Article When 1990's hits became oldies

[recto101]

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This Article does reflect how KISQ-FM playlist is and other oldies stations in the USA are.

 

[1069_KIFR]

98.1 KISS FM, We play the Newest Oldies First!

 

[crainbebo]

I will always think of the '60s and '70s as oldies decades. What's next? Outkast on KJR?

-crainbebo

 

[HCochet]

I will always think of the '60s and '70s as oldies decades. What's next? Outkast on KJR?

-crainbebo

Oldies is 1950's and before. Anything 60's and newer will never be oldies. Nothing from my lifetime is or ever will be "oldies"
Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms, etc are oldies too, right? You may call it classical, but you got to admit, it's old.

 

[stewie]

98.1 KISS FM, We play the Newest Oldies First!

I like it, I think it could stick.

 

[landtuna]

Oldies is 1950's and before. Anything 60's and newer will never be oldies. Nothing from my lifetime is or ever will be "oldies"
Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms, etc are oldies too, right? You may call it classical, but you got to admit, it's old.

I assume your post was somewhat tongue-in-cheek but Oldies is both a time and type genre, not just age. Oldies are the first and second generation of RnR/Pop music (typically Top-40 stuff) from 1956-early 80's. As I understand the classifications Classical does not have a time element, it is a music type only.

 

[HCochet]

Oldies is 1950's and before. Anything 60's and newer will never be oldies. Nothing from my lifetime is or ever will be "oldies"
Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms, etc are oldies too, right? You may call it classical, but you got to admit, it's old.

I assume your post was somewhat tongue-in-cheek but Oldies is both a time and type genre, not just age. Oldies are the first and second generation of RnR/Pop music (typically Top-40 stuff) from 1956-early 80's. As I understand the classifications Classical does not have a time element, it is a music type only.

according to dictionary.com, oldie is
"a popular song, joke, movie, etc., that was in vogue at a time in the past".

So I say the further you go back in the past, the more "oldie" it is.

 

[landtuna]

according to dictionary.com, oldie is
"a popular song, joke, movie, etc., that was in vogue at a time in the past".

So I say the further you go back in the past, the more "oldie" it is.

The definition in dictionary.com is general, not music radio specific.

Ask ANY radio professional or advertising agency how they define Oldies and you will get several definitions but none of them will match the one in dictionary.com.

Pop radio music genres older than Oldies (1956) are defined as Standards, Swing, Big Band or Old Time Radio (sometimes referred to as "Music of Your Life"). Hope I haven't missed anybody.

 

[Ai4i]

As I understand the classifications Classical does not have a time element, it is a music type only.

The Classical Period is said to go from approximately 1750 to 1820, between the Baroque Period and the Romantic Period.
Purists affix the name Serious Music to what we mortals commonly refer to as classical music.
Q2 plays only (mostly?) living composers: Philip Glass, Steve Reich, Karl Jenkins, and others.
Some twentieth century music can move the listener to tears with pure simplicity.

 

[landtuna]

As I understand the classifications Classical does not have a time element, it is a music type only.

The Classical Period is said to go from approximately 1750 to 1820, between the Baroque Period and the Romantic Period.
Purists affix the name Serious Music to what we mortals commonly refer to as classical music.
Q2 plays only (mostly?) living composers: Philip Glass, Steve Reich, Karl Jenkins, and others.
Some twentieth century music can move the listener to tears with pure simplicity.

I'm not any sort of expert but the musical (academic) definition of Classical might differ from the radio (advertising agency) definition.

 

[crainbebo]

according to dictionary.com, oldie is
"a popular song, joke, movie, etc., that was in vogue at a time in the past".

So I say the further you go back in the past, the more "oldie" it is.

Pop radio music genres older than Oldies (1956) are defined as Standards, Swing, Big Band or Old Time Radio (sometimes referred to as "Music of Your Life"). Hope I haven't missed anybody.

I agree with landtuna. Oldies stations, even if they are deeper with the music [ala KMCQ several months ago], would probably never play Moonlight Serenade by Glenn Miller, because that fits Big Band/Swing [it's '40s music]. But, In a Gadda Da Vida by Iron Butterfly counts as oldies. Same with all that overplayed Beatles and Rolling Stones.

-crainbebo

 

[LKellerIII]

I will always think of the '60s and '70s as oldies decades. What's next? Outkast on KJR?

-crainbebo

Oldies is 1950's and before. Anything 60's and newer will never be oldies. Nothing from my lifetime is or ever will be "oldies"
Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms, etc are oldies too, right? You may call it classical, but you got to admit, it's old.

I'm also assuming your tongue is in your cheek-but when we baby boomers lament the disappearance of the music we grew up with (mid 50s thru mid 70s), we need to remember that these songs are between 35 and 55 years old. When we grew up with Top 40 AM radio, they'd play Oldies about every 3rd or 4th song, but "oldies" then ("goldens") meant no more than 10 years old. You wouldn't have heard "Ain't She Sweet"- a hit from the mid 30s - played on 610/KFRC or KYA in the mid 60s, and that song would have been only about 30 years old at the time.

 

[crainbebo]

Well yes, correct. Stations like WLS, WABC, KJR, KHJ, etc. never would play late 30s Tommy Dorsey big band, if there was an older hit it was usually Elvis or Ricky Nelson.

Nowadays, I still think 1960-1980 as oldies decades. I'm not ready for Akon, Outkast or Britney Spears to be on KJR in 2030...

-crainbebo

 

[Goldilocks94941]

Well yes, correct. Stations like WLS, WABC, KJR, KHJ, etc. never would play late 30s Tommy Dorsey big band

Yeah, but CKLW did! Well, after they gave up on the top 40/pop format, running big band and standards for a few years, before they became the third tier talk format they run now out of Windsor/Detroit. Sounded good, too.

As i see it, there are several typs of pop/rock oldies, just as there are several genres withing "classical" music. There are "good time oldies," like all the Trader Joe's stores in Seattle like to blast, to give you that upbeat "tailgate party" atmosphere (which I find fatiguing). Then there are "golden oldies" from the earliest years of rock n roll, before "Rock" turned into RawK! in the 1970s. And there are "favorites" that remind you of another time and place when you first heard the songs - which would probably, as I calculate it, mid 70s thru mid 90s. What Seattle's KMCQ did for a year before getting "advised" on eliminating most of their playlist for the same menu items as every other fast foot outlet on the dial. But almost no one playing anything off of those albums we all had, or borrowed, when we got our first stereos. Would be nice to hear some Carole King, Jackson Browne, Earth Wind and Fire, Eagles, Linda Ronstadt "secondary" album tracks, mixed into the format in the evenings and on weekends.

Trying to classify pop music by decade, as the satellite radio channels try to do, seems like pushing music into categories that aren't always about the music and what segues well, but about something else. I think the big changes in pop music often came around the middle of the decades, with the Beatles in 1962 being a bit earlier than the changed sounds we heard by the mid 70s or mid 80s. A lot of the mid 50s-early 60s "race music" is fun to listen to, especially for what was often the "original" version of a pop hit covered by a white act that most of America never got to hear. But, for me, mid 90s to today seems to have been paved over musically by a lot of all-flash but no talent or lyrics, and few voices worth getting excited about. Guess I'm getting to be an oldie now, too.