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Another one of the good guys just couldn't take it any longer.
Look out Bloomington.
After nearly nine years as VP/GM with Artistic Media Partners in Bloomington, Sandy Zehr exits the station. AMP CEO Arthur Angotti is handling Zehr's duties.
Look out Bloomington.
After nearly nine years as VP/GM with Artistic Media Partners in Bloomington, Sandy Zehr exits the station. AMP CEO Arthur Angotti is handling Zehr's duties.
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midwestradioman
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So now the only place that the AMP guys havent messed up is headed for disaster. Junior has no idea what he is doing. Sandy was a good man and the right leader for that cluster. Looks like Art Sr. will have to start managing a market, as they have driven away any and all real broadcasters. What a joke. Pray for a recovering economy so that AMP can sell their properties andthe industry will improve as they leave it.
Can't wait to see Terrestrial's justification on the Bloomington situation.
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gmradio
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Will Artie have the time? maybe is he was on here less and and watching his stations more ............
"That's why you hire good people, not children who just want to play radio."
Easy to say. Where do you find these "good people?"
What if you are 100 miles from nowhere, and low budget, and "qualified people" are few and far between.
Automation (done right - with local stuff, weather, etc) works better and cheaper than your "good people."
Easy to say. Where do you find these "good people?"
What if you are 100 miles from nowhere, and low budget, and "qualified people" are few and far between.
Automation (done right - with local stuff, weather, etc) works better and cheaper than your "good people."
A good , solid manager hire good solid people
if they are lazy, horrible jocks or otherwise
did you hire them cheap or for quality?
it's a management problem....period !! and perhaps its a trikle down from ownership
if they are lazy, horrible jocks or otherwise
did you hire them cheap or for quality?
it's a management problem....period !! and perhaps its a trikle down from ownership
flyondawall said:
Let the congregation say, "Amen"!
Sorry, not from this bench.
Unless you leave the position vacant for ages, its also a function of who is available, and your location, the available pay and the size of your market.
Reality check; This isn't Chicago. Not many perople want to live/work in Podunk for low pay. If the station can't generate enough, you are stuck, regardless of good/bad ownership/management. Look at the specificity and length of the list of rules Randy Michaels has to lay down at wgn - where the airstaff makes great money and the station is tops.
That's why (especially satellite done properly) automation wins.
Unless you leave the position vacant for ages, its also a function of who is available, and your location, the available pay and the size of your market.
Reality check; This isn't Chicago. Not many perople want to live/work in Podunk for low pay. If the station can't generate enough, you are stuck, regardless of good/bad ownership/management. Look at the specificity and length of the list of rules Randy Michaels has to lay down at wgn - where the airstaff makes great money and the station is tops.
That's why (especially satellite done properly) automation wins.
I'm really entertained by this thread.
Normally, everyone on R-I likes to pound on CC, Cumulus, and Citadel. They're all cheap, greedy, and stupid. But out in the boonies, where small local companies rule, the complainers pick on the little guys. I think someone said that Cumulus would be an improvement!
Here's the truth: It sucks working for someone else. Regardless of the size of the employer. Radio folks don't like to be told what to do. I learned that a long time ago. Unfortunately, most radio people have no money, so they are destined to work for somebody else. It's like God has a sense of humor. He gave the Arabs all the oil, and he gave all the money to greedy mizers. And all the radio people end up working for greedy mizers. You get rid of all the big companies, and you'll be left with companies like this. The cockroaches will survive the atom bomb. So there you have it.
Normally, everyone on R-I likes to pound on CC, Cumulus, and Citadel. They're all cheap, greedy, and stupid. But out in the boonies, where small local companies rule, the complainers pick on the little guys. I think someone said that Cumulus would be an improvement!
Here's the truth: It sucks working for someone else. Regardless of the size of the employer. Radio folks don't like to be told what to do. I learned that a long time ago. Unfortunately, most radio people have no money, so they are destined to work for somebody else. It's like God has a sense of humor. He gave the Arabs all the oil, and he gave all the money to greedy mizers. And all the radio people end up working for greedy mizers. You get rid of all the big companies, and you'll be left with companies like this. The cockroaches will survive the atom bomb. So there you have it.
Does everyone who participates here realize a radio station is a business - like a c-store, like a big box, like an airline, like a hotel, like... ?
There's so much money that comes in [revenue], and expense that goes out.
If everyone does their respective job, everyone has a job they enjoy. If the station's content is compelling enough, advertisers want to be a part of it. Everyone gets paid; everyone enjoys their industry choice.
If some part of the business doesn't function all suffer - airline doesn't sell enough seats, flights are cancelled, people lose their jobs, and so on. If the business community doesn't see value in your radio property as an advertising vehicle, people lose their jobs.
You can claim companies are villians - owners are villians - point your middle finger at any employer you want. More than all the corporate crap that can roll downhill, folks on the front line determine the success of a radio station. If local employees cannot deliver content competing enough to draw advertisers, companies look to other sources. If sales staffs suck at helping advertisers be successful using our product, people lose their jobs. If local management doesn't provide vision, direction, training, help to the staff, the business bleeds money and people lose their jobs. And ultimately, the owner holds all the bills in their hands that have to be paid.
Some here suggest it sucks to have to work for someone else. I've done the "owner thing" once, and was damn glad some other fool was willing to pay us to get out of the ownership side of small market radio. I'm happy to work for a big company, with health benefits, a 401k, and very little personal risk. It is very stressful to have your employee's financial lives in your hands - its even more stressful to have all the bills in your hands at the end of the day, with a business that's failing, while your folks can just walk away at the end of the day [frustrated or not] and not have any further responsibility for it.
There's so much money that comes in [revenue], and expense that goes out.
If everyone does their respective job, everyone has a job they enjoy. If the station's content is compelling enough, advertisers want to be a part of it. Everyone gets paid; everyone enjoys their industry choice.
If some part of the business doesn't function all suffer - airline doesn't sell enough seats, flights are cancelled, people lose their jobs, and so on. If the business community doesn't see value in your radio property as an advertising vehicle, people lose their jobs.
You can claim companies are villians - owners are villians - point your middle finger at any employer you want. More than all the corporate crap that can roll downhill, folks on the front line determine the success of a radio station. If local employees cannot deliver content competing enough to draw advertisers, companies look to other sources. If sales staffs suck at helping advertisers be successful using our product, people lose their jobs. If local management doesn't provide vision, direction, training, help to the staff, the business bleeds money and people lose their jobs. And ultimately, the owner holds all the bills in their hands that have to be paid.
Some here suggest it sucks to have to work for someone else. I've done the "owner thing" once, and was damn glad some other fool was willing to pay us to get out of the ownership side of small market radio. I'm happy to work for a big company, with health benefits, a 401k, and very little personal risk. It is very stressful to have your employee's financial lives in your hands - its even more stressful to have all the bills in your hands at the end of the day, with a business that's failing, while your folks can just walk away at the end of the day [frustrated or not] and not have any further responsibility for it.
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midwestradioman
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The point being missed here is that Artistic is a BAD radio company. Good radio companies actually have a strategic plan. When you change the GM and GSM position constantly, is it that all those broadcasters were clods? Where is AMP's responsibility for poor hiring--or more importantly, where is AMP allowing the people they hire to use their experience and get the job done????? C-stores run better than this--there is enormous cost involved in turnover, particularly management turnover. The Angoddis are not real radio people. They have Art who knows less about radio than most of us know about brain surgery. Then there is junior who could learn--but doesn't have the stones to stand up and tell his father to butt out. The problem is exacerbated by this lack of cohesiveness and causes key people to quit or get frustrated and speak up. Neither of those choices ends well for the employee---then the staff suffers because of the turnover and cost cutting occurs. That means other jobs are lost because AMP owners can't get it right. Art & junior need to get out of the radio business--period!
midwestradioman said:
Here's a very simple fact: There is nothing in the FCC rules & regs that set any radio experience for licensees. Dumb rich people with big egos abound. That's just how it is. Go to the NAB convention some year and listen to the conversations. And it's just going to get worse.
Here's what I've learned: Do your homework before taking a job at a station that seems to have a revolving door. Remember that bosses are like spouses: You're not going to change them, so don't try to. And always remember who the boss is. The boss is the guy with the money. If there are bad owners where you live, and you want to work in radio: Move. If you wait for the bad owner to leave, you'll be waiting a long time.
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midwestradioman
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You are missing the larger point. There are excellent owners out there and you can find them. The fact that these are bad owners and they aren't going to leave is wrong--eventually they will sell when they can find the right multiple and the industry will be better served.
My concern was for the cavalcade of good talent that went through AMP and got spit out by them. Why in the world would you invest in a major research project and then ignore the results? That's AMP--enough said!
My concern was for the cavalcade of good talent that went through AMP and got spit out by them. Why in the world would you invest in a major research project and then ignore the results? That's AMP--enough said!
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