KIIS FM Moves AT40 to Sunday 9am-1pm from 8am-noon
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Why did they move it up an hour?
maybe in future move another nationwide show to morning to fill the gap keep u posted
One of the reasons major market stations started asking for an abbreviated countdown show of 20 to 30 songs is that CHR stations don't play 40 currents any longer. Most play something in the 20 to 25 range including new songs and they fill with plenty of recurrents and very recent gold.
Decades ago Clifton said that there were never more than about 17 true hits at any time. Research has pretty much proven this. So a Top 40 countdown would be playing about 15 to 20 stiffs.
KIIS moved the Dees show since Dees is a key to iHeart and that particular station.
Listening to the old 80s countdowns, in various permutations, holy heck were there some real stiffs in those. Once in a while one comes up with very few, but yikes. It was bad even then to work through 40 songs. It’s only gotten more pronounced.
I listen to the 80s and 70s countdowns on SiriusXM just about every week. I enjoy hearing the "other" songs that show up on the lists instead of the same tired playlist of 1000 songs that are otherwise on each channel. That is what gives it interest.
BTW, there is no proof that Jon Bon Jovi owns the 80's on 8 channel; it just seems that way.
And now, on with the countdown.
Interest is one way to put it. Best left forgotten is another. 🤣😂🤣😂
David, it was actually Buzz Bennett, and it was 7 true hits, not 17. Everything else is either a former hit past its peak, or a song that hasn’t hit its peak yet, and may or may not be one of the seven at some point in the future.
However, that was during the era when Bennett's nickname was 24/7 truthful, and he was dealing either in hyperbole or plain nonsense.
Clifton made the statement several times in the later 70's when I heard him at one of the Claude Hall Billboard conferences and we believed it to be based on his callout, which he and several others (PDs at KRIZ, Todd Wallace and KCBQ, McCoy) had pioneered in that era. This was when Clifton was doing a "Top 20" format in Miami against Tanner's Y-100... which ended when the station, WMJX, lost its license.
What Clifton was getting was the early indication that a lot of songs were actually what we now call "recurrents" because they were still liked but also got "played to much on the radio" responses.
What callout showed is that there were, in Top 40, about 3 to 5 powers at any time, and around 12 to 13 solid songs that were not getting burn.
I remember when Jon Coleman installed computerized callout for us at Metroplex Miami (WHTT and WHYI) in 1980, we could see historical tracking of burn vs. like, and realized that recurrents could be predicted several weeks before it was necessary to slow them down to a separate rotation. We also found that songs that went recurrent often rested enough to come back as currents... some did that several times.
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