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Arnie's affiliates don't count

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mwebster

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If a tree falls in an empty forest does it make a sound?

Arnie has her fans on this board. I am one of them. But I checked. Out in the real world hardly anybody was listening to her. Check it yourself.

Arnie's three former affiliates are low power, small town, dollar a hollar stations. None of them showed up in the Arbitron numbers for either the Manchester (#187) or Portsmouth-Dover-Rochester (#113) markets in the past year.

WTPL, Arnie's current station, got a fractional 12+ AQH share in Manchester (nothing in Portsmouth).

In Concord (#169) this past year, Arnie's three former stations also got fractions. Her soon-to-be-former affiliate WTPL has gotten acey-ducey numbers in Concord.

Talk radio is not a strong performer in any of the New Hampshire markets. And Boston stations are getting better numbers than any of the local stations. The best performing NH talk station is Clear Channel's WGIR/WGIN/WGIP which mostly carries the "usual suspects" from CC's Premiere Radio. Besides, Arnie, no progressive talk radio registers in New Hampshire (including CC's Boston/Framingham PT stations).

It looks like Arnie's problem was economics not SUV's. She did not draw an audience. And one station ended up picking up the cost of her show. Maybe Arnie - as a professional politician - took a page from Brian Malloney's playbook and "re-framed" her departure to make it a cause celebre: She was driven out of radio by the eve-ill car dealers who want to foist SUV's on a gullible public who will no longer have Arnie to protect them. Note: It's Arnie who is doing the SUV spin, not the station.

Arnie did have some name recognition in New Hampshire and still failed to deliver. Why would any stations in larger markets - where she is unknown - want to take a chance on her, given this track record? Numbers weak to non-existant. Hard to sell to advertisers.

It's too bad. She is an excellent interviewer and does a good show. As a commercial talk radio manager, I'd be reluctant. But as a public radio station manager, I'd be very interested. New Hampshire, Vermont or Maine Public Radio (maybe all three) would be prime prospects. She can't sell cars but she might draw pledges. And if she does well regionally, maybe national distribution would follow ("Arnie Arnesen is made possible by a grant from the Honda Hybrid").
 
Arnie Without A Radio Country

> Note: It's Arnie who is doing the SUV spin, not the station.

Excellent point.

Look, even so, she had to have been aware that car dealers are a major radio ad category (perhaps the largest!), and surely heard those spots on her local flagship station. I assume, at any rate. Was she talking herself into a corner?

No, the problem is that the performance/revenue isn't there to keep her show on that one small market station, and the station manager even said that. I'm sure Arnie was aware of that fact as well, so perhaps the "FUV" thing was her way of pulling the rip cord herself.

And you're likely correct - she's probably found the end of her run in commercial radio. She'd be wise to camp out in front of the region's pubcasters.

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>
 
> Arnie did have some name recognition in New Hampshire and
> still failed to deliver. Why would any stations in larger
> markets - where she is unknown - want to take a chance on
> her, given this track record? Numbers weak to non-existant.
> Hard to sell to advertisers.
>
> It's too bad. She is an excellent interviewer and does a
> good show. As a commercial talk radio manager, I'd be
> reluctant. But as a public radio station manager, I'd be
> very interested. New Hampshire, Vermont or Maine Public
> Radio (maybe all three) would be prime prospects. She can't
> sell cars but she might draw pledges. And if she does well
> regionally, maybe national distribution would follow ("Arnie
> Arnesen is made possible by a grant from the Honda Hybrid").
>

Yes, she does have name recognition in the state, but her rep is generally that of a flake. IIRC, when she ran for governor her platform was more taxes. As you might guess that didn't garner her many votes. She's clearly an intelligent, articulate person but just doesn't seem to "get it". If she were sponsored by Honda she'd probably manage to tick them off too by raving about Toyotas or something.
 
...She can always...

...open a shop stopping clocks! :) SeeYa
 
Re: ...She can always...

> ...open a shop stopping clocks! :) SeeYa
>

Your tasteless humor aside...

Arnie had a appearance on C-SPAN during the 04 Elections and wowed a lot of people. Her progressive vision and ability to speak to all political views (like Jay Diamond as well) will allow her to find a gig if she wants to break away from sleepy, still a bit too conservative (but getting better) New Hampshire.

If Severin can get an ISDN line from Sag Harbor...she can do the same for any station that may encourage her.

Ive said this but she could easily replace that horrible Helen Glover on WHJJ as she is better than the town's competition at the other stations. She could also look to do weekend work at other progressive stations.

I wonder how much she had weighed the opportunities but I honestly think there is a place for her, a good place.
 
Re: ...She can always...

> > ...open a shop stopping clocks! :) SeeYa
> >
>
> Aw c'mon, be nice. Looks don't matter--it's what's inside
> that counts (and
> besides, it's only radio, not TV...
>
> But if you must compare "looks":
>
> Laura Ingraham, conservative
>
> Arlene Violet , Liberal
>

If you must compare intelligence

Arlene violet, liberal - god knows Arlene is bright and knows a lot about many topics..

Laura Ingraham, dumb### - all she can do is call hillary bad names and i caught her last night and she's just sitting there trying to criticize Dick Durbin and Robert Byrd for not going along with the spying of your president. She's just another Fox-like spokes talker trying to act like a man (see Ann Coulter, Rita Cosby, etc) so that she can appeal to a lower intelligence bunch that finds her pretty but probably couldn't guess or reason half of what she is talking about...


She's not funny, smart, or entertaining....she can barely lick Stephanie Miller's shoes....Stephanie is a host that actually does her home work and with her team be funny too...not just nasty like Ms. Ingraham.
 
The Female Talk Host Looks Competition - Why?

> She's not funny, smart, or entertaining....she can barely
> lick Stephanie Miller's shoes....Stephanie is a host that
> actually does her home work and with her team be funny
> too...not just nasty like Ms. Ingraham.

Not that ANYONE cares, one way or the other, but Ms. Miller blows the doors off all of the above mentioned hosts in that "shallow" looks department. :D

It's not even close, or fair to the other hosts.

The funny thing is, when I hear her on WARF/1350 Akron "Radio Free Ohio", or I hear Ms. Ingraham on WHK/1420 Cleveland, my radio has no video display! Imagine that! What, listening to a talk host based on his/her talent? Wow, what a concept! :D

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>
 
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