for nearly a year. However, neither company wants to put it into production, probably because of the stock-price-killing "churn" such a receiver would produce (people changing subscriptions every few months as sports seasons change, as they get bored with a certain playlist, etc.). Additionally, manufacturers see no upside in producing such a unit; they'd rather produce proprietary hardware for one service or the other. So it seems that the design was done to get the FCC off their back, but nothing that makes switching services or subscribing to both any more convenient will ever be produced.

> I can't wait for a dual sat. car radio so I could have BOTH
> XM and Sirius without now having to have one built-in and
> one the other service via a portable on the dash!!! Both
> companies should realize that a lot of people that are
> willing to pay for one service will have NO PROBLEM paying
> for two. THEN let the programming decide if the listener
> gets tired of one of the services enought to stop renewing.
> That would be the market place at work! I've been told
> because the Sirius IP bus is an older design the designers
> need to wait until both Sirius and XM have closer data buses
> so dual radios could be made. I was told it will be at least
> two more years! The aftermarket people don't see a big
> enough market to go to the expense of back-engineering a
> solution. Though many did engineer the iPOD after market
> solution because they saw a bigger market for it.
>
>
> > - Inside Radio wonders if DC's XM and NYC's Sirius holding
>
> > back on making a radio that can receive both satellite
> radio
> > services. The Federal Communications Commission stuck an
> > interoperability requirement into the two satrad licenses
> > back in the 1990s - but apparently all they're legally
> > required to do is create a design. They've spent $5
> million
> > to do that but the Media Access Project says they're
> trying
> > to "stifle" competition.....
> >
> > http://www.dcrtv.net/
> >
>
 
You actually can have both (or at least your choice of one or the other) if you have a late-model Pioneer head unit with the IP Bus. They make tuner modules for both XM and Sirius. Not sure if they can both operate at the same time (maybe the newer models can handle it?), but it does offer the option of switching services while still having a direct connection with your radio (and not having to buy a new one).

Love that IP Bus...enabled me to use my 1999 (pre-XM) model Pioneer radio with their tuner box no problem.
 
I'm told that, yes, some head units can have one or the other sat. adapter, but the IP buses will NOT allow loop-thru, as it does with other external IP devices. The XM and Sirius buses aren't close enough to make this happen. You CAN plug in one service and then unplug, and use the other adapter. Not easy while driving!!! What is missing is the loop-thru allowing use of both services. Something to do with display data being very different. At least that what I was told at CES by an aftermarket engineer. They indicated their efforts will be going after iPOD adapters for now. They indicated the dual sat. car radios will be out in about two years. They say there are people asking for it but it is too small of a market. I think it would be a big market if someone would just made it.


> You actually can have both (or at least your choice of one
> or the other) if you have a late-model Pioneer head unit
> with the IP Bus. They make tuner modules for both XM and
> Sirius. Not sure if they can both operate at the same time
> (maybe the newer models can handle it?), but it does offer
> the option of switching services while still having a direct
> connection with your radio (and not having to buy a new
> one).
>
> Love that IP Bus...enabled me to use my 1999 (pre-XM) model
> Pioneer radio with their tuner box no problem.
>
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Ray22 on 04/11/06 01:33 AM.</FONT></P>
 
"The Who" had a song out, back in the sixties about that "Magic Bus" which included one line that describes me, today:
I want it, I want it, I want it, I want it ... (You can't have it!)
They said they would do it within five years. This is four. I expect it next year.
<P ID="signature">______________
Proud 2 B a pioneering satellite radio subs¢riber
Ai4i is always on the trailing edge of technology
______________</P>
 
Status
This thread has been closed due to inactivity. You can create a new thread to discuss this topic.


Back
Top Bottom