Furthermore, unlike most of TPDude's other "targets," who deal in political/controversial talk radio, Art Laboe is an entertainer first and foremost, a disc jockey who plays music. His achievements, both commercial and charitable, are accurately detailed on his Wikipedia page. TPDude, what have you accomplished?
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Furthermore, unlike most of TPDude's other "targets," who deal in political/controversial talk radio, Art Laboe is an entertainer first and foremost, a disc jockey who plays music. His achievements, both commercial and charitable, are accurately detailed on his Wikipedia page. TPDude, what have you accomplished?
You are forgetting his pièce de résistance, referring to KFI's "dubious history of employing people of color".
I bet he doesn't even know how the NAACP treats local chapter presidents as soon as they find out they are actually white.
K. M. listing of topics may not define a troll, but certainly fits my definition of a "pot stirrer," someone who is just trying to create needless controversy rather than anything beneficial. The pattern of such contact is below what I would expect om a board of this type.
Incidentally I will be on a plane out of LAX on Sunday morning, gone for ten days, so if I don't check in from wherever until July its not that I'm upset at or avoiding anyone - just gone!
Incidentally I will be on a plane out of LAX on Sunday morning, gone for ten days, so if I don't check in from wherever until July its not that I'm upset at or avoiding anyone - just gone!
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K.M. Richards
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Tell you what, Art. I'll define "troll" as "pot stirrer" and then we can both be right!
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TeaPartyDude
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i am not a troll, i just believe that the internet is a place for the free exchange of ideas. I didn't know that was a radical and threatening concept. I wish some of these folks who are real quick to label anyone who disagrees with them as a troll, take a look at themselves and consider the possibility that they are being intolerant of diverse ideas and concepts.
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K.M. Richards
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Blah, blah, blah.
You've exchanged your ideas, they obviously were too extreme to be accepted, end of discussion.
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Thomps2525
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I, for one, agree with TPD's assertion that KFI has a "dubious history of employing people of color." I can think of only one black talk-show host who has been on KFI and that is Mother Love (JoAnna Hart).
Oh wait, I forgot about Morris O'Kelly. Okay, so there have been two. Big deal.
Oh wait, I forgot about Monique Marvez. That makes three. And if we're talking about diversity, how about Karel Bouley, Andrew Howard, David Cruz and Rabbi Mentz? And now that I think about it, what exactly is a "person of color"? Everyone has some kind of color! I have yet to see anyone who is clear and colorless.
Oh wait, I forgot about Morris O'Kelly. Okay, so there have been two. Big deal.
Oh wait, I forgot about Monique Marvez. That makes three. And if we're talking about diversity, how about Karel Bouley, Andrew Howard, David Cruz and Rabbi Mentz? And now that I think about it, what exactly is a "person of color"? Everyone has some kind of color! I have yet to see anyone who is clear and colorless.
Your participation here began with comments about Art Laboe's age and a speculation about "controlling wives" that is, to say the least, ungrounded.
Then you added a remark about appealing to prison inmates.
None of those comments added dimension to the discussion. All were blatantly adversarial and liberally doused in troll sauce.
That is right, which is why TPD's comment is so ignorant and unnecessarily inflammatory. Martin Luther King said he looked forward to the day when all people will be judged not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. Sadly, after all of these years, he and many others would prefer to still judge people by the color of their skin.
That said, I also do not believe that he is a "troll" nor do I believe the KMR is the arbiter of what ideas "are accepted". TPD has made his points, I (and others) have called him on them, as I strenuously disagree with the one in particular to which I am referring, but I am not here to say that his views are too extreme for discussion. In fact, if his views are too extreme, only robust discussion will elicit them as such.
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"Martin Luther King said he looked forward to the day when all people will be judged not by the color of their skin."
Blacks seem to be judged by their color more than anyone else. Do you ever see a newspaper headline announcing "White man elected mayor of Atlanta," "New Yorkers elect a white Governor" or "Local TV station hires a white news anchor"?
Blacks seem to be judged by their color more than anyone else. Do you ever see a newspaper headline announcing "White man elected mayor of Atlanta," "New Yorkers elect a white Governor" or "Local TV station hires a white news anchor"?
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K.M. Richards
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Somehow I knew you'd be able to sort of agree with me while not really agreeing with me.
At least I'm not the person whose post you disagreed with this time!I would also like to congratulate you on remembering that King's "I have a dream" speech included the line you quoted about being judged not by skin color but by one's character. Far too many people claim to remember the speech but if you quote them that line they do not recognize it as part of the speech.
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Thomps2525
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For the most part, blacks are no longer prevented from voting and we no longer see businesses with signs saying "Whites only" but race-related hatred and violence are much worse now than they were in the mid-1960s. If King was still alive today---he'd be 86---would he still be clinging to his dream or would he have long since given up on it? I wonder. The text and audio of King's 1963 "I have a dream" speech is on the American Rhetoric website:
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/mlkihaveadream.htm
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/mlkihaveadream.htm
As someone who went down to register voters in Newton, Mississippi, with fellow staffers from Cleveland's WJMO in the 1960's, I can tell you that there is a huge difference.
We feared for our lives, watched constantly for klukkers and worried that the people we were there to enfranchise would be victims of violence for just registering.
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1963: Four young girls die when white supremacists dynamite a Baptist church in Birmingham.
2015: Nine people die when a white supremacist opens fire at a Methodist church in Charleston.
This is not the place for a lengthy discussion of race relations. After all, this thread is about "Art Lobo." (Maybe he works with Jimmy Rabbitt, Cynthia Fox and Janine Wolf.) But it's hard for me to see that race relations in the United States have improved much since the 1960s.
2015: Nine people die when a white supremacist opens fire at a Methodist church in Charleston.
This is not the place for a lengthy discussion of race relations. After all, this thread is about "Art Lobo." (Maybe he works with Jimmy Rabbitt, Cynthia Fox and Janine Wolf.) But it's hard for me to see that race relations in the United States have improved much since the 1960s.
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K.M. Richards
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Actually, the thread is about Art "Lobo" because the poster who started the thread is visually impaired and probably has never "seen" Art Laboe's name with the correct spelling.
But your conclusion about this not being the place for the direction this thread has taken is the correct one, even though you should have come to it before post #27, Steve.
Well, I'm not exactly visually impaired; though I did know how to spell Art Laboe, I had to go to CBS radio's webpage to get the spellings of Jim Chenevey, Tom Foty, Jim Krasula, Dan Raviv, and Frank Settipani. It isn't always easy to "sound out" a name on radio. (Norman Knight??)
You're right about the direction of this thread though; it was doing OK until TPDude hijacked it.
(Of course, Art's real name is Arthur Egnoian. Like a number of Armenian-Americans in the entertainment field [Mike Connors, David Hedison, David Seville, Cher, etc.], he adopted a more "show biz" sounding name.)
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A February 2014 NPR story says that the name "Laboe" was suggested by the manager of KSAN in San Francisco, but does anyone know why? Changing "Art Egnoian" to "Art Evans" or "Art Edwards" would have made sense, but where did the name "Laboe" come from? The story also reveals what eight-year-old Art exclaimed when his family bought a radio: "Mom, the box is talking!" If he ever writes an autobiography, that should be the title!
http://www.npr.org/2014/02/09/274140942/art-laboe-and-his-devil-music-made-radio-magic
http://www.npr.org/2014/02/09/274140942/art-laboe-and-his-devil-music-made-radio-magic
At least, it's no longer as common for local police departments to sanction such activity against innocent bystanders and even join in!
I suppose it might be parallel to Jim McKay, who was born James McManus, but went to work for a station manager who was apparently obsessed with the idea of having a show called "The Real McKay." Whoever was hired for that show would have had his professional name changed to McKay; so I guess there could have been a Bob McKay or Rick McKay or something, had they hired someone else. Maybe there might have been a Joe Laboe or Dan Laboe at KSAN had they not hired Art Egnoian. But fortunately, they did. (And love "Mom, the box is talking!"
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