I have been impressed with Jeff Munn's call of the ASU women's basketball team this season. However, listening to Monday's game was painful. It was an ESPN national cablecast, so all the timeouts were longer than usual and halftime took forever (probably for a SportsCenter update). Jeff had to fill all the breaks for which the control room did not have spots. I cannot believe the school or station did not find a color person for the tournament. Especially since KMVP is the home of the Mercury, bringing in a player from the WNBA who likely also played in the NCAA madness would have been a good idea. Perhaps the Mercury and ASU women are less important to KMVP than promoting KTAR? I have never heard one station spend so much time pushing another station!
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ASU women's basketball & KMVP
- Thread starter 50kguy
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50kguy said:
I didn't think TMISU were using 860 for anything other than the KTAR-promo barker and duplicating the local shows that are on 620. That's the whole idea - to promote the sports-programming move from 860 to 620.
They're not even using it for D'backs games when there's a Suns conflict; they're using 92.3 for that, although I think 98.7 would be a better choice. They could have done the same for the ASU game last night as well.
I wonder what they'll do come October when they could (at least in theory) have a three-way conflict with the D'backs hopefully in the post-season, the Cards (Sunday) or ASU (Saturday), and Suns pre-season games all goinig on potentially at once.
Beau Duran said:
It's only when there's a conflict with the Suns or Cards. IIRC, both teams get priority on 620 by contract (not sure about ASU football) unless the D'backs are in the postseason. The D'backs have been bumped to 860 in the past when there's been a conflict (as have the Suns' preseason games) but they were listed as being on 92.3 this past Sunday when they conflicted with the Suns game.
If what I've heard is correct, this is the pecking order on 620:
Priority #1: Cards football. On 620 no matter what (simulcast on 620 & 860 last year).
Priority #2: Suns regular-season and post-season basketball. Bumped only for the Cards (a rarity in any case).
Priority #3: Diamondbacks regular-season and post-season baseball. Bumped for the Cards & Suns.
Priority #4: ASU football. Can be bumped in favor of the D'backs (no conflict with the Cards or Suns).
Preseason D'backs and Suns games will get bumped to 92.3 if another team is playing a game that counts. Not sure about where ASU women's hoops (on 860 last night), the Mercury, or the Rattlers fit in this scheme, especially if TMISU sell or shut down KMVP.
If I'm wrong, someone please set the record straight, but the above is what I've heard.
KeithE4 said:
Keith, did this pecking order change recently and is it posted anywhere on the KT'R
website(s)? And have TMISU indeed stated that Snooze 92/3 is the spill frequency
for conflicts/overlaps? This would tend to put them in a lie as far as their promos go
(as you pointed out above) which led us all to believe the important news of the day
--and the even more important musings of McBland ;D--would not be compromised
by sports PBP.
I had thought the pecking order was always:
1. Suns
2. D'Backs
3. Cards then ASU or vice-versa
The reasoning behind this is that the Suns and D'Backs have been on KT'R for a
number of years, from when Jerry called the shots and no doubt had something
written into the contracts. That said, how would a "Bidwill-come-lately" unseat
the incumbents and go to the head of the line? Wasn't ASU even on board before
the outfit masquerading as an NFL team signed up with Sports Parking Lot/Siberia
620/860?
oldiesfan6479 said:
No, it's strictly anectotal, but also based on which team's been bumped in the past. If ASU played football, the D'backs got bumped. Same went with the Cards last year other than preseason games, which were carried strictly on 860. If the D'backs were in the post-season and the Suns were playing a pre-season game at the same time, the Suns ended up on 860. In March, the D'backs get bumped like they did two days ago.
I didn't listen to the game, but KTAR did say that the D'backs would be on 92.3 on Sunday. We'll see if or how long that continues now that the Suns are headed to the playoffs and the D'backs' regular season is starting.
Jerry Colangelo's no longer part of the Phoenix sports scene, except as the figurehead "Chairman of the Board" of the Suns. His day as the 800-pound gorilla of Phoenix sports is over. Ken Kendrick (D'backs) & Robert Sarver (Suns) don't have the pull that Jerry had over KTAR.
The Bidwills have much more clout than most people realize - hard to believe considering their total ineptitude in running a football team. They've been known to break broadcast contracts if they don't like what's going out over the air, including their previous deal with TMISU when they owned AM 740 & FM 96.9, moving to KDUS.
Also, he's not listed in the company roster, but morning man Ron Wolfley has a part-time role with the team - he's mentioned it but I forget exactly what it is. If that's not a conflict of interest, I don't know what is, but it gives me the impression that the Cards are top priority on KTAR. The only way I see the Cards get bounced to 92.3 or elsewhere would be if their game conflicts with the baseball playoffs or World Series and the D'backs are playing.
Like I said, all I'm saying here is anecdotal, and this season will tell. KTAR has too many team committments to not keep 860 going if they're serious about keeping sports off of 92.3 (their actions so far are saying otherwise). Between now and August, they have to find room for the D'backs, Suns, Mercury, & Rattlers - so many teams, so few frequencies to put them on.
KTAR has too many team committments to not keep 860 going if they're serious about keeping sports off of 92.3 (their actions so far are saying otherwise). Between now and August, they have to find room for the D'backs, Suns, Mercury, & Rattlers - so many teams, so few frequencies to put them on.
That's what we've questioned since TMISU announced the creation of Sports Parking Lot 6~Twenty. They have too many teams, too many games, too many conflicts to run everything on 6~Twenty. So why kill 8~Sixty? Why tell their FM listeners they won't hear sports on News 92~Three, where Hip-Hop used to live? The Nurse and I'd rather hear a Suns, D'backs, Cards or SunDevil Football game on 92~Three than some of the crap they run on the weekends. Sorry Luvable 1, but TMISU have only theyselves to blame for this conumdrum!
That's what we've questioned since TMISU announced the creation of Sports Parking Lot 6~Twenty. They have too many teams, too many games, too many conflicts to run everything on 6~Twenty. So why kill 8~Sixty? Why tell their FM listeners they won't hear sports on News 92~Three, where Hip-Hop used to live? The Nurse and I'd rather hear a Suns, D'backs, Cards or SunDevil Football game on 92~Three than some of the crap they run on the weekends. Sorry Luvable 1, but TMISU have only theyselves to blame for this conumdrum!
Dr. Akbar said:
Check out the official explanation from KTAR's Program Director, the link courtesy of the Joe Crummy thread elseswhere on this board. Sports will be on 92.3 at least while the Suns and D'backs are both playing. No mention of which team gets 92.3 (I'm guessing it'll be the D'backs), or what they'll do about the Mercury or Rattlers currently or when the Sun Devils and Cards start this fall.
Link: Russ Hill's Blog
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Radioguy2006
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I got a idea for Bonneville International Trade KMVP 860 AM with Entravision Communications for KNLZ 103.5 FM Spanish station to add sports if the Suns, Diamondbacks and Cardinals get bump. Move KMVP call letters to 103.5 FM and KNLZ call letters and format to 860 AM. This idea might work.
Radioguy2006 said:
Yeah... trade an FM signal for a crappy at best AM signal that comes with no transmitter site. [EDIT]
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Radioguy2006
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I got another idea Bonneville buy KLVA 105.5 FM from K-LOVE and flip it for Polish Talk and Music and add bumped Suns, Diamondbacks and Cardinals from KTAR.
Thank God. I knew this guy was a little too retarded to really be retarded.
This evening (Thursday), Sports Parking Lot 620 has a Suns game and
Snooze 92/3 has--as speculated--a conflicting D'Backs spring training game.
So what's on Sports Siberia 860? Loop-de-loop...loop-de-loop... ;D
Snooze 92/3 has--as speculated--a conflicting D'Backs spring training game.
So what's on Sports Siberia 860? Loop-de-loop...loop-de-loop... ;D
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